Tier List (Singles and Doubles)

[-Ken-]

I dunno, 6th Court just seems like a bunch of some of the toughest middle schoolers in the wrong place. Don't sleep on 'em. Even though they're 6th court, I feel that the members are 2nd courth-leveled. But that's just me. I mean, come on; Yukimura, Fuji, Oshitari Yushi? LolStoppppp.

I can agree with Yukimura and Fuji. But Oshitari? He almost lost to Momoshiro pre-camp. And Momoshiro pre-camp is at best mid tier. I feel that match really undermine Oshitari as genius of Hyotei.

[Brandnewkid]

I can agree with Yukimura and Fuji. But Oshitari? He almost lost to Momoshiro pre-camp.

What's your point? Momo's a beast, especially with his own Insight and mind games.

[-Ken-]

What's your point? Momo's a beast, especially with his own Insight and mind games.

6th court is a joke compare to BJB? They're a joke compare to the real 2nd court (BJB) right now. I hardly can take them seriously anymore. Most top-tier MS player are in 3rd court or 2nd court. The only player who'll post a challenge is Yukimura and Fuji.

Because he doesn't have any upgrade so far yet, Fuji will get stomped hard by both Kintarou and Sanada. I can already see debate of how those two can > him pre-camp training. And with camp training, Fuji don't really stand a chance. Until his next match and probably new counter, at the very least.


And it's most likely Echizen vs Yukimura in singles 1? Do you want to go over that?

And the rest the of 6th court is now fodder until we saw any further upgrade from them. Momoshiro aren't even best 3rd player, but he already can stomped Oshitari.

6th court right now is simply full of joke. Until further upgrade. The only way they'll beat BJB is that they have to put Yukimura in Singles 2 and 3 and had to hope for the best.

The characters that worth anything at all from 6th court right now is just Yukimura and Fuji. And maybe Yagyuu. I'm sorry, but not Oshitari. Momoshiro is a beast, but he's no where near 3rd court level, much less 2nd court, at the beginning of this series. And Oshitari is around his skill level. We saw people who are stronger than Momoshiro at the beginning of the series had trouble with 3rd court.

And that doesn't mean

6th Court just seems like a bunch of some of the toughest middle schoolers in the wrong place

That just means 6th court had very few strong MS, and not a bunch. And that a simple 1 on 1 shuffle match would fix it. 6th as a whole isn't worth much at all.

[Brandnewkid]

6th court is a joke compare to BJB?

When did I say this?

They're a joke compare to the real 2nd court (BJB) right now. I hardly can take them seriously anymore. Most top-tier MS player are in 3rd court or 2nd court. The only player who'll post a challenge is Yukimura and Fuji.

Cool opinion.

Because he doesn't have any upgrade so far yet, Fuji will get stomped by both Kintarou and Sanada. And Echizen vs Yukimura in singles 1? Do you want to go over that?

And the rest the of 6th court is now fodder until we saw any further upgrade from them. Momoshiro aren't even best 3rd player, but he already can stomped Oshitari.

6th court right now is simply full of joke. Until further upgrade. The only way they'll beat BJB is that they have to put Yukimura in Singles 2 and 3 and had to hope for the best.

The characters that worth anything at all from 6th court right now is just Yukimura and Fuji. And maybe Yagyuu. I'm sorry, but not Oshitari. Momoshiro is a beast, but he's no where near 3rd court level, much less 2nd court, at the beginning of this series. And Oshitari is around his skill level. We saw people who are stronger than Momoshiro at the beginning of the series had trouble with 3rd court.

And that doesn't mean



That just means 6th court had very few strong MS, and not a bunch. And that a simple 1 on 1 shuffle match would fix it. 6th as a whole isn't worth much at all.

O.

[-Ken-]

When did I say this?

You say you think they are on 2nd court level. And guess who's the 2nd court right now? 3th and 4th, maybe. No where near 2nd court.

Cool opinion.

Yo man. Have you know Prince of Tennis have a sequel? And in it, a lot of players now become fodder. Yukimura, Fuji, and MAYBE Yagyuu is in the 6th court is now pretty much fodder. And I give you these three because they are high tier in the original version. Cool opinion indeed. And do you want me to tell you how the losers, including ex-mid tier like Momoshiro, Kawamura, Inui, and Kabaji, Kenya manage to beat someone who does a complete stomped of players who can beat ex-high tier of original Prince of Tennis (Shiraishi, Tachibana, Chitose)? Here's some point before you get down on me, though.

-Tachibana and Chitose is on here because pre Beast Syncho, they lost horribly. And pre-Beast Syncho is where they are at the end of the original plot.
-Shiraishi is on here because pre Golden Arm taken off, he lost horribly, and that's where he is at the end of the original plot, too.

Yeah, it's totally my opinion and not shown in the story at all.

[Kaoz]

I see.
Do you think the Court system has even the slightest bit of significance in the current storyline right now?
I would like to see some Team Shuffles of the lower fodder, I loved the old concept in PoT where we would get all 7 members playing a match, fodder or not.
Would like to see the improvement of many characters.

At this very moment during the G10 matches, no, unless it was used to determine the members of the 2nd String or something and Akaya meant that they were in high courts instead of having a good win percentage. Although I'd still go with the percentage thing for the time being until Vol 10.5 confirms anything.

[Airgrimes]

I dunno, 6th Court just seems like a bunch of some of the toughest middle schoolers in the wrong place. Don't sleep on 'em. Even though they're 6th court, I feel that the members are 2nd courth-leveled. But that's just me. I mean, come on; Yukimura, Fuji, Oshitari Yushi? LolStoppppp.

Yukimura is long-gone from their Court at this point.

At this very moment during the G10 matches, no, unless it was used to determine the members of the 2nd String or something and Akaya meant that they were in high courts instead of having a good win percentage. Although I'd still go with the percentage thing for the time being until Vol 10.5 confirms anything.

Sure, although I can feel it will be a long wait hahaa.

Yo man. Have you know Prince of Tennis have a sequel? And in it, a lot of players now become fodder. Yukimura, Fuji, and MAYBE Yagyuu is in the 6th court is now pretty much fodder.

Is assumptions what we are into?
As Yukimura and Fuji are the 4th and 1st most popular characters right now I wouldnt just say that. Yuki's improvement is extremely dangerous as it means once the opponent enters Yips the match is effectively over unlike before where Aura's could break from it. Fuji might be pathetic at this moment but its not possible for a series' most popular character to become fodder.

-Shiraishi is on here because pre Golden Arm taken off, he lost horribly, and that's where he is at the end of the original plot, too.

Yeah, it's totally my opinion and not shown in the story at all.

oh crap, Shiraishi lost? The manga you read is not written by Konomi Takeshi but whom?
You do know that once the Gauntlet came off the match flipped around and they won.

6th court is a joke compare to BJB? They're a joke compare to the real 2nd court (BJB) right now. I hardly can take them seriously anymore. Most top-tier MS player are in 3rd court or 2nd court. The only player who'll post a challenge is Yukimura and Fuji.

this isnt your fault but you two should have read that I said at the point where Yukimura already moved on.

Because he doesn't have any upgrade so far yet, Fuji will get stomped hard by both Kintarou and Sanada. I can already see debate of how those two can > him pre-camp training. And with camp training, Fuji don't really stand a chance. Until his next match and probably new counter, at the very least.

Agreed.

6th court right now is simply full of joke. Until further upgrade. The only way they'll beat BJB is that they have to put Yukimura in Singles 2 and 3 and had to hope for the best.

Considerin Yuki can curbstomp Tooyama and Tooyama cant break outta yips its over for that match.

The characters that worth anything at all from 6th court right now is just Yukimura and Fuji. And maybe Yagyuu. I'm sorry, but not Oshitari. Momoshiro is a beast, but he's no where near 3rd court level, much less 2nd court, at the beginning of this series. And Oshitari is around his skill level. We saw people who are stronger than Momoshiro at the beginning of the series had trouble with 3rd court.

Dont say worth ''anything'' Yuki is still amongst the best MSers without a doubt.
Fuji is also in the top tier.
Oshitari > Nationals!Momoshiro fairly confidently. 6 games straight although Momo incorrectly held back.
Who in 3rd Court Singles were above Momoshiro? Nakagauchi? Maybe.
But Yamato didnt get stopped by the NO.s 11-19 and with GUYU I dont think many of them would beat him besides Date and Fuwa. Yamato was quite awesome so 3rd Court arent a good example.
Matsudaira Chikahiko is another maybe but im open for discussion.

That just means 6th court had very few strong MS, and not a bunch. And that a simple 1 on 1 shuffle match would fix it. 6th as a whole isn't worth much at all.

6th were pretty good. They ARE the winners so if we took those that they specifically defeated to get there and had a rematch, I think 6th would win.

[-Ken-]

Is assumptions what we are into?
As Yukimura and Fuji are the 4th and 1st most popular characters right now I wouldnt just say that. Yuki's improvement is extremely dangerous as it means once the opponent enters Yips the match is effectively over unlike before where Aura's could break from it. Fuji might be pathetic at this moment but its not possible for a series' most popular character to become fodder.

That's actually a typo. I mean, everyone from 6th court beside those characters is pretty now fodder. I didn't look over it when I typed that, sorry.

oh crap, Shiraishi lost? The manga you read is not written by Konomi Takeshi but whom?
You do know that once the Gauntlet came off the match flipped around and they won.

Yeah, that's when the Gauntlet came off. But before Gauntlet, he got owned. And in PoT, he got the Gauntlet on. That's what I mean by "that's where he is at the end of the original plot"

I'm probably not clear on that enough.

I'm using him as example because in the original PoT, he was one of the high tier characters. And before Gauntlet upgrade, which is SPoT upgrade, that is where Shiraishi is. He ranked pretty highly in a lot of people tier ranking before SPoT started, if my memory served me right. But he, as that characters with high tier placement, got owned completely by 3rd court. This doesn't have anything to do with what happen after he take the Gauntlet off. Because once he take the Gauntlet off, he regained his position as high tier in SPoT.

I'm just using him to say that A LOT of people on 6th court, beside Yukimura, Fuji, and Yagyuu, are now fodder. Unless people put anyone else from the 6th court higher than national Shiraishi. Because none of them get any upgrade yet.

So, here's in an easy way to understand.

3rd court=fodder, got completely stomp by 1st stringer
National Shiraishi=Fodder, got owned by 3rd court
Without Gauntlet Shiraishi= NOT Fodder, since he also owned the 3rd court, his ranking right now is unknown.
Anyone else below National Shiraishi so far= Total fodder, even more fodder than 3rd court. Until they are shown to have some upgrade that can make them possibly surpass Shiraishi

Considerin Yuki can curbstomp Tooyama and Tooyama cant break outta yips its over for that match.

One win from putting the court strongest players in the weaker spot to get the win is telling the OVERALL court is as weak as heck. Which my point is that

Even though they're 6th court, I feel that the members are 2nd courth-leveled.

Is just pure wrong.

Dont say worth ''anything'' Yuki is still amongst the best MSers without a doubt.
Fuji is also in the top tier.

Hmm? Here.

The characters that worth anything at all from 6th court right now is just Yukimura and Fuji. And maybe Yagyuu.

So... I agree?

Oshitari > Nationals!Momoshiro fairly confidently. 6 games straight although Momo incorrectly held back.

They are about equal at most. If they play again, even back then, Oshitari wouldn't have won 6-0.

Momoshiro only started using Jack Knife in the last game (1st point of last game)

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/princ...s/c276/17.html

But just from that one game… guess what

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/prince_of_tennis/c278//

Momoshiro haven't seen to used power play before that, at all. One power game=right hand all numb.

But there's several factors in the match, so I'm saying they're about equal.

[Airgrimes]

That's actually a typo. I mean, everyone from 6th court beside those characters is pretty now fodder. I didn't look over it when I typed that, sorry.

Glad we agree

Yeah, that's when the Gauntlet came off. But before Gauntlet, he got owned. And in PoT, he got the Gauntlet on. That's what I mean by "that's where he is at the end of the original plot"

I'm probably not clear on that enough.

You shouldve said so lol. I was nervous thinking you geuinely thought Shiraishi/Kirihara lost.

 
I'm using him as example because in the original PoT, he was one of the high tier characters. And before Gauntlet upgrade, which is SPoT upgrade, that is where Shiraishi is. He ranked pretty highly in a lot of people tier ranking before SPoT started, if my memory served me right. But he, as that characters with high tier placement, got owned completely by 3rd court. This doesn't have anything to do with what happen after he take the Gauntlet off. Because once he take the Gauntlet off, he regained his position as high tier in SPoT.

This I totally agree with but its not too bad as Matsudaira and Miyako were owned by Hakamada and Date respectively who are totally awesome. So when you think about it, Date and Hakamada wiping Matsudaira and Miyako who overpowered Shiraishi/Kirihara is a little bit acceptable.

And yeah, Shiraishi is likely to be thrown into the fodder can.

 
I'm just using him to say that A LOT of people on 6th court, beside Yukimura, Fuji, and Yagyuu, are now fodder. Unless people put anyone else from the 6th court higher than national Shiraishi. Because none of them get any upgrade yet.

That's a good observation. 6th Court have been literally thrown away besides Yuki right now. Hoping for a lot from Marui who should be strong Singles-wise.

 
So, here's in an easy way to understand.

3rd court=fodder, got completely stomp by 1st stringer
National Shiraishi=Fodder, got owned by 3rd court
Without Gauntlet Shiraishi= NOT Fodder, since he also owned the 3rd court, his ranking right now is unknown.
Anyone else below National Shiraishi so far= Total fodder, even more fodder than 3rd court. Until they are shown to have some upgrade that can make them possibly surpass Shiraishi

Fair enough for now.

 
One win from putting the court strongest players in the weaker spot to get the win is telling the OVERALL court is as weak as heck. Which my point is that

 
Is just pure wrong.

Not totally impossible

Look at this:

S3 Oshitari. Y VS Nakagauchi
D2 Kikumaru/Chinen/Sengoku/Amane VS Miyako/Matsudaira
S2 Yagyuu VS Yamato
D1 Marui/Hirakoba VS Washio/Suzuki
S1 Fuji. S VS Irie

I agree it doesnt look good for them at all.

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@Ken I didnt actually know Momo only went power in the last game, if so then yeah Nationals!Oshirari = Nationals!Momoshiro which is disappointing.

Also to everybody I believe Hirakoba > Marui on our tier ranking.

Tightrope Walking and Iron Pole shot should be rendered not so good specifically due to Hirakoba's efficency with Shukuchiho.

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Any problems with our current tier?

God

Tezuka
TnK!Ryoma

Top

Yukimura
Oni
Sanada
Ryoma
Irie

Upper High

Niou
Tooyama
Akutsu
Atobe
Shiraishi
Fuji S.

High

Mouri
Yamato
Chitose
Tachibana

Lower High

Inui
Mitsuya
Yanagi
Kite
Momoshiro

Upper Mid

Yagyuu
Kaidoh
Kirihara
Nakagauchi

Mid

Ishida G.
Kawamura
Miyako
Matsudaira
Krauser
Oshitari Y.
Hirakoba
Marui

Lower Mid

Akutagawa
Oshitari K.
Jackal
Hiyoshi

Low

Tanishi
Kikumaru
Chinen
Ibu
Kamio
Sengoku
Kai
Amane
Shishido
Sakata

Bottom

Ootori
Mukahi
Oishi
Kurobane
Mizuki
Fuji Y.

Not yet tiered

Kabaji
Zaizen
Washio
Suzuki
Takei
Date
Ban
Hara
Taira
Akiba
Yuuho
Yuuma
Byoudouin
Tanegashima
Duke
Ryoga
Ohmagari
Kimijima
Tohno
Ochi
Kaji
Tokugawa
Fuwa

For the fodder section of players, I wanna switch Shishido with the (Retarded slightly) Shooting Star Richard Sakata.
Since Richard lost just 6-4 to Sengoku I think he will be too much for Shishido in Singles.

(I personally believe is slightly retarded as he is only shown to laugh and his only dialogue was stating he didnt know how to run in a zig zag, thats fantastically retarded).

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Ochi VS Fuji. S in Singles. Who wins?

[LetalHawk]

Fuji vs Ochi? Fuji. You don't know what's going on on Fuji's head, his very unpredictable, you don't know what he'll do next. Like Shiraishi said, he's even more dangerous than Tezuka (pre-shin). So Ochi's pressure maybe won't work on him because you can't barely get in his head, and if Fuji can deal with mach, victory is for Fuji.

Ochi won't be able to return all of the counters also.

[mystictapion]

Fuji vs Ochi? Fuji. You don't know what's going on on Fuji's head, his very unpredictable, you don't know what he'll do next. Like Shiraishi said, he's even more dangerous than Tezuka (pre-shin). So Ochi's pressure maybe won't work on him because you can't barely get in his head, and if Fuji can deal with mach, victory is for Fuji.

Ochi won't be able to return all of the counters also.

Agreed.

Like Inui said too, Fuji was the only one that he didn't get data.

Fuji breaks DG/MA/MP (Idk which one I'll use).

I believe Fuji breaks Mach too.

And in the end, he'll use a new counter or a new epic technique that it'll shock everyone.

[Airgrimes]

Agreed.

Like Inui said too, Fuji was the only one that he didn't get data.

Fuji breaks DG/MA/MP (Idk which one I'll use).

I believe Fuji breaks Mach too.

What's DG, MA and MP lol?

And why would Fuji break Mach? Nothing tells us he can break Mach.

Also, 5th Counter was broken by Shiraishi within 3 games. Surely Ochi could do the same.
He displays top level technique. He and Mouri are completely fine despite Atobe and Niou looking out of it.

Ochi could also easily reach forward and catch Houou/Tsubame Gaeshi before it lands on the ground.

Ochi was completely finished by a standard shot from Kabaji so Im presuming Higuma Otoshi is good enough for him.

I dont see Hakugei effecting him that much. He could definitely reach up and return like Niou did.

He could also reach 4th Counter with is long limbs. He reached Atobe's shot quite nicely and comfortably.

W/out assuming Fuji will get a new counter (Although he probably would), its not certain that Fuji could defeat Ochi.

[LetalHawk]

Seriously? Ochi is tall but not that fast, bet he couldn't catch houhou gaeshi, or Hakuryuu, you have to be fast to get those. Definitely, he needs high technique to reurn fifth counter, he hasn't shown to be fast nor skilled. Also, you don't know what Fuji's gonna do, so his unpredictable play could disturb Ochi.

6th counter would pwn him

For pete's sake, Ochi, single wise, can't stand a chance against top MS. There's no way he could defeat Fuji.

[Brandnewkid]

Seriously? Ochi is tall but not that fast, bet he couldn't catch houhou gaeshi, or Hakuryuu, you have to be fast to get those. Definitely, he needs high technique to reurn fifth counter, he hasn't shown to be fast nor skilled. Also, you don't know what Fuji's gonna do, so his unpredictable play could disturb Ochi.

6th counter would pwn him

For pete's sake, Ochi, single wise, can't stand a chance against top MS. There's no way he could defeat Fuji.

Have you seen the Mach Serve?

[LetalHawk]

Have you seen the Mach Serve?

Running speed? He's a big server like Ootori, that he can serve that fast doesn't mean that he is very fast while running, becauae he's that tall he can move well around the court.