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Translations: Gintama 506 (2)
Singles Tier List
Only characters that had at least one match (or currently have one) are to be ranked. For Doubles, only players that played together before may be ranked.
Concerning the Tier Lists for Prefecturals, Tokyo, Kanto and Nationals, the above criteria apply to the given time frame.
Last edited by Kaoz; June 18, 2014 at 02:20 AM.
Krauser in this works perfectly (you're talking about Kabaji, REALLY? KA BA JI?).
Although, you can say that Shiraishi wouldn't return Gin shots, and he'd still be better than Kirihara. I think Power Players should be out of the list.
I was talking about your "No need for this IMO" sentence...
Edit: considering that WoK (a great pair) lost against a regular synchro pair... Yagyuu/Niou (with all their techs and tricks) would be good enough to beat them I think. They should be at DP's level.
Last edited by Hardy; January 03, 2013 at 04:07 PM.
In Devil Mode he goes for the person who attacked him or angered him when he thinks he can. As shown in his match with Krauser, granted that was Singles, but when paired with Shiraishi against Miyako/Matsudaira i'm pretty sure the person he lost his temper against was Matsudaira and he went straight for him.
Whereas Kaidoh he was a slimy bastard and went for Inui who I don't think there are many characters who have looked as pathetic as he did in that match.
All the evidence points towards Kirihara being unable to handle the Snakes + Gyro Laser combo regardless of Bloodshot Mode or Devil Mode.
I don't think Kirihara is one to play mind games. If he can beat you up with a tennis ball he will, so the fact he didn't beat Kaidoh up with a tennis ball means he can't do it, at least not reliably. I don't think he's necessarily weaker than Kaidoh, but it's certainly not going to be a beatdown like devil Kirihara versus Inui.
3rd Court get stomp by 1st stringer. Niou have to do wayyyyyy better than syncho with Yagyuu to beat Mutsu pair. In my opinion, at least. Mutsu doesn't look that impressive, but their feat are impressive by stomping the 3rd court.
And Tezuka/Inui pair is not wtf. It's in the manga.
Also, That list is missing Date/Ban, which should be somewhere above Mutsu pair.
Last edited by -Ken-; January 03, 2013 at 08:14 PM.
Remember Niou/Anybody Stronger than Oishi > Mutsu's.
Niou can become Mutsu to interrupt their Synchro.
Niou/Yagyuu >>> Mutsu/Mutsu. Niou becomes Mutsu and then you have Curving Lasers and Laserbeams being fired non stop?
I'm sorry but Curving Laser is far better than Moon Volley lol. if Niou/Oishi can win then Niou/Yagyuu is a given.
Ah, I forgot about synchoing with Mutsu. Yagyuu got it lucky by having a good partner.
Tezuka/Inui is almost a parallel to Sanada/Yanagi.
Albeit we don't know how good Tezuka and Inui's teamwork is in comparison to Sanada and Yanagi's is.
Kikumaru should have kicked his ass. It must be that his Technique is like... 1.5 or something.
With Sealed Step and his Bazooka he should have had a comfortable win against Lower Higa 3 guys.
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Why is Kintaro above Ryoma?
When Ryoma could hit 10 a significant amount of time before Kintaro without any trouble.
Yagyuu's ability is identical to Kaidoh's. He can join the list.
Can other people make their decision on Nakagauchi VS Kirihara?
Hiyoshi and Akutagawa will definetely beat Ibu.
I disagree with Krauser > Gin & Kawamura.
108th Hadoukyuu overwhelmed Ban, I don't see Krauser returning it.
And Kawamura survived many Summer of Danji's.
I think it's extremely unlikely and wouldn't make sense if Krauser's SC was stronger than Summer of Danji.
Date > Krauser imo, and Kawamura should really survive whatever Krauser tries to throw at him.
And it's not like Krauser's got good power endurance, he got put to the ground by Kirihara lol. He's not like Kawamura.
Kawamura would outlast Krauser. Kawamura > Krauser.
Kawamura's endurance is probably higher, but I wouldn't call Krauser's bad by any stretch of the imagination.
Kintaro has evolved to do it in the midst of a match.
I think the person who is most comfortable at 10ball is the better if we are to compare them.
I think its clear Ryoma is the most comfortable at 10ball.
So do you have a reason as to why you have Kintaro above him?
Above Kaidoh or just below.Quote:
Whilst the Gyro Laser is an amazing shot, it is in the same direction as the Tornado Snake.
Whereas the Curving Laser is in a completely diferent direction on the otherside of where the straight Laserbeam would land.
So Yagyuu has a more lethal combination.
All irrelevant since Krauser in reality should have nothing that can KO Kawamura.Quote:
No matter what happens Kawamura will outlast him in their exchanges of Power shots.
Krauser couldn't last running up and down a court for... 3, 4 or 5 games?
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Do you disagree with Hiyoshi and Akutagawa > Ibu?
Not like Kick Serve is phasing Hiyoshi who can stamp out Tannhauser Serve now.
Classically in any sports manga the 'guy from another country' always has superior base stats compared to Japanese or there wouldn't even be a point to mention it was a guy from another country. It's easy to forget that Kirihara is supposed to be the feared rising star so the fact that Krauser beats him handily when Kirihara doesn't have devil form pretty much puts him as top of the non top tier characters. In NPOT Krauser took a dive in stats and is almost certainly far worse than the average Black Jacket so I don't see how he's supposed to beat Kawamura who has the power of Jesus. I guess it's another example of how the official U17 training sucks hard where you have a guy who starts out with 'guy from another country' superior stats ends up being tired out after 3 games after some supposedly awesome training.
Sometimes I wonder if some of the characters in POT can even finish a normal set without tiring themselves out, and I'm not talking about playing against an opponent with an endurance style either (e.g. Atobe). D2 in the quarterfinals comes to mind where Hyotei was up 5-2 and then ran out of energy when they couldn't get the last point, so basically if they can't win 6-1 or faster that team auto-loses against anybody?
Kintaro being the typical Shounen main character, rather unintelligent, lack of common sense, strength far beyond what their physical appearance shows, wild with lack of manners, I don't think I would have wanted him as main character.
Kintaro didn't have it too bad. He was supposed to be an opposite to Ryoma from his intro.
The difference being Ryoma had it tough in Kanto, while it seems everybody in Kansai besides Shitenhouji are a pile of shit in this series so we could never really measure his accomplishments.
In fact Kintaro now has 10ball so its sort of bs to say he's had it bad. He has had enormous improvement and he hasn't been neglected at all despite not even being that popular at all. He came 30th in the last poll.
Kirihara has had it bad. At the very start he began as Ryoma's rival, but then he went onto an Anti-Fuji route like Fayte mentioned.
Thing is, by Nationals he stopped being Anti-Fuji.
Unlike Kirihara, who in Rikkai has Yagyuu, Yanagi, Niou, Sanada and Yukimura as great Singles players for senpai,
Fuji was with Tezuka, Ryoma, and... Inui who's body couldn't match his data.
So Konomi had to bring Fuji up and above Kirihara. Kirihara has been left in the dust imo.
Fuji will wipe the floor with Kirihara right now.
Kirihara went from Fuji tier to Kaidoh tier. That's a kick down.