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Thread: Aizen (KS/Hogyoku cocoon mode) vs Gin and tousen(shinigami/hollow)

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    Aizen (KS/Hogyoku cocoon mode) vs Gin and tousen(shinigami/hollow)

    hello ladies and gentlemen...
    allow me to present you a two scenario fight between Aizen and his followers. the idea of two scenarios was born by the fact that Aizen with both KS and Hogyoku is overpowered and by the differences of opinions on whether tousen can use both shinigamia and hollow powers after hollowfication. I think that both scenarios are pretty much balanced.

    Scenario #1

    Aizen vs Gin and Tousen

    conditions:
    • Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu's shikai is released.
    • Aizen doesn't have a hogyoku.
    • Aizen can not access BanKai.
    • Gin can go all out.
    • Tousen has shinigami powers (Kido + Shikai + Bankai) but can't access hollow powers
    • Tousen can go all out

    Scenario #2

    Aizen vs Gin and Tousen

    conditions:
    • Aizen has Hogyoku embbed into himself and is in his Cocoon mode
    • Aizen can not access neither Shikai nor Bankai of Kyoka Suigetsu
    • Gin can go all out
    • Tousen has hollow powers (mask + res) but can't access shinigami powers
    • Tousen can go all out


    who's gonna win?? you choose

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    Re: Aizen (KS/Hogyoku cocoon mode) vs Gin and tousen(shinigami/hollow)

    I think aizen wins on both scenarios. Tousen might be difficult in the first scenario but IMO aizen can match the guys resurreccion. Gin gets quickly taken out thanks to KS.

    As for the cocoon form, I don't think tousen and gin would even be fodder. In that form, aizen is no longer a creature shinigami, hollows or hybrids can defeat at all IMO. It's not a thing concerning power, I don't think even yamamoto as a super saiyan using bankai could even hurt him. The thing here is inherent superiority basically, basically aizen is altogether superior to shinigami.

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    Re: Aizen (KS/Hogyoku cocoon mode) vs Gin and tousen(shinigami/hollow)

    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    I think aizen wins on both scenarios. Tousen might be difficult in the first scenario but IMO aizen can match the guys resurreccion. Gin gets quickly taken out thanks to KS.
    I wouldn't say that. imo Tousen/Gin is the strongest and most dangerous team in the whole bleachverse. their bankais compliment each other perfectly. those two are like an integral of a killing machine. I wouldn't say they would go down so easily.

    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    As for the cocoon form, I don't think tousen and gin would even be fodder. In that form, aizen is no longer a creature shinigami, hollows or hybrids can defeat at all IMO. It's not a thing concerning power, I don't think even yamamoto as a super saiyan using bankai could even hurt him. The thing here is inherent superiority basically, basically aizen is altogether superior to shinigami.
    this applies only to the form he assumed after the cocoon broke down. creatures are usually most vulnerable when in an actual process of evolution.

    and.. what's a "saiyan"??


    I would like to clarify smth. tThe evidence shows that Aizen's cocoon form can be damaged. Yoruichi, Kisuke and Isshin all managed to do it. why didn't he die? because he regenerated. how's is he going to regenerate the head should Gin chop it off?
    Last edited by AlB; June 22, 2010 at 03:12 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Re: Aizen (KS/Hogyoku cocoon mode) vs Gin and tousen(shinigami/hollow)

    Quote Originally Posted by AlB View Post
    I wouldn't say that. imo Tousen/Gin is the strongest and most dangerous team in the whole bleachverse. their bankais compliment each other perfectly. those two are like an integral of a killing machine. I wouldn't say they would go down so easily.



    this applies only to the form he assumed after the cocoon broke down. creatures are usually most vulnerable when in an actual process of evolution.

    and.. what's a "saiyan"??
    Well, aizen could just shunpo in while using the illusion, I don't see how he could defend from aizen. Even a cover provided by tousen would not last long, I think it is pretty evidence how vastly superior aizen is to shinigami tousen. For all we know, he could crush both of them with reiatsu alone.... I don't see them winning this one.

    Aizen in cocoon was already someone urahara, yoruichi and ishin could not even hope to hurt. Even blowing him up from the inside caused no damage at all. Not to mention in cocoon form his reiatsu was already something entirely different from shinigami and heavily implied to be something shinigami cannot even grasp. Given what we saw, nothing gin or tousen could throw at aizen could ever cause damage. Seriously, tousens strongest attack would be about as useful as ishin's GT, gins best attack would be tanked like yoruichi's shunko...

    Saiyan is a race of creatures from dragon ball (perhaps I got the spelling wrong?). Super saiyan is the advanced form of a saiyan(basically a creature hundreds of times more powerful than an ordinary saiyan).

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