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The real Madara
Madara with another body (Who's body? Obito's?)
Izuna, Madara's brother
@DEATHBOTT: You know it doesn't work like that. One ninja can have absolutely no feats, but a ton of hype, and if someone defeats that person they're labled as elite by way of who they gained victory over. I shouted from the hilltops that Madara (Tobi) was a shell of his former self back during that fight, diminishing the actual acheivement, but no one wanted to accept it. They still considered it a victory over "the strongest Uchiha". Now, if Tobi is infact not Madara, then that one sliver of impressiveness gained from defeating Tobi becomes completely non-existant. He didn't beat the strongest anything.
@toussaintac: I think what he meant was that both Madara and Hashirama are direct decendants of "The 6 Paths". They are two different ninja decending from a common ancestor (Rikudou Sennin). Now they are one.
Last edited by ninjabot; October 15, 2011 at 02:52 PM.
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Lets all just think about how unbelievably tuff its going to be to fight Tobi.
Imagine if Pain had Jinchuriki hosts instead of High calibur ninjas.
And than imagine if Pain could teleport and become intangible at will.
And THAT is what you are getting when you fight tobi.
Pain on steriods.
Tobi is going to be a pretty hard to beat when he finally fights and I pity anyone who has the bad luck of running into him first.
Last edited by BaddAzzKenpachi74; October 15, 2011 at 06:36 PM.
Originally Posted by DEATHBOTT
Since when? When he got one shotted by Minato? Since he has access to ONE jutsu that happens to be incredibly hax? When have you seen Tobi reveal top class fighting, because it wasn't in the manga. Fuu, Torune, and Konan. That's literally the only ninja he's fought. And each event revolved around him avoiding combat rather than actually fighting (which still resulted in him being maimed). This is what I meant by playing up Tobi's strength inorder to make Minato's feat more impressive than it actually is. You're doint it right now.
Originally Posted by DEATHBOTT
Yep. I thought he was strong because of who he said he was, not because of the strength he's displayed, because Tobi has displayed NO strength. By believing he was Uchiha Madara then we had an idea of his strength. Genjutsu, the 3 MS jutsu (potentially), control over the Kyuubi, and the power gained from the Eternal Mangekyou... this all would make him godly. Tobi's strength however, lies in his ability to... not get hit. That's it.
Strongest Uchiha indeed.
Come on ... just admit that he is strong
Yes,he might be intelligent,sneaky,derpy and ready to butthurt Konan,but he hasn't shown any noticable jutsu.He got roflstomped by Konan(who get herself penetrated because of unexpected hax abilities),by the two fodder ne shinobi Fuu and Torune and just like everybody else by Minato.So where do you get the impression that he's strong?
The only thing that's admirable is that he's still somehow alive.
Well yeah,but the problem at hand is that he is about to face Naruto and Bee.The question is not really if he's strong compared to average shinobi,but if he can take our godly Naruto?I don't think so.Or more like,I have no reason to assume so.Sure,he might pull some new Rinnegan techniques out of his ass and give Naruto a decent asswhoping,but as of now,we have reason to think he'll get his face remodeled.
well a suddden thought as to who tobi is,cant he be a top class ninja from the uzumaki clan and survived uzumai massacre and is bent upn vengeance and desperation for peace!!he might have had his hands on madara's sharingan and later stockplied on other sharingan eyes..having sharingan doesnt affect him because of his clan's stamina and chakra..this uzumaki might be the nagato madara was talking about..well am not sure.. and he passed on the legacy of rinnegan, vengeance and desperation for peace on pein nagato!!but why did he give instead of having it himself??i cant think of it maybe kishi can
another thought of tobi's identity:why couldnt he be sasuke saruTOBI he was a very powerful ninja and belongs to the generation of madara and hashirama!we don know much about him other he was a very very strong shinobi and sandaime's father..could be anyway..just my guesses though