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The real Madara
Madara with another body (Who's body? Obito's?)
Izuna, Madara's brother
This is a continuation thread, the old thread is Here
Feel free to discuss all Tobi=whoever theories here. But some useful information from Iwanin follows ~ kaylee
Who is that guy? Where did he come from? What does he do? What the crap is the point of his character? Why does he have a swirly face? What has he done with his life besides drop a ring and get leg-viced by DeiDei?
Seriously, talk about a wasted character. Any thoughts? Is he really just a pointless fill-in for Akatsuki because Sasori had to die?
ADDED TOPIC: Who the hell are the other Akatsuki?
Those freakin' shadows in the caves at the end of Part 1; they drive me off the wall. I can tell the spiky haired one standing in the middle is the boss, and that's enough for me on him for now. Then the one low to the ground was Sasori, the one hanging from the cave ceiling was Dei, the one with the sword was Kurusame, the one with the plain looking head was itachi, and the one with the big goofy sharp head was Zetsu from a side view. But who is that big dude? And the other guy in front of him? And who is the other dude standing nearby the boss? I heard somewhere that one of the not-yet-introduced Akatsuki is a woman, but that's all I know.
Iwa nin's post is worthless. Obviously kishi is not gonna give away future plot twists in a summary of the events so far. It would be the equivalent of revealing that itachi is not really a sociopath in a summary of part 1.
Yes, but Pain was in fact Nagato and that body was in fact Yahiko's body...and there's no Pain/Nagato or Pain/Yahiko either...I agree though with both parties, but it still isn't something that it's very obvious...I mean Madara's identity...I think he can be Madara in another body for example...that's a middle path IMO and probably the logical conclusion, concerning all evidence and hints as well.
Last edited by Darth Executor; July 22, 2010 at 06:14 PM.
As far as Kabuto saying, "you go by Madara these days, don't you"
could mean nothing more than the fact that he was going by the name Tobi before.....
I dont know why the majority of people believe this MUST mean that he isn't Madara, when in actuality it could just as easily mean nothing but the obvious.
Remember how Kabuto didn't even have Tobi written in his databooks.
All Kabuto knew him as was Tobi, Zetsu's dumb apprentice.
Tobi has never revealed to Kabuto that he is in fact Madara, yet Kabuto "figured it out".
This could easily be the reason why he says "you go by Madara these days, don't you"
This is their first encounter since Tobi has told people he is Madara.
But Kabuto was never around for any of that, nor was he around any of the people whom were told he is Madara.
The question should really be
How did Kabuto findout that Tobi was in fact Madara?
What did he find?
Last edited by hawaplop; July 23, 2010 at 09:38 PM.
We see Madara fighting the 4th Hokage in the latest chapter. Same hair, height and stature as in the present time line. Compare this to Kakashi and Gai, they are much scrawnier and smaller in this flashback chapter; they're suppose to be the same age as Obito.
Is this enough evidence to bury this obito theory?
Though the difference in height is not something I can argue about, I still can help saying that something fishy is going with this Tobi/Madara guy. Haircut, his use (or not) of powers, the mask. I really hope Kishi does something believable to him, not just to be the real Madara or some other character with no relation a la Scooby Doo.
Isn't it obvious, they are enemies
anyways, this is an extended question of if Tobi is obito.
this is the greatest doubt in my mind, why give an eye to kakashi if it will weaken you.
and most obvious is he doesn't know how powerful yondaime is.
I voted others so I can be different from all you guys harhar
Tobi = Sasuke's future self
Last edited by elitefox; July 26, 2010 at 10:14 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
However, I definitely don't believe this individual is Obito. I'm more leaning towards it being some rogue element of the Eddy village that has a special disliking for the Uzamaki clan. However, with how much the Uzamakis will have historically screwed Madara over, a part of me also wouldn't mind this individual turning out to be Madara.
Then there's the stuff regarding Kabuto that I just can't shake. You know what, I'm not buying it. This person, whoever he is, isn't the real Madara. I suspect he's from the Whirlpool Country.
Well, i just noticed that, id like to have people's thoughts on this.
Take a good look at Madara's face on the bottom panel.
Don't you guys find anything weird ?
Did u notice it?
Look at his right eye,
Yes that thing, isnt that blood coming down from his eye? To me, it sure does look like it.
It could be just a scar near his eye that caused the bleeding but it also could be that that Madara got his right eye damaged during the fight with Hashirama. And He had to replace it with someone else's eye. Hence why we haven't seen him using his MS once.
And if that's the case the theory about Tobi having Obitos right eye "somehow" could be true.
Kakashi = the offensive space-time justu: left eye
Tobi/Madara = the defensive space-time jutsu: right eye
It is blood...it has the shape of blood...nice finding...I wonder if he used some jutsu there, or was it from controlling Kyuubi...it's interesting though, how it bled even in EMS form