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View Poll Results: Who is really Tobi?

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  • The real Madara

    51 20.82%
  • Madara with another body (Who's body? Obito's?)

    61 24.90%
  • Obito

    23 9.39%
  • Danzou

    1 0.41%
  • Izuna, Madara's brother

    62 25.31%
  • Other (explain)

    47 19.18%
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Thread: Tobi Identity & Mega Convo Thread

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    Re: I know who Tobi is. (NOT OBITO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    You're all silly boys. You'll see, one day Tobi will take his mask off and it will be revealed to be a man version of Konohamaru. Kishimoto loved the idea when he first saw it done in Dragonball Z with future Trunks.
    Sure is the best "tobisnotobito" theory ever! And according to this zetsu must be konohamaru's former bffe / his cute little carnivor plant
    sorry for my eng
    Last edited by vejita_sempai; July 15, 2010 at 06:32 AM.


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    Madara/Tobi Mega Convo - Part 1

    This is a continuation thread, the old thread is Here

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    Madara Mega Convo

    Feel free to discuss all Tobi=whoever theories here. But some useful information from Iwanin follows ~ kaylee

    Quote Originally Posted by Iwanin View Post
    Therein I still encounter the odd soul who insists we don't yet know if Tobi is Uchiha Madara. After He said he was. After Pain said he was. After one of the chapter covers said he was. After Itachi assured Sasuke Madara was alive.

    However, despite all that, the most definitive piece of evidence, to me, may be found on the summary pages of volume 41, wherein we see "Tobi" with the caption "Uchiha Madara."

    Here's the volume cover:



    And here is the smoking gun:



    Even if you can't read kana, you can tell the first three characters on Sasuke's name, う・ち・は・(Uchiha) match the same three characters on Tobi's name.

    So, the summary, written by Kishi and/or his editor for people who are new to Naruto, explains that the character is Uchiha Madara.

    It doesn't get more official than this, guys. Whether or not you choose to believe it, is up to you.



    Who is that guy? Where did he come from? What does he do? What the crap is the point of his character? Why does he have a swirly face? What has he done with his life besides drop a ring and get leg-viced by DeiDei?

    Seriously, talk about a wasted character. Any thoughts? Is he really just a pointless fill-in for Akatsuki because Sasori had to die?

    ADDED TOPIC: Who the hell are the other Akatsuki?

    Those freakin' shadows in the caves at the end of Part 1; they drive me off the wall. I can tell the spiky haired one standing in the middle is the boss, and that's enough for me on him for now. Then the one low to the ground was Sasori, the one hanging from the cave ceiling was Dei, the one with the sword was Kurusame, the one with the plain looking head was itachi, and the one with the big goofy sharp head was Zetsu from a side view. But who is that big dude? And the other guy in front of him? And who is the other dude standing nearby the boss? I heard somewhere that one of the not-yet-introduced Akatsuki is a woman, but that's all I know.

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    Re: Madara Mega Convo - Part 1

    Iwa nin's post is worthless. Obviously kishi is not gonna give away future plot twists in a summary of the events so far. It would be the equivalent of revealing that itachi is not really a sociopath in a summary of part 1.

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    Re: Madara Mega Convo - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Executor View Post
    Iwa nin's post is worthless. Obviously kishi is not gonna give away future plot twists in a summary of the events so far. It would be the equivalent of revealing that itachi is not really a sociopath in a summary of part 1.

    How is that post worthless?
    They could just have easily put Tobi or something else.

    They didn't even put Tobi/Madara.
    Just Madara. That's saying something, my friend.

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    Re: Madara Mega Convo - Part 1

    Yes, but Pain was in fact Nagato and that body was in fact Yahiko's body...and there's no Pain/Nagato or Pain/Yahiko either...I agree though with both parties, but it still isn't something that it's very obvious...I mean Madara's identity...I think he can be Madara in another body for example...that's a middle path IMO and probably the logical conclusion, concerning all evidence and hints as well.

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    Re: Madara Mega Convo - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Exodi View Post
    How is that post worthless?
    They could just have easily put Tobi or something else.

    They didn't even put Tobi/Madara.
    Just Madara. That's saying something, my friend.
    They put Madara because that's who he is known as right now. The 3rd databook has separate entries for tobi and madara even though tobi proclaimed himself madara and was called such by kisame before it came out. Does that automatically prove they are two different people? Of course not. We don't even know if Kishi wrote the summary. Kishi might be keeping the plot all to himself, so if an editor who never doubted that tobi is madara wrote it he would have no reason to put him down as tobi.
    Last edited by Darth Executor; July 22, 2010 at 06:14 PM.

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    Re: Madara Mega Convo - Part 1

    As far as Kabuto saying, "you go by Madara these days, don't you"
    could mean nothing more than the fact that he was going by the name Tobi before.....

    I dont know why the majority of people believe this MUST mean that he isn't Madara, when in actuality it could just as easily mean nothing but the obvious.

    Remember how Kabuto didn't even have Tobi written in his databooks.
    All Kabuto knew him as was Tobi, Zetsu's dumb apprentice.
    Tobi has never revealed to Kabuto that he is in fact Madara, yet Kabuto "figured it out".
    This could easily be the reason why he says "you go by Madara these days, don't you"
    This is their first encounter since Tobi has told people he is Madara.
    But Kabuto was never around for any of that, nor was he around any of the people whom were told he is Madara.

    The question should really be
    How did Kabuto findout that Tobi was in fact Madara?
    What did he find?
    Last edited by hawaplop; July 23, 2010 at 09:38 PM.

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    Obito = Tobi Mystery Solved?

    We see Madara fighting the 4th Hokage in the latest chapter. Same hair, height and stature as in the present time line. Compare this to Kakashi and Gai, they are much scrawnier and smaller in this flashback chapter; they're suppose to be the same age as Obito.

    Is this enough evidence to bury this obito theory?

    I want to show I can be a splendid ninja as well, even if I don't have ninjutsu or genjutsu ...
    I want to prove it to the whole world!

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    Re: Obito = Tobi Mystery Solved?

    Though the difference in height is not something I can argue about, I still can help saying that something fishy is going with this Tobi/Madara guy. Haircut, his use (or not) of powers, the mask. I really hope Kishi does something believable to him, not just to be the real Madara or some other character with no relation a la Scooby Doo.

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    Re: Link between Kakashi and Tobi?

    Isn't it obvious, they are enemies

    anyways, this is an extended question of if Tobi is obito.

    this is the greatest doubt in my mind, why give an eye to kakashi if it will weaken you.
    and most obvious is he doesn't know how powerful yondaime is.


    I voted others so I can be different from all you guys harhar

    Tobi = Sasuke's future self
    Last edited by elitefox; July 26, 2010 at 10:14 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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    Re: Link between Kakashi and Tobi?

    Quote Originally Posted by hibar90 View Post
    Didn't obito right sharingan got crushed under the stone?
    This is a manga where anything is possible. If a rock falls on top of somebody in real life, they're far more likely to have their skull severely damaged and suffer brain damage. There's a strong possibility that their eye will be firmly intact, even though there are risks present for the eye as well.

    However, I definitely don't believe this individual is Obito. I'm more leaning towards it being some rogue element of the Eddy village that has a special disliking for the Uzamaki clan. However, with how much the Uzamakis will have historically screwed Madara over, a part of me also wouldn't mind this individual turning out to be Madara.

    Then there's the stuff regarding Kabuto that I just can't shake. You know what, I'm not buying it. This person, whoever he is, isn't the real Madara. I suspect he's from the Whirlpool Country.

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    Re: Madara/Tobi Mega Convo - Part 1

    Well, i just noticed that, id like to have people's thoughts on this.


    http://www.narutocentral.com/manga.p...ruto&c=399&p=9

    Take a good look at Madara's face on the bottom panel.

    Don't you guys find anything weird ?

    Did u notice it?



    Look at his right eye,

    Yes that thing, isnt that blood coming down from his eye? To me, it sure does look like it.

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    Post Re: Madara/Tobi Mega Convo - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by insid3rkill3r View Post
    Well, i just noticed that, id like to have people's thoughts on this.


    http://www.narutocentral.com/manga.p...ruto&c=399&p=9

    Take a good look at Madara's face on the bottom panel.

    Don't you guys find anything weird ?

    Did u notice it?



    Look at his right eye,

    Yes that thing, isnt that blood coming down from his eye? To me, it sure does look like it.
    Nice finding there.

    It could be just a scar near his eye that caused the bleeding but it also could be that that Madara got his right eye damaged during the fight with Hashirama. And He had to replace it with someone else's eye. Hence why we haven't seen him using his MS once.

    And if that's the case the theory about Tobi having Obitos right eye "somehow" could be true.

    Kakashi = the offensive space-time justu: left eye
    Tobi/Madara = the defensive space-time jutsu: right eye

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    Re: Madara/Tobi Mega Convo - Part 1

    It is blood...it has the shape of blood...nice finding...I wonder if he used some jutsu there, or was it from controlling Kyuubi...it's interesting though, how it bled even in EMS form

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