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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
IMHO Minato knew exactly what he was doing when he placed the seal on 'Tobi' after the Rasengan, I beleive that this the way that the 1st defeated Madara, I stil beleive that Kagami is behind the mask and somehow used Izinagi to cheat death, and uses Madara's eye now to add to the guise.
He was alive when the 1st defeated the real Madara and no doubt he was the Uchiha that taught 'the great' (in my eyes Danzo about the forbidden techs of the Uchiha (as he was told 2 b Danzo's closest friend).
Your ideas on Kagami are interesting. But we've seen that 'tobi' has already left the scene. I doubt Minato would divide his already drained chakra when he already has to 1) Use Shiki Fuuin and 2) Make a Jinchuuriki. If Tobi could use Izanagi, I don't see why he wouldn't have done so to avoid damage from Minato's rasengan, especially with the Kyuubi being integral to his plans. Also keeping in mind that there were many Uchiha eyes available it just doesn't add up.
All in all, Minato would only be able to transport himself to Tobi, he wouldn't be able to bring tobi to him so it's unlikely he was involved with the sealing.
It'd be interesting if the Fourth had a greater meaning behind that seal he placed on tobi beyond even the initial purpose.
I don't really think the Contract seal can be related to the Shiki Fuujin...seals are related, but not necessarily in that strict fashion...we know that Minato added the Hiraishin seal on Kushina, so seals can coexist, but I don't think it's the case here...it doesn't really matter, because Shiki Fuujin can be nullified, by changing bodies, and Tobi definitely looks like somebody who can do that
Just a thought feel free to criticize
who ever is behind the mask didn't recognize izanagi when danzo first started using it.during the sasuke battle tobi hadn't noticed it until danzo used it two or three times.so who ever it is only knew about it but never seen it before.but i do agree that this person knows danzo on a personal level,just by his comment about danzo has two capable underlings now and the oro experiments he knew about.
maybe this is what itachi was referring to,minato may have been the one to put him in this weak state.but itachi has only heard of the first beating him,no one was around except kushina to see minato fight tobi/madara.maybe his body atleast a portion of it was lost,but his eyes being as strong as they were survived.just a thought.....
Last edited by benelori; September 14, 2010 at 03:59 AM.