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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
Thats what confused me too ^^
But it would explain Namis reaction that Luffy acts selfish.
And remember what Luffys main thought was when he realied how much he needs and misses his nakama: "I am weak"
Maybe he and the others realise that this is the only way and therefore they accept it.
Especially Robin know what it means to be hunted and to hide.
Btw - Ussop and Chopper have tears running out there eyes
So as was said, I'll discount the "place" theory since Vivre Card works for that.
I doubt it's a date because was Luffy himself who wnated to see their nakamas and I doubt their nakamas after this long would want to see him later. More when it's not a real danger to meet right now.
So my bet is that Luffy wanted to say something else. What? I don't know. But I doubt it's a date or a place, it's something that goes further than that.
The place theory can't be discounted... The vivre card the strawhats have all leave towards shakky at the SA. In that sense, the message should involve altogether a change in place and probably in timing.
I don't think the tattoo is an important part of the message; we can't read it so why the hell should they be able to? Too much depends on the whims of photographers. It's impressively mind-boggling, one of us must have it right as it can't be too cunning or Chopper/Zoro wouldn't get it, it can't be something based on a shared experience like the bell of Shandia because Brooke hasn't been with them long enough, but it can't be something that someone else who knows Luffy well but hasn't sailed with them, like Coby or Garp, would get either.
I'd love to know if the bell/ sailing round the island as a memorial thing is based on a maritime tradition though, anyone know?
Also if Rayleigh remotely wants them to survive he wouldn't encourage them to all make their way to the New World on their own, from what we've seen. splitting up and running in different directions resulted in disaster last time.
Most important, as other people said, Luffy really wants to see his crew. he's not going to wait 2 years..
Change in place would be easy, they just have to move either Rayleigh or the other half of the paper, whichever the Vivre Card points to, to some obscure hiding place and wait; so it can't be that. And we've never seen the Strawhats show any interest in birthdays, despite any excuse for a celebration, and they've been sailing long enough that at least one crewmember should have had one. Nami for one couldn't possibly know what day she was born, unless she counts the day Bellemere adopted her. Unless it's a japanese culture thing that I've missed that people are assumed to know each other's birthdays, it won't be that.
I think for other reasons they will meet up soon and go to Fishman Island: the story has been in relentless crisis-mode ever since they split up, and in the past Oda let them have some fun between the more serious arcs, like the Davy Back fight and Thriller Bark. Camie and Hacchi, who must be in on the plan, were clearly discussing what they'd do when they got there.
Last edited by Ratatosk; August 03, 2010 at 01:59 PM.
Seems to me like the message was something along the lines of "get stronger so we won't get separated again" I don't know how they got it through the picture though.
But even if Luffy knows he is 'weak', he is still the captain and the strongest member of the crew, and they are now being chased by countless people who are stronger than them, mainly because of his recent actions. Even if he's lost all his confidence/ambitions to be the Pirate King (which I doubt), he's going to want to protect the people he's got left. The best option for survival is to meet up.
And he's seen enough Haki to work it out for himself, without training arcs to slow the story down, let the rest of the Supernovas get ahead of him, and decrease the reader's respect for his independence. The best thing about One Piece fights is people making it up on the fly.
Here's my thought (copied from the discussion thread):
So, his message was something like : "I'm fine, I'm training. Train yourself where Kuma sent you and we will see each other in x months/years"
Maybe some people were right and the tatoo is SA2Y
The crossed S and A are for Sabo and Ace, but it also means Sabaody Archipelago in 2 years.
Are we going to get a 2 years timeskip?
Two years thing seems far too stretched to take it seriously, at least for me. I think they will "train" a bit more and meet in two weeks.
It would take more than that for some of them to just get out of their islands...
And that's not even counting that they would have to make their way back to their rendez-vous point...
Although, I agree that 2 years is pretty long, if we consider that they haven't even been all together for 1 years (especially the new recruits, Franky and Brooke).
There is no 'A' in Luffy's tattoo. It says;
This is why, the 'P' can't mean Archipelago. However, it could mean Pirates, as previously mentioned in this discussion.
I do agree, though, that two years is an awful long time to wait, both for Luffy and his crew. But two years may be the only way for us to notice a change in the characters (if Oda has decided to do a time-skip). After all, the starting characters hasn't changed that much in one year. Right?
Look at his actions for the meaning, not the number of bandages he was wearing or a barely legible tattoo.
I looked at the first page posts and maybe it means 3 months 16 days. the silent thing was meant to say "stay on the DL for now and gather yourself" (flowers=relaxing??)
I guess I've finally understood a bit of Luffy's message. When Lieutenant Brandnew said Luffy took a battleship at MHQ and sailed around the bay, Luffy was actually leaving the island with a stolen ship - as if he was heading for SA - and then suddenly came back to do something - in his case pay respect to Ace's death place.
It was to tell his crewmates to stay or to return where they were sent by Kuma because they also had something to do there. That explains Chopper's decision to fly back after he understood Luffy's message.
So if we really have guessed what the ringing bell or/and the tatoo mean - probably a time to gather - then we've understood Luffy's full message ! By the way, I'm surprised nobody talked about the sailing meaning before.
Last edited by Lord Rayleigh; August 04, 2010 at 05:23 PM.