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    Luffy's message to his nakama

    Chapter 594 just came out... the main question is:

    What the hell did Luffy wanted to say to his nakama with those actions???

    Unless it's something that happened offscreen, which would be kinda lame, even readers should be able to make a guess... yet I have absolutely no idea on what the message could be. It's probably some directions to meet, but I really don't know where to start. Well, One Piece is great even because of these things.

    The relevant actions that Luffy did were:
    - he returned to Marineford, the place where he lost his brother.
    - he was with an ex-member of the world's strongest crew and an ex-shichibukai.
    - he has a new tatoo that's probably very similar to Ace's.
    - he circled Marineford 3 times.
    - he stepped in the plaza alone.
    - he rang the western ox bell 16 times (I don't know anything about the bell, except what Killer explained).
    - he thrown flowers on the battlefield.
    - he made that pose and silently prays.
    - he went back just after that.

    Anyone has any idea? I may also be some kind of word or japanese pun, in that case I doubt we will ever get it...

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    If u r asking about what the exact message is then i have no idea.
    I just stick with its a change of meeting location for all the SH and now Luffy, Jinbei and Rayleigh is on their way to take the Thousand Sunny.
    Kuma might being completely controlled by now and there will be a fight there.

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    Re: Luffy's message to his nakama

    I think he meant for the message to change the meeting place of the strawhats. the second their whereabouts are revealed they are sure to get high level marines on their asses due to the noble and war incidents. Assuming they are overly lucky, they would at the very least get a VA (who'd still beat the crap out of the lot of them) and the most reasonable scenario is that they get an admiral backed up with pacifista.

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    Re: Luffy's message to his nakama

    Well I'm spearheading the notion that, since the bell is used to signify the new year, that Luffy is actually trying to tell his crew to meet up in the new year.

    Rather than recklessly returning at all personal costs (see Zoro, Ussop and Sanji's wounds) or returning to wait around and be potentially attacked (seeing as Robin, even at full steam, appears quite some distance away), Luffy sets a date in the future for them to meet once again.

    The reason I think it must be a time and not a place is that, if it was just a place, Rayleigh would just grab his Vivre card and sit somewhere easy to find. And by showing Rayleigh in the newspaper, it reaffirms the fact that the Vivre Card should be the "meeting point", regardless of it's location.

    The New Year, since we haven't seen one yet and the timing is apparantly "off", could be anything between 1 week away and 9 months away. This theory also then looks into the potential "timeskip" Oda was looking to.

    If it's not the "New Year", my back up theory is Luffy's 18th birthday. 18 = adulthood = new year = new era all in one happy basket. Presuming they all actually know Luffy's birthday (enormous question mark here), it would make more sense than the 1st day of the 1st month of a new year.

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    Re: Luffy's message to his nakama

    Quote Originally Posted by bittman View Post
    Well I'm spearheading the notion that, since the bell is used to signify the new year, that Luffy is actually trying to tell his crew to meet up in the new year.

    Rather than recklessly returning at all personal costs (see Zoro, Ussop and Sanji's wounds) or returning to wait around and be potentially attacked (seeing as Robin, even at full steam, appears quite some distance away), Luffy sets a date in the future for them to meet once again.

    The reason I think it must be a time and not a place is that, if it was just a place, Rayleigh would just grab his Vivre card and sit somewhere easy to find. And by showing Rayleigh in the newspaper, it reaffirms the fact that the Vivre Card should be the "meeting point", regardless of it's location.

    The New Year, since we haven't seen one yet and the timing is apparantly "off", could be anything between 1 week away and 9 months away. This theory also then looks into the potential "timeskip" Oda was looking to.

    If it's not the "New Year", my back up theory is Luffy's 18th birthday. 18 = adulthood = new year = new era all in one happy basket. Presuming they all actually know Luffy's birthday (enormous question mark here), it would make more sense than the 1st day of the 1st month of a new year.
    Wow excellent deduction


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    I hope they know Luffy's birthday though <.< but if all SH know then I can think of one who doesn't know Luffy's birthday

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    Re: Luffy's message to his nakama

    Quote Originally Posted by bittman View Post
    Well I'm spearheading the notion that, since the bell is used to signify the new year, that Luffy is actually trying to tell his crew to meet up in the new year.

    Rather than recklessly returning at all personal costs (see Zoro, Ussop and Sanji's wounds) or returning to wait around and be potentially attacked (seeing as Robin, even at full steam, appears quite some distance away), Luffy sets a date in the future for them to meet once again.

    The reason I think it must be a time and not a place is that, if it was just a place, Rayleigh would just grab his Vivre card and sit somewhere easy to find. And by showing Rayleigh in the newspaper, it reaffirms the fact that the Vivre Card should be the "meeting point", regardless of it's location.

    The New Year, since we haven't seen one yet and the timing is apparantly "off", could be anything between 1 week away and 9 months away. This theory also then looks into the potential "timeskip" Oda was looking to.

    If it's not the "New Year", my back up theory is Luffy's 18th birthday. 18 = adulthood = new year = new era all in one happy basket. Presuming they all actually know Luffy's birthday (enormous question mark here), it would make more sense than the 1st day of the 1st month of a new year.
    Wow. I had the very same idea. Though it's hard to explain why they should arrenge a time for their meeting, the Luffy's birthday theory could explain the "last adventure as a 17 year old"...

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    Re: Luffy's message to his nakama

    Luffy's birthday is on may 5 (children's day). He was supposed to have left his villlage when he turned 17, so the "last adventure as 17" thing would make the series time placement 1 year.
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    Re: Luffy's message to his nakama

    There might be a time involved in this but I doubt it has anything to do with luffy's birthday. For one thing, the whole thing seems to be raileghts idea. For another, according to what we saw before, raileight wanted to avoid the strawhats meeting in SA so that they could avoid meeting the same fate as last time.

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    Re: Luffy's message to his nakama

    In my opinion its the tat. with the message :
    No (SP is crossed out) Strawhat Pirates 2 Years - SP2Y

    Think about it:
    -As it seems the monkeys are still a big match for zorro because he cant hold the newspaper by himself yet also hes far from beeing a swordsman on Rayleighs level therefore a little bit training with Mihawks pets would be helpfull.

    -Same goes for Sanji who got easily beaten off panel by Iva. Additionally some kind of abstinence from women could work on him like on a monk in a monastery

    - I dont see a way how Ussop could leave his island and get thin again without a time skip other than Chopper picking him up

    - Franky would have enough time to study Vegapunks work and he could rebuild himself based on it

    - Brooke could go on tour with the longarm tribe

    - Robin could stay with the revolutionaries

    - Chopper (for whom its most unfitting to spend 2 years alone) could meet up with Zorro so he could treat his wounds while hes training

    - Same goes for Nami i'd think she'd meet up with someone maybe with Vivi because of her new rain-bringing tactics.

    Even other chars like Corby would benefit from a time skip especially cause we now know he has haki so the next time we see him could be in a vice admrial postion.

    The main facts for assuming that there will be a time skip are:

    - Oda is a huge dbz fan and hands down someone who loves drawing as much as him wont resist to give some sort of change to its main chars.

    - Rayleigh plotting with Kuma wont have the goal to end them to islands they leave immideatly. Ray will have told Luffy where they are and why and that they are healthy. Remember Ray warned Luffy that it would end like on SA when they gather up now so the plan is to let some time pass while they all take a training session ( at least the monster trio + Ussop.)

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    Re: Luffy's message to his nakama

    Actually, that is not a bad idea.... The bells could mean the strawhats are not to mean as soon as possible but rather a specific amount of time so that they could get stronger. They'd still meet in SA a while from now but they would take their time to get stronger and avoid getting beat up like before. I'd think luffy meant for his crew to meet a year from now rather than two though.

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    Re: Luffy's message to his nakama

    I don't think it is a date. We know that Luffy wants to see his crew as soon as possible that is the thing that gave him the spirit to come back. I don't think he can wait several monthes. Also most of the 594 chapter has been about the new world so the Strawhat have to get their soon. Do you think that Smoker would go to G5 and wait for the Strawhat half a year ? To me this chapter is a teasing for New World and we know that Oda has increased the pace of the war to reach it as soon as possible.
    For the place, the only thing that the Strawhat have to navigate is the vivre card, they can not relate on log pose or anything else. So they are going to where Shakky is. That's what is still the mystery to me, Shakky is waiting on the Thousand Sunny in Saobady which looks like a dangerous place to meet. But maybe they waited until Rayleigh plan starts in case some of the Strawhat came back before that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soka View Post
    In my opinion its the tat. with the message :
    No (SP is crossed out) Strawhat Pirates 2 Years - SP2Y
    ...
    I think if that is the message then the reaction of all SH must be all the "Why?" "No!" "I don't wanna" and uneasy faces not all that "Roger!!" and smiling and understanding since 2 yrs is not gonna be short.
    Also I doubt Luffy would agree to wait that long after he practically cried out loud how much he want to meet his crew. About training, I agree he need some but Luffy's adventure is his training since the beginning so I think just some guide in using Haki is enough. The boy will figure out how to utilize it himself later, 2 yrs is overkill.
    All the SN is in NW now, too. And SH have reached the door of NW, clearly the main battle field from now on, and they not gonna get in?
    Like that gonna happen?!
    Its also why I don't think the message is smt that will involve anymore delaying on time but a change of location instead. It will be faster and still assure their safety. They have stayed at this place long enough

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    Re: Luffy's message to his nakama

    hmmm.

    i think that the 16 bells there means luffy's crew. Maybe it tells them that the 8 of them(the crew that was separated) that they are going soon to new world hence the other 8 bells.

    Maybe it's a date too like March(he circled the marineford 3 times) 16 (the times he rang the bell)

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    Re: Luffy's message to his nakama

    nah 16 represents which island number to go to on shabondy

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    Re: Luffy's message to his nakama

    i think the one year wating is a very good theory, what i came up with was that new year = new world, so he was telling them to meet in the new world, but now that you said the one year wait, im not sure on my theory, i mean Oda did say that this was Luffy's last adventure as a 17y/o so it makes sence
    cuz if he thinks that i know that he is thinking what i think he is thinking then he thinks i know he thiks that, but he dont know that i know that he knows...savy

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