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    Re: Worst zanpaktuo and other abilities in Bleach

    Quote Originally Posted by Young Aizen View Post
    Well anyone who's mastered their Zan doesn't have say anything to initiate it. And hey, that sounds like a near perfect ability to me... which is f*ckin raw to me. But we all know that it has a weakness. I think most people are annoyed at the fact that KS trolled a lot of their favorite characters...better yet over 90% of the cast.
    Yet despite that they say something when initiating their shikai even the captain commander said his release command and I am pretty sure he has mastered his.
    http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showth...ewpost&t=62941 What's your favorite zanpakuto release command I want to know? Click the link http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showth...ewpost&t=63012 What is the worst zanpakuto ability and other techniques I want to know?

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    Re: Worst zanpaktuo and other abilities in Bleach

    i seem to have misunderstood the point of the thread. i thought it meant "worst" as in sucky, non-useful zanpakutos. not just our least favorites.

    but if that were the case, half of these wouldn't be listed, especially KS, as it's probably the most useful.

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    Re: Worst zanpaktuo and other abilities in Bleach

    Ukitake's shikai(as of now) seems way too easy to work around.

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    Re: Worst zanpaktuo and other abilities in Bleach

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanzokuken View Post
    i seem to have misunderstood the point of the thread. i thought it meant "worst" as in sucky, non-useful zanpakutos. not just our least favorites.

    but if that were the case, half of these wouldn't be listed, especially KS, as it's probably the most useful.
    It is worst as in sucky but also worst as in opinion of abilities of zan. Therefore you can discuss an ability you think is bad or don't like. This is for discussion so as long as you have reason why you find an ability useless or zan bad you can discuss it.
    http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showth...ewpost&t=62941 What's your favorite zanpakuto release command I want to know? Click the link http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showth...ewpost&t=63012 What is the worst zanpakuto ability and other techniques I want to know?

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    Re: Worst zanpakutou and other abilities in Bleach

    I've hated Ichigo's shikai since the moment I saw it. What's worse is that he's always in a constant-release so whenever he's not in bankai we have to put up with that ugly giant cleaver thing. His sealed sword was much better, and I think he was more badass back then too. Granted, Ichigo has spent like half the manga in bankai because he's too weak to do anything without it.

    His bankai is okay - it at least returns to being a more respectable looking weapons - but still, compared to other bankai out there it's pretty underwhelming. Of course that's probably because of the fact that he's never actually trained with zangetsu in his bankai form up until now - which is why compared to a captain's bankai tensa zangetsu seemed a lot weaker.

    Others I don't care too much for are: Ikkaku's shikai, Kaname's shikai, Gin's shikai, and Choujirou's shikai. I agree with others who've already stated Ikkaku's shikai blows. Probably the reason why he lost to rookie Ichigo besides being far more experienced. His bankai seems to be a different story though. In fact, I think if he had a rematch with Ichigo, and Ichigo was limited to using his bankai only (no mask) I think Ikkaku could take him.
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    Re: Worst zanpakutou and other abilities in Bleach

    Quote Originally Posted by wrob4343 View Post
    Yeah I suppose you're right about Renji, but I mean there's only so many times that thing can reattach itself with kido and him expect somebody to be surprised. It really speaks more to the lack of development with other characters, where we haven't seen their abilities and then others have been done to death.
    Part of why I kind of like it is how wtfawesome it was when he first release, a scene I saw in the anime before I read the manga. It still looked good after the Byakuya fight, it was supposed to be a doomed battle, Renji and Zabimaru didn't look bad for losing to me. It started to wear thin when he was unable to defeat espada 8, while every other character was starting to mow down Espada.

    Quote Originally Posted by Young Aizen View Post
    Ugh.. KS is a great Zan and it perfectly reflects Aizen's personality. People don't like it because of Aizen's usage of it... but honestly he'd be a fool not to use whenever possible. But the worst? I'm going to have to go to with Omaeda's....
    Quote Originally Posted by ceasar View Post
    Omaeda's is bad but KS is just awful too me he doesn't have to say anything to initiate it and you see it once and your in it for life be serious that is bad. Everybody else has abilities that hit at a certain time and in KS is only stopped when Aizen wants or if he gets killed.
    When KS was first explained during the SS arc it seemed epic. I loved the way he used it during that arc, not for combat but to execute a well laid plan. I learned to hate it when it became a combat ability, it feels like a get out of jail free card to me. Not knowing when it is used or not doesn't bother me, it should be that way. The characters can't know when it is being used, in theory it is more effective for the audience not to know. That this has become a nuisance has more to do with the way KS has been used in KS. Aizen would have been a better character if he were less of a warrior type. If he relied on his subordinates to fight while using KS to camouflage his movements and intentions, like during SS.

    Most zanpakutou require the release command before shikai is activated (howl zabimaru), if that were the case for Aizen it would have made KS a lot worse. Why tell the enemy they are going to be tricked before you trick them

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    Re: Worst zanpakutou and other abilities in Bleach

    Raikouben... yeah, one problem I had with that was it translated to something like lightening whip. Missile is neither a lightening nor a whip.

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    Re: Worst zanpakutou and other abilities in Bleach

    Quote Originally Posted by WickedNeko View Post
    Raikouben... yeah, one problem I had with that was it translated to something like lightening whip. Missile is neither a lightening nor a whip.
    thunder whip or the hornet.

    the thunder bit comes from the BOOM.

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    Re: Worst zanpaktuo and other abilities in Bleach

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperShuter View Post
    I hate all the non melee shikias, starting from Hitsugaya. It ruined Bleach and turnt it into DBZ. Now we have to put up with all these kamahamaha battles, or element ones. Damn Bleach would have been so cool if they stuck to actual sword fighting...
    What?? In DBZ all they did is punch each other in the face and fire boring energy blasts at each other. The only non melee shikai that is anything like that is Ichigo's. All the other ones control elements or something. The abilities and battles are so much more interesting than DBZ.....not just in Bleach, but in most manga I read. Seriously, DBZ just recycled the same abilities over and over again for the majority of the characters and battles.

    If I had to start with a zanpakuto that disappointed me, I'd start with Hiyori's Kubikiri Orochi. I mean, it's just a giant serrated cleaver, I guarantee if we look at the training between Ichigo and Zangetsu to learn Bankai one of those swords stuck in the ground will look almost exactly like it. It does nothing. At first I wasn't sure if I liked Lisa's Hagurotonbo, but I guess it aint bad. Sasakibe's shikai IS lame, and we've only seen it once. I don't get how his Zanpakuto spirit gets the awesome abilitiy to control ligtning, but he just gets a lame fencing sword. Wonderweiss's resurrecion was weird....I'll have to wait til it gets animated before I decide if I really dislike it, but so far I think I might be disappointed.

    I like Love's shikai, but I felt like Kubo should've added more design to it, like put some oni masks on it or something. Dondochakka and that annoying red haired kid have weapons that look too similiar in design. And Ukitake's shikai better have more than just being able to redirect ceros......that'd be really lame. It'd also be nice if Kubo could explain what the hell is up with Iba's shikai. It has no name, and I would like to hope that it has some kind of ability.

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    Re: Worst zanpaktuo and other abilities in Bleach

    Quote Originally Posted by Random101 View Post
    Gin's Shikai as its currently been presented is easily the worst in the series for any captain, possibly even vice captain level. Especially after that asinine limit was added. It's basically what any ol' captain could do anyway, only shorter. Seriously. Speed of extension is dodgable point blank from a sneak attack strike to the head, and long swords in general aren't an advantage. Lucky thing his bankai adds a huge degree of lethality to it.
    Gin's shikai is actually one of the strongest in my opinion because gin himself is a very sneaky character and when you think that he has his back turned against u, he can immediately pierce you with his shikai and his shikai techniques are all hard to block even for ichigo and other strong characters. he even obliterated aizen with his bankai which is very similar to his shikai.

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    Re: Worst zanpakutou and other abilities in Bleach

    worst ability IMO is none other than soifon's bankai .for god's sake , a rocker launcher? a rocket launcher to someone like soifon ? i think kubo trolled us pretty hard
    there are only 2 cases where that power can be of any use to any1

    -if you have an opponent like barragan or yammy who are slow and huge and too cocky , they wont care to dodge/evade/move away

    -if you are going for massive destruction ,blowing a building or something like that


    other than these, soifon's ability is good for nothing and nothing at all ,its the worst ability ever . worst forever

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    Re: Worst zanpaktuo and other abilities in Bleach

    Quote Originally Posted by exacta View Post
    What?? In DBZ all they did is punch each other in the face and fire boring energy blasts at each other. The only non melee shikai that is anything like that is Ichigo's. All the other ones control elements or something. The abilities and battles are so much more interesting than DBZ.....not just in Bleach, but in most manga I read. Seriously, DBZ just recycled the same abilities over and over again for the majority of the characters and battles.

    If I had to start with a zanpakuto that disappointed me, I'd start with Hiyori's Kubikiri Orochi. I mean, it's just a giant serrated cleaver, I guarantee if we look at the training between Ichigo and Zangetsu to learn Bankai one of those swords stuck in the ground will look almost exactly like it. It does nothing. At first I wasn't sure if I liked Lisa's Hagurotonbo, but I guess it aint bad. Sasakibe's shikai IS lame, and we've only seen it once. I don't get how his Zanpakuto spirit gets the awesome abilitiy to control ligtning, but he just gets a lame fencing sword. Wonderweiss's resurrecion was weird....I'll have to wait til it gets animated before I decide if I really dislike it, but so far I think I might be disappointed.

    I like Love's shikai, but I felt like Kubo should've added more design to it, like put some oni masks on it or something. Dondochakka and that annoying red haired kid have weapons that look too similiar in design. And Ukitake's shikai better have more than just being able to redirect ceros......that'd be really lame. It'd also be nice if Kubo could explain what the hell is up with Iba's shikai. It has no name, and I would like to hope that it has some kind of ability.
    Hiyori, Lisa, Iba, Sasikabe, and Kotetsu all may have better shikais than we think. we don't know if they have special abilities. i doubt all of them are just melee weapons.

    if Sasikabe's rapier can use some electricity abilities, that will be a cool one. i also hope that Lisa's spear has some cool stuff to it.

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    Re: Worst zanpakutou and other abilities in Bleach

    Hitsugaya's: It's shikai looks so clumsy and unattractive and naturally the bankai is a H4X one. But even then, it's ugly as sin!

    I tend to dislike elemental zanpakutos because the weakness is so obvious and elemental zanpakutos are just so typical to me anyway, really. The only one that seems interesting to me was Ryuujin Jakka, because it's not some fancy-mumbo jumbo but instead a shitload of flames being fired at you like the ultimate flamethrower.

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    Re: Worst zanpakutou and other abilities in Bleach

    I liked Gin's bankai, when he presented it as the fastest, but with this old poison bs and stuff, I dropped it to the worst in my book. It seems like a cry for help..

    Another I hate is tousen's shikai, what does it do and how does it relate to Emma Kurou?

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    Re: Worst zanpakutou and other abilities in Bleach

    I think the worst zanpakuto is Aizen's. I mean come on, if you touch the sword then total hypnosis cant be activated? thats wack :P

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