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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
Senju Hashirama (Shodaime)
Senju Tobirama (Nidaime)
Sarutobi Hiruzen (Sandaime)
Namikaze Minato (Yondaime)
As for the senjus and the uchihas. The uchihas each had a sharingan that is dangerous while the senjus had one ninja who had mokuton. IMO the senjus are superior seeing as how they found a way around the sharingan
I think sarutobi in his prime was the strongest of the hokages. He held back orochimaru, hashirama and tobirama in a state in which he was refered to as decrepit by the anbu there.
Also if you look at his stats the only points in which he doesnt have 5/5 are strenth, speed and stamina, which are directly related to his phisical condition. And what happens to phisical condition when you get old??? You lose it. Given that and the fact that he was refered to as decrepit, I would say that in his prime sarutobi actually had 5/5 in all his stats. I know stats arent that absolute, but still, the posibility of someone having 40/40 in all stats is scary. That is just my opinion though, hopefully I wont be flame for believing sarutobi could give any other hokage a good old fashion spanking.
My point was that if you want to take away the Mokuton from the 1st or the EMS from Madara(for argument sake), then it is only logical and fair/just that you take away Minato's death god seal or to be precise his most powerful Jutsu.
The only helping example i can come up with now is in math; even though it is in a different field but the same concept applies; when you have
2X = 4
Then you must divide the two side by 2 to get the true answer.
The point of this example is that what ever you take away for one ninja, you must take away the corresponding jutsu/ power from the other ninja.
Last edited by Baron Hugenstein; October 27, 2008 at 08:18 PM.
Raizen didn't mean taking away EMS nor Mokuton. Just the ability to control Kyuubi. Or just them battling all out against the Kyuubi without trying to control it and see who emerges as the victor. It's like Kyuubi obeyed Shodai or Madara because they were stronger than him or anything. It's just that they had the tools to do so.
^ i know, but you didn't see my point;
EMS or Mokuton are simply tools as with Jutsu, they are the ninjas tools.
So if you take something from one, you have to take the equivalent from the other.
Well that's the thing here. I mean can Shodai and Madara actually fought Kyuubi and won
?? Let's forget about them not having the ability to control and all. Let's just assume that they don't want to control Kyuubi and fought all out. Can they win. That's the thing here.
Oh @ kkck, where is the stats for the 3rd. When I looked at DB3 there were no stats. Can u post it?? Thanks
These is where I got the stats.
my opinion remains the 1st is the strongest hokage i would like to actually see him fight in his prime not like the fight with the 3rd...
True, Hashirama was formerly known throughout the world at being on top of the shinobi universe. However, if Minato is moving to fast for Hashirama to see, I can't see Minato losing this fight.