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So what? If I recall, Naruto didn't really engage in taijutsu fight, but he jumped at Nagato. Much different from what happened between him and Itachi, so you can't use that to show Nagato's better. You can use that, however, to show that if Itachi is caught, then he's doomed.
There is - Itachi and Sasuke can be too fast to tough. Same with Rock Lee. He was too fast for Sasuke to touch back in Part I, or even react to. Raikage could be considered too fast to touch, as I only recall Sasuke touching him when Raikage went close in for an elbow. Susano'o isn't useless considering Nagato would have to touch it to absorb the chakra. Unless Itachi holds Nagato with Susano'o, he wont' be able to absorb it. if by any chance the Sword of Totsuka does pierce Nagato, he is defeated.
He did not look half dead, and if you see the surrounding, you can see Kakashi was buried in rubble. Basically, the damage comes from the impact of whatever the victim hits. So if Nagato doesn't Shinra Tensei Itachi into a rock or a building, Itachi won't receive as much damage. The frogs could have been crushed by the impact of Shinra Tensei. Look at how they hit the ground or "wall" after being pushed. Once again, it depends on what they hit after being pushed. Though, unlike Naruto, Itachi can't resist Shinra Tensei or Bansho Tenin, and even if he tried, it'd be like Kakashi. Still fails.
It was never stated he couldn't do it alone.
I'm not sure how difficult his chances are. Itachi has genjutsu, Sharingan, and speed. Not to mention, he has Nagato's biggest weakness - bunshins. Nagato has shown to fall for bunshins time and time again, whether Jiraiya, Kakashi, or Naruto. Hell, Tsukuyomi could get the job done as well. And if Nagato fails to react, then Amaterasu would likely deal good damage to him.
It wasn't really that different. He engaged Itachi in a Taijutsu fight, while Nagato simply didn't allow him. It's not that Nagato is better or faster, it's that if he can react to Naruto, Bee and Sage mode Jiraya, he should do the same to Itachi. Also, you should know what a combination of Bansho Tennin and Human path does.
There isn't. Sasuke got more than touched, he got slapped all over the place by all his opponents. Lee was just overall stronger than Sasuke. The Raikage is insanely fast, but with the right measures, can be taken down. Nagato can just launch himself at Susanoo. Or he can just send it across the world with Itachi through ST and that would be a finisher.
Well, it does look like the damage can be done by the surrounding, but not all Toads hit a wall like that, nor did all those Jounins on the ground were buried by rubble. Nevertheless, that's a solid point, but even then it's still a deadly move regardless of where the damage come from.
Well, he did ask for help. And for a guy who does everything on his own, this pretty weird.
Er, anyone can react to someone jumping, which is precisely what Naruto did. He didn't go for hand-to-hand combat, Naruto just jumped and got caught by Nagato. If anything, he should be able to react to that. Hell, even Kabuto controlling Nagato should have been able to react to that. Once again, you can't use Naruto vs. ET Itachi and Naruto vs. ET Nagato to compare, as Naruto acted differently.Quote:
You should also know that the combination is useless if he doesn't get the real Itachi.
My point is that he was unable to take down either shinobi, and Raikage only because Raikage used a move that allowed Sasuke to touch him. Itachi can be untouchable if he plays his cards right.Quote:
Why would Nagato launch himself at Susano'o? That'd just allow Itachi to stab him with the Sword or use the Magatama (?) necklace.
Susano'o would protect ITachi from Shinra Tensei. Though, it'd probably be a loss due to Itachi bein off the battlefield kilometers away. Shinra Tensei without a hard landing won't keep Itachi down long enough.
But the toads did hit and slid across the ground. And those jounins did hit something, probably pretty hard. It's deadly based on what happens, not necessarily because of hte move itself.Quote:
why would he not utilize their power and risk it failing? Especially when a chapter later he lectures Naruto on doin everything on his own?Quote:
Nagato uses the Shinra Tensei that obliterated Konoha, gg.
You do know he'd be dead ten times over before he could use that jutsu, right? The amount of prep it took to use it... he had to fly into the air, power it up, and then launch it. And after that he couldn't use Shinra Tensei throughout the entirety of his fight against Naruto, till almost all his other bodies were dead. While he's sitting their prepping, what's stopping Itachi from just setting him aflame with Amaterasu? What's stopping his Karasu Bunshin from flying up high along with him and then launching an Amaterasu directly in his face (never been confirmed that Itachi's own clones can't use his MS jutsu. Just that that one that was created with a sacrifice). At the very least they can cast Genjutsu, meaning the jutsu can be stopped mid flight. You know. Assuming Itachi doesn't just seal him with the Totsuka while he's up there.Originally Posted by Uchiha_Blood
There is NO way in HELL Super ST can get trough Itachi's shield and his Susano... No way in bloody hell... If Nagato ends up shooting that his ST goes on cooldown and he is DEAD... If he does the Super ST is like comiting suicide.
Itachi would need to screw up BAD to not put up his Susano (that goes up faster then a lighting bolt can hit the ground) before he get's hit with Super ST...
Last edited by xXan; February 20, 2013 at 03:05 AM.
I think you misunderstand how Shinra Tensei works. Even with Susano'o, Itachi will be pushed back by the force of it.
And i think you do not understand how said shield works... That shield changes properties to react to any attack trown at him and makes said attack inefective... If anything ST would bounce off that mirror and hit Nagato in his face just like it happened with 6 tails and normal ST...Then asuming he get's trown back it becomes irrelevant as that would NOT damage Itachi that is chilling inside Susano...
Susano (with no mirror) could take a WAY more powerfull attack (kirin) and be just fine... Oh and yes it was more powefull as a lighting bolt would be concentrated on 1 point right on top of Susano compared to a ST that had its force spread out in a 360 degrees angle... I am sure as hell that little worm would not protect shit from a Kirin like it did to that Super ST...
Itachi does not even need his mirror to survive this...
The reason that nagato is able to use the rinnegan is for his uzumaki/senju blood but still those aren't his eyes and he doesn't have the uchiha blood and that especial chakra that uchihas got with them so i doubt nagato can use EMS techniques, kakashi doesn't have the uchihas blood and he can't turn it off and drained hos chakra...
And crow bushins are easily dispelled by Asura Realm abilities, or a lesser Shinra Tensei.
Hell just use the... Sparrow, or whatever it was to fly and to use as a shield from Amaterasu and blast him. He can sense the attack and has 1 canonical way ( Shinra Tensei ) and 1 non-canonical way ( Preta Path ) to deal with it.
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Emm no.. The entire MOUNTAIN:
it was a spiral like mountain that Kirin totaly anihilated.
The temple thing was on top of it:
This right here is the moutain:
In the end i hope you know the diferene between a focused attack and an attack that is spread out right? ST is not going to focus all its power on 1 point like Kirin... Its going to have its energy spread out in a 360 degrees pattern... Even if the ST can generate more force having its force disapated in a 360 degrees angle is going to end up generating way less force on Susano then Kirin as Kirin is going to have all its force focused on Susano.
Last edited by xXan; February 20, 2013 at 05:40 AM.