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    Re: Boa Hancock vs any other shichibukai

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    For starters, Her seduction petrification only works on idiots/fodders. Those of considerable strength would have a way around it. e.g the "Vice Admiral" that stabbed himself. There are arguably 2 "Idiots in the Shichibukai, BB and Moria".. BB does not have a normal body, has gotten WB power and therefore would be absolutely useless against him. Whitebeard used his power to shatter Aokiji's ice when he froze him so the part about BB is settled. He would utterly destroy Hancock.
    Hancock doesn't require "seduction" in order to petrify somebody. Also, the VA she almost one-shotted was forced to kneel before Hancock in order to avoid petrification, but that action left wide open to other attacks such as Perfume Femur. Bottom line with Hancock is that engaging in physical contact with her is suicide, and even then there is no guarantee that the opponent can avoid petrification thanks to Hancock's ranged attacks.

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    Re: Boa Hancock vs any other shichibukai

    Quote Originally Posted by Franckie View Post
    Hancock doesn't require "seduction" in order to petrify somebody. Also, the VA she almost one-shotted was forced to kneel before Hancock in order to avoid petrification, but that action left wide open to other attacks such as Perfume Femur. Bottom line with Hancock is that engaging in physical contact with her is suicide, and even then there is no guarantee that the opponent can avoid petrification thanks to Hancock's ranged attacks.
    I never said she absolutely "requires" seduction to petrify her opponent. I was referring to instances where the opponent being seduced/charmed by her beauty is easily petrified which like I said before would only work on fodders.

    My 2 cents on hancock is I just feel she's getting too much hype without actually being in any serious fights yet.

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    Re: Boa Hancock vs any other shichibukai

    Quote Originally Posted by MazzinKaizer View Post
    I never said she absolutely "requires" seduction to petrify her opponent. I was referring to instances where the opponent being seduced/charmed by her beauty is easily petrified which like I said before would only work on fodders.
    Avoiding said attack is easier said than done considering how it almost one-shotted Momonga. Or are you willing to argue that a Vice Admiral counts as fodder?

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    My 2 cents on hancock is I just feel she's getting too much hype without actually being in any serious fights yet.
    Hancock has been overrated before, but the opposite - her being underrated - is true as well. And serious fights are not always required to have a rough idea on how strong a character is. Jinbei, Doflamingo, and Mihawk haven't had any major fights yet, but we have proof that their status is well-deserved. Hancock too has the hype, statements, and feats to place her in the same league as her peers.

    A reasonable estimate as to her exact level would be between the level of WB's Captains (Marco, Ace, Jozu, etc.) and the level of the 3 Admirals. How she'd fair in a match would be dependent on match-ups. For example, Hancock would have an easier time with Jinbei than she would with Doflamingo.

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    Re: Boa Hancock vs any other shichibukai

    Well, we have yet to see the full extent of hancock's power so it really is hard to rate her power accurately. She is someone who has mastered all haki types, has a fruit with very versatile abilities (she has shown a variety of attacks outside of petrifying people) and her strength was even praised to a high regard by sengoku. I think her strength should be enough for anyone in OP world to be wary of it and I would not find it strange if she still was stronger than luffy (not necessarily by a bit or by a lot though, it could go either way).
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    Re: Boa Hancock vs any other shichibukai

    Quote Originally Posted by hy4k View Post
    So far all of the shichibukai we've seen have one ability that is very impressive. crocodile, moria, doflamingo, kuma and blackbeard all have badass devil fruits. jinbei and mihawk have mastery over a fighting style.

    but hancock has

    -Expertise in all three forms of Haki including kings
    -Mastery of an unnamed leg based martial that lets her kick ass sanji style
    -a badass devil fruit power that lets her turn enemies into stone with one hit, fire energy based projectiles and shoot thousands of lethal arrows at once


    is she the most powerful shichibukai? if not why not?
    mihawk,jinbe,kuma,dof , i think these guys can beat hancock , and i never saw, hancock has mantra(kenbunshoku haki) where did it came from ?

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    Re: Boa Hancock vs any other shichibukai

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    mihawk,jinbe,kuma,dof , i think these guys can beat hancock , and i never saw, hancock has mantra(kenbunshoku haki) where did it came from ?
    her sisters were possesing this type of haki, naturally we concluded that she also posses this type of haki cause in fact, she is hightier than them and remember when Sentomarou try to hit her with his axe, she easily dodged it..

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    Re: Boa Hancock vs any other shichibukai

    Quote Originally Posted by xeteboi View Post
    her sisters were possesing this type of haki, naturally we concluded that she also posses this type of haki cause in fact, she is hightier than them and remember when Sentomarou try to hit her with his axe, she easily dodged it..
    Good job using your imagination to make up scenes that don't exist.

    @Shuusui: Though I suppose it's never been explicitly stated she has mastered all 3 forms of haki, she possesses the rarest type of haki and comes from an island where haki is well known and commonly used even by their weaklings. It's from this that everyone has drawn assumptions of her haki ability. It's a fair and logical arguement.

    To somewhat wade into this battle: I couldn't see BB, Mihawk or Doflamingo losing to Hancock. Kuma is either very broken or extremely disappointing at times since the PX0, so it's hard to rate his actual strength, but I would rate her about this level. Jinbe is probably also around this level, if not below. Crocodile and Moria, no chance (in before Crocodile fanboys tell me how he's unbeatable).

    So generally, I'd agree with Franckie's estimate that Hancock is on par with some top tier WB division commanders. This estimate, in my eyes, holds perfectly true in estimating that she could indeed defeat Croc, Moria and Jinbe, but would be in trouble against BB, Dofla and Mihawk. And that's nothing to be ashamed of, since to me those 3 Shichibukai are late game bosses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MazzinKaizer View Post
    OMG! I can't believe what I have been reading. Are you guys actually for real? Hancock defeat BB??? Give Mihawk a tough time??? Pawn any other shichi???

    For starters, Her seduction petrification only works on idiots/fodders. Those of considerable strength would have a way around it. e.g the "Vice Admiral" that stabbed himself. There are arguably 2 "Idiots in the Shichibukai, BB and Moria".. BB does not have a normal body, has gotten WB power and therefore would be absolutely useless against him. Whitebeard used his power to shatter Aokiji's ice when he froze him so the part about BB is settled. He would utterly destroy Hancock.

    Mihawk is a disciplined samurai who is 'for now' perceived as Shank's equal and his reputation is no joke. He obliterated Don Creig's crew and whopped pre grandline zoro with a Knife. He would also utterly destroy Hancock. They are just not in the same league.

    That leaves us with Crocodile, Kuma, Doflamingo, Jimbei and Moria. Of the 5, the two Hancock should have the upperhand against is Moria with respect to what we've seen of Moria and Jimbei "On Land". Jimbei is a beast in water.

    We have not seen Kuma and Doflamingo in a serious fight....
    Yes Croc lost to luffy but only in very special circumstances, after supposedly leaving luffy for dead. Same thing with Enel. Luffy was nowhere near their level but just had to win.
    Croc was able to hold his own against mihawk during the war though for a short while and they did not go all out against each other. If you say Hancock has haki, she's not a Logia and Vice Versa for Croc...
    Simply put, Croc is still a very wild card and a fight between him and Hancock could go either way.

    Kuma's DF powers (the real kuma and not ROBO Kuma) are one of the most varied and impressive in the one piece world. He can teleport whatever he touches, has the shock thingy move which is very destructive, can transfer damage like he did to Zoro. He and Doflamingo were the ones that messed up Big Ol Oars Junior.

    Doflamingo is still an unknown but from the little we've seen of him, is also no joke. I would give both Kuma and Doflamingo the upperhand in a fight against Hancock.

    The only person Hancock is rather sure of defeating in a 1V1 is Moria, not because he is weaker(I believe his powers are more impressive) but because he is more of an Idiot.

    Probability of defeating..
    BB ___________0%(no chance)
    Mihawk________0%(no chance)
    Kuma_________40%(slightly disadvantaged)
    Doflamingo_____40%(slightly disadvantaged)
    Croco_________50%(equal chance)
    Moria__________60%(upperhand)
    Jimbei(On Land)__60%(upperhand)
    Jimbei(In Water)__0%(no chance)

    P.S. Having King's Haki does not matter when fighting someone of equal or considerable strength to the Haki user. WB who had King's Haki did not use anything of the sort while fighting Akainu. Same with Rayleigh and Kizaru. Shank's Haki had no effect on the top tier pirates on WB ship.
    there so many things wrong with this

    1.BB.............hancocks petrification is completely different thn aokijis's(he only frezes from the outside) her powers however literally turns u to stone hence u have no chance to counter after u have been petrified (thts why people keep losing their memory after being turn to stone.). and u kno nothin of BB body so dont include it.

    2.Mihawk......... So wht if he beat a bunch of nobodies with ease. oda stated to one of his penpal fans tht the only way to for her DF to not work is for the person to b completely oblivious to her being beautiful ( i kno mihawk can c and hes no idiot unlike luffy) so discipline doesnt matter.

    3.Croc.......was defeated by luffy because of the water and luffy's physical skills at tht time.hancock has haki-no need for water,and she was 10x stronger faster and more versatile thn luffy was at tht time. (probaly more thn 10x).And hold his own? they only clashed 'blades' once.

    4. kuma...........since hes now fully a cyborg her powers will work regardless and are u forgeting tht she can predict movement so teleporting wont b a big deal and something like ursos shock tht takes so much time to do wud b suicide in front of her.

    5.DOFLAMINGO.... is my favourite character so no comment...............hed win though


    6.moria.........he jus sucks without thriller all his little tricks wud b meaningless b4 haki's ablility to predict movement and its ability to cancel DF

    P.S the kings haki does shows u tht ur potential concerning hakis potential will b greater thn those who do not posses it tht and knock out weak ass people.

    oh P.S. again i didnt say she wud beat everyone jus tht she can

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    Re: Boa Hancock vs any other shichibukai

    Quote Originally Posted by BoobsMakeMeHappy View Post
    there so many things wrong with this

    1.BB.............hancocks petrification is completely different thn aokijis's(he only frezes from the outside) her powers however literally turns u to stone hence u have no chance to counter after u have been petrified (thts why people keep losing their memory after being turn to stone.). and u kno nothin of BB body so dont include it.

    2.Mihawk......... So wht if he beat a bunch of nobodies with ease. oda stated to one of his penpal fans tht the only way to for her DF to not work is for the person to b completely oblivious to her being beautiful ( i kno mihawk can c and hes no idiot unlike luffy) so discipline doesnt matter.

    3.Croc.......was defeated by luffy because of the water and luffy's physical skills at tht time.hancock has haki-no need for water,and she was 10x stronger faster and more versatile thn luffy was at tht time. (probaly more thn 10x).And hold his own? they only clashed 'blades' once.

    4. kuma...........since hes now fully a cyborg her powers will work regardless and are u forgeting tht she can predict movement so teleporting wont b a big deal and something like ursos shock tht takes so much time to do wud b suicide in front of her.

    5.DOFLAMINGO.... is my favourite character so no comment...............hed win though


    6.moria.........he jus sucks without thriller all his little tricks wud b meaningless b4 haki's ablility to predict movement and its ability to cancel DF

    P.S the kings haki does shows u tht ur potential concerning hakis potential will b greater thn those who do not posses it tht and knock out weak ass people.

    oh P.S. again i didnt say she wud beat everyone jus tht she can

    I was gonna post my own long reply but you saved me the time by saying everything i wanted to say.thank you sir.hancock can kill everyone of them.yes even mihawk....even vice admiral momonga fell victim to mero mero no mi.sengoku personally acknowledged her strength.She was willing to attack aokiji during the war before marko intervened and she left the war unscathed.the only wild card is really doflamingo since we do not know his true power or its limits andBB due to his hax dfs and plot protection.Hancock FTW!!!!Yay!!!(Fanboy goes into a mero mero stone state)
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    Re: Boa Hancock vs any other shichibukai

    Quote Originally Posted by xeteboi View Post
    remember when Sentomarou try to hit her with his axe, she easily dodged it.
    Though the implicit suggestion is that Hancock and Sentomaru had a skirmish (at least, I personally think so), we never saw them exchange anything but words.

    Hancock is difficult to pin down, as we haven't seen much of her capacities, much less the extent of them. I do, however, agree that it's safe to assume that she possess Kenbunshoku Haki, in addition to the other two forms. Likewise, Bartholomew is hard to judge, especially after his process into a Pacifista was completed.

    That being said, I think Hancock would defeat Crocodile with little and less difficulty, and Moriah wouldn't put up much of a fight. Jinbe, she would have some trouble with, but she would emerge victorious, and a fight could go either way between her and Bartholomew (I view them roughly equals). Against (post-Gura) Blackbeard, she would loose after a fierce fight; Mihawk and Doflamingo (to a lesser extent) would decisively defeat her.

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    Re: Boa Hancock vs any other shichibukai

    Quote Originally Posted by MazzinKaizer View Post

    My 2 cents on hancock is I just feel she's getting too much hype without actually being in any serious fights yet.
    She's getting the hype because she have Haoshoku, so far, only strong and very famous people have it (Roger/Rayleigh/Shanks/WB), it is a sign that she's really something. Even Rayleigh admitted that, while she didn't show us anything really that impressive in the war, I still believe that she's extremely strong.

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