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    Theory On The Reason Pacifista Kuma Appeared Again In Shabondy

    This is my theory on the reason the Pacifista Kuma returns to Shabondy in front of the Sunny-Go.

    I believe that Kuma is their to measure how much the Strawhat Pirates have grown after he has sent them off to respective training areas.

    Being that he is now a complete Pacifista, I believe that he will protect the ship until he is destroyed by the new Strawhat Pirates.

    If anyone has already posted some theory like this, i apologize.

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    Re: Theory On The Reason Pacifista Kuma Appeared Again In Shabondy

    Interesting, but I sincerely doubt it. Kuma is now a Pacisfita, and is no longer conscious. I mean, he said goodbye to Luffy, went to speak to Rayleigh saying that he hasn't got much time left ant then attacked Iva during the war.
    BUT what's possible is that Vegapunk is a RA leader (cooperating prisoner like bonney) or that Kuma gave intel to the RA while beeing modified with a notice to unmodify him lol.
    Whatever, he now isn't friendly to ths SH crew and retrieving the Sunny go will be the next arc, small or not, that's for sure

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    Re: Theory On The Reason Pacifista Kuma Appeared Again In Shabondy

    Well, my theory (with no basis whatsoever) is that before his final modification which turned him into a complete pacifista he asked for an order for himself to be programmed into him. Basically, as a last wish he asked to be programmed to look for the sunny so that he could take it somewhere safer.
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    Re: Theory On The Reason Pacifista Kuma Appeared Again In Shabondy

    Hm... I used to have the impression that Vegapunk was one of those scientists who became engrossed in the pursuit of knowledge and corrupted to work for the World Government since they could fund his projects.

    However, after reading Franky's seperation series, I got the feeling that Vegapunk used to (maybe still is) be a very nice person who wanted to help his people. Especially since they mentioned how he would cry as a child since he couldn't finish his projects that were meant to make like on the winter island easier.

    So, it's not that far-fetched to think that maybe he retained that kind nature and is secretly a mole or something.

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    Re: Theory On The Reason Pacifista Kuma Appeared Again In Shabondy

    i dought that he sent anything to the RA, cause when IVA talked to dragon after the war, he mentioned Kum to Dragon and he knew nothing about it... So i dought that he gave them any plans to turn him back... The fact that he let himself lose his concious and become a complete pacifista is still a mystery though, i mean who wants to lose there mind and not be in control of themselves anymore especially if your that strong and also on the side of good that works againts the WG... I think this will be explained in more detail after the time skip but not at the starting arc.

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    Re: Theory On The Reason Pacifista Kuma Appeared Again In Shabondy

    my guess is that kuma was order by the world nobles to obtain the sunny go in order to set a trap for the straw hats. I believe that shakky and the flying fishmen guys are trappet at the marine base at SA. I also believe that the vivre card is with shakky so the straw hat crew will reunite at the marine base.

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    Re: Theory On The Reason Pacifista Kuma Appeared Again In Shabondy

    its not possible...

    first thing, kuma sent them to those particular locations bcos he wanted them to be stronger. i guess he knew completely that it would take them longer than 3 days, assuming thats when kuma reappeared in shabondy... besides, kuma wouldnt know about the vivre cards and stuff, cos he isnt kuma anymore. the only trait that makes him unique from a pacifista is that he uses the paw paw fruit.


    i think this pacifista has reached there by the order of the WG. in case shakky was harmed, it gives the strawhats a reason for revenge, and then their strengths...
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    Re: Theory On The Reason Pacifista Kuma Appeared Again In Shabondy

    Since it's unknown if Kuma has truly been "transformed" into PX-0 and is a mindless Pacifista it's hard to say. But I'd say that Kuma likely won't kill Shakky and destroy Sunny or anything. But I'll hold on that until we find out what Dragon has to say about Kuma.. Or see the SH face Kuma as their first challenge....? Hmmm...


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    Re: Theory On The Reason Pacifista Kuma Appeared Again In Shabondy

    Shakky was a pirate i doubt she would get taken down easy, considering where she lives and all. As for Kuma, i dont know 2 years is a very long time to wait And he wouldn't know that its going to take 2 years either. I cant really see why anyone would wait on an empty ship for 2 years at all really. Itll probably be in use for something elts when they find it.

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    Re: Theory On The Reason Pacifista Kuma Appeared Again In Shabondy

    I think Kuma thought about this before. To avoid him being used too much from the government, He asked before being completely changed to have the mission of fighting the Mugiwaras. In order to do that, He will be next to the ship, and only that.
    He did that to be destroyed by them, as a way to be sure that They will be able to reach the New World and conquer the seas.
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    Re: Theory On The Reason Pacifista Kuma Appeared Again In Shabondy

    Someone posted a theory here that i really liked. Kuma whether or not he can still think for himself is going to the ship inorder to send it to franky so he can upgrade it with what he found in vegapunks lab

    I have a theory that the idea of vegapunk trying to melt the ice in his country will somehow get implimented into the thousand sunny so it will truely be a ship that can travel any seas, it will also help them against aokiji.

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    Re: Theory On The Reason Pacifista Kuma Appeared Again In Shabondy

    hhhmmm, i like that thought of him working on the ship for two years, but i just don't see Kuma in his current state doin that. it just doesn't fit in the story that well to me... but you could possibly be right...

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    Re: Theory On The Reason Pacifista Kuma Appeared Again In Shabondy

    I do think Kuma is now completly with the World Government
    He will wait patiently the return of the strawhat even if it takes 2 years.
    Maybe he will hibernate
    Anyway he is a robot so it does not care for him to wait
    He will not touch the ship because it is garantee to make the strawhat come to him
    I think there will be battle to get the ship back and to show the new strawhat strenght
    Maybe Franky will find some good information about how to beat a Pacifista
    his weakpoint?

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    Re: Theory On The Reason Pacifista Kuma Appeared Again In Shabondy

    The main issue is that Franky can probably not travel with the thousand sunny alone, and so far he has only a grandpa a kid and a dog to help him. So I don't think it's a good theory.
    Before the 2 years time skip I would have said that Kuma was a threat but now I'm not 100% sure of that anymore. Except if the first thing that the new strawhat will have to do is take their ship back, but that would mean that shakky, keimie and the others have been imprisonned for 2 years and I don't like it

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    Re: Theory On The Reason Pacifista Kuma Appeared Again In Shabondy

    Quote Originally Posted by k-dom View Post
    The main issue is that Franky can probably not travel with the thousand sunny alone, and so far he has only a grandpa a kid and a dog to help him. So I don't think it's a good theory.
    Before the 2 years time skip I would have said that Kuma was a threat but now I'm not 100% sure of that anymore. Except if the first thing that the new strawhat will have to do is take their ship back, but that would mean that shakky, keimie and the others have been imprisonned for 2 years and I don't like it
    You know that just got me thinking...what if Franky learns from reading those old, lab blueprints on how to make fully, functional cyborgs/robots to work for him? or aid him in whatever he wants? He could travel back to SA with an Ice Breaker ship (that he made or found, repaired and upgraded) with a few of those robots to help him sail back to SA? Kinda cool imo.

    As for the Kuma situation - I don't think Rayleigh would leave Shakky & co alone if he knew Kuma's intentions. So I say they're safe for the time being. Maybe, the WG's programming of PX-Zero still has some kind of glitch and allows the real Tyrant Kuma "to come back to life" and take control over his body, memory and actions for a limited period of time???
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