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    Naruto and Sasuke vs Kages

    Naruto - curent version.
    Sasuke - curent version.

    Kages:
    http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/563/15
    They start at 100% obviously but Raikge is -1 hand.
    Old Kages:
    http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/546/7
    Not ET versions, they are ALIVE.

    Naruto's team get's 15 minutes of prep so Naruto can pop clones, chat with Sasuke and whatever else. The Kages don't have line of sight with Naruto/Sasuke before the 15 minutes are done. Naruto is not alowed to summon frogs and start the frog song in this "free time". Sasuke is not allowed to prep Kirin in this time.
    Big AOE jutsus (like Jinton used on Madara, Flashdama, huge wall of sand etc) are not allowed in the first 10 seconds of the fight.

    Nobody can fly more then 6 meters above the ground (Naruto/Sasuke can't fly and Kage's team can put everybody in the sky and nuke...Sasuke's hawk is not goint to be enough obviously).

    Naruto is going to work as a team with Sasuke including following tactics and what not, same goes for Sasuke. No curent "i hate you" BS. :P
    Naruto is not going to start speeches and do the best he can to put the enemy team down, same goes for the rest.

    Fight takes place in a forest.

    Considering the number of things the Kages can pull off its hard for me to think if its balanced. Naruto with Kurama is damn broken but can he, with the help of Sasuke take out all the Kages?
    Last edited by xXan; November 08, 2012 at 04:57 AM.

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    Re: Narurto and Sasuke vs Kages

    Kages. Quite simply, the fastest ninja in the manga is Piggyback Raikage and Tsuchikage. Raikage, without clones, managed to hit Madara in both the front and back almost at the same time thanks to Tsuchikage's jinton speeding him up. He also knocked Madara far away while he was in his Susanoo with this combination. This means he can hit anyone out there with Susanoo busting attacks in the blink of an eye, and since Naruto's clones can still die from one hit blows Raikage literally runs through them all.

    Even worse? Oonoki can make clones. He gives each team member a clone of himself, lets each clone boost everyone's speed, and instantly EVERYONE on the battlefield has Raikage-like speed except Sasuke. And Naruto can't deal with that. Because both Naruto and Sasuke have fought a Raikage they likely would want to goe after him first. This gives the other Kage time to prep the Piggyback plan while they're trying to hit him. And that's all it takes.

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    Re: Narurto and Sasuke vs Kages

    Kages aren't winning that easy if naruto and Sasuke are prepping for 15 and are working out tactics. Naruto could use his BM cloak which I highly doubt is getting blitzed fom piggy back raikage, Sasuke sets an Amaterasu ring around them for protection meaning no charging in. It's a rather difficult battle especially with jinton in the mix, I say the beat the current kages but not the past


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    Re: Narurto and Sasuke vs Kages

    Imo,Naruto wins against 5 Kages+Sasuke
    btw,Sasuke is quite weak, considering how the 5 kages were quite offensive against madara until he made clones and susanoo in full form,sasuke doesn't stand a chance(also takes his rather limited chakara into account),the smart side of him is not going to be useful because it's 5v1 he doesn't know the ability of kages well.
    I think he can fight 2~3 kages at the same time at most.

    Naruto kicks everyone ass because he can probably talk no jutsu everyone. Also,Naruto will master the skill to outspeed Raikage(if he didn't) during battle because of his will of fire, but still, it's not enough to win. Sasuke will beat him to half dead because sasuke can read his movement and he just knows him too well. However,it doesn't change anything,naruto will unleash his will of fire to the fullest and make an one-hit KO move(probably just a punch or thousand years of pain) ,it's gonna work because everyone thought he's losing.
    Last edited by lolnameless; November 08, 2012 at 03:00 PM.

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    Re: Narurto and Sasuke vs Kages

    Wait, both old and current kage?

    Damn, they take this one, most likely.
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    Re: Narurto and Sasuke vs Kages

    9 kages against 2?
    Too much even for those two, imho.

    Even though, if Sasuke and Naruto can manage to kill Oonoki and Muu right off the bat, then only Tsunade and Third Raikage would have the means to wound them, and while Niidaime Mizukage's genjutsu would be annoying, Sasuke can have his portable Sage Naruto to sense the battlefield.
    And, with the aid of clones physically blocking others, Sasuke can pretty much kill half of the Kages easily with Amaterasu bullets, while the other half would fall either by Susano'o or Bijuu mode.
    The only foe that would require their full might would be, imho, Third Raikage.

    Still I'd say Kages take this 8 times out of 10

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    Re: Narurto and Sasuke vs Kages

    What do you mean 2? The way i look at it the numbers are in Naruto's favor. Even going with 13 RM clones and he has 13 Kages on his back... Then he can trow Flashdama's that are easy more powerfull then Jintons... I mean its as powerfull as 5 biju's putting there mojo togeder.

    Problem with Naruto is in the brains departemant but having Sasuke formulating the plan (15 minutes time) its more then enough to put something togeder.

    Raikage teaming up with Tsuck is also not a problem. They are not faster then RM lvl 2 Naruto.

    @ninjabot

    Oonoki can't give people Raikage like speed man... He can make them lighter... At best he can make them move as fast as the old man can fly but Raikge like speed? Like what?
    Last edited by xXan; November 09, 2012 at 05:36 AM.

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    Re: Narurto and Sasuke vs Kages

    If there wasn't prep time for Naruto and Sasuke, I might see the Kages taking it. But with prep time to start the battle with Naruto probably just stocking up clones and going Bijuu mode, I don't see this going anyway but Naruto & Sasuke winning. Naruto's clones, and Sasuke, keep the Jinton users busy long enough for Naruto to get his Flashdama off before they get off their Jintons after the time limit is up. Battle end.

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    Re: Narurto and Sasuke vs Kages

    I'm just curious, does it possible for sasuke to fuel naruto's frs with his amaterasu? That would be awesome.

    But anyway, it's a win for naruto and sasuke.

    Naruto's clones, summons, ma and pa and kyubi's chakra + sasuke'susanoo, amaterasu and kirin.

    Ma and pa could fly on sasuke's hawk while gathering a senjutsu chakra.

    Sasuke had his susanoo with 2/4 hands, while naruto has the kyubi's shield with 9 hands. They can grab the kages with their extra arms and slam them to the ground.

    The nine kages can't win against the unpredictable partner.

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    Re: Narurto and Sasuke vs Kages

    If anyone hadn't thought of it,

    Two Raikage's, Two Sand Users, Tsunade, Two Jinton users, Two Mist Ninja. How is this battle plausible?

    Ok let's say this fight was broken up, A goes down to Amaterasu and Elder Raikage goes down to a barrage of Minirasenshuriken and bijuudama.
    Naruto could possibly speed blitz Gaara and his father and take them out with a rasenshuriken or bijuudama.
    Sasuke can take out Tsunade with Amaterasu.

    Now here's where it get's tricky, can naruto's sensing work on Muu? If not sasuke is forced to fight Muu cause the sharingan has a slim chance of seeing through his technique. Amaterasu is the key to victory versus the Jinton users.

    The mist users might prove troublesome for sasuke, but naruto could sense them in the mist. Although Jouki boy might do tons of damage to naruto if he's not careful, then there's lava and acid.
    Naruto's sealing-cloak is ugly, he needs to finish his chakra agreement with kyuubi already!

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    Re: Narurto and Sasuke vs Kages

    Quote Originally Posted by xXan
    Oonoki can't give people Raikage like speed man... He can make them lighter... At best he can make them move as fast as the old man can fly but Raikge like speed? Like what?
    Depends entirely on how light he makes the ninja with his Jinton. Raikage's speed looked like it doubled thanks to the Jinton being added to him. Meaning if all the kage double their speed they'll be running at Raikage's base Raiton Armor speed (without powering up). Except Sandaime Raikage. He'll be almost as fast as his son. Maybe equal, but I doubt it.

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    Re: Narurto and Sasuke vs Kages

    @ninjabot


    Double? Raikage was already "teleporting" about the battlefield vs Sasuke. A man with Sasuke speed could only use instant defence to protect himself... How much faster did you see him go? What did you use to gauge this increase in speed? All we know is that it was an increase but double?

    Now we have also 3 other problems:

    1-This:
    http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/563/12
    2- If he makes them to light then they can't run at all. Even a blow of wind is enough to send them to another state.
    3-There is no evidence he can make anybody more light then the Raikage.

    Now the best thing he can give the peeps is how fast Oonoki is in the air(going by the above link when Oonoki punches Kabuto). That is fast but not Raikage fast.

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    Re: Narurto and Sasuke vs Kages

    If I recall, Tsuchikage making anyone lighter also reduces their power. Kabuto said that his punches became lighter when he decreased his own weight to move faster to the point that he didn't worry when RaiTsuchikage punched Madara (?). So unless Tsuchikage is on everyone's back, him increasing everyone's speed would do more damage than good because they'd lack strength. At least, the ones who fight primarily with taijutsu. Sasuke wouldn't even need Susano'o to tank either Raikage's blows.
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    Re: Narurto and Sasuke vs Kages

    @M3J

    Yes his punching power (no idea about the rest) is decreased. Provided the link just above your post.

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    Re: Narurto and Sasuke vs Kages

    It does weaken blows, but you forget: Tsuchikage can also make things heavy. The way Raikage managed to knock Madara around is because Tsuchikage made him super light to increase his speed, and then super heavy at the last second so that the blow would hit far harder.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/563/13 LOL, all you had to do was turn ONE page over and you would've seen it.

    http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Earth_R...Rock_Technique So not only will every kage on the battlefield be moving at double speed, but they will be punching with near Tsunade-level strength.

    Kage's take this comfortably if they use my strategy.


    Quote Originally Posted by xXan
    Double? Raikage was already "teleporting" about the battlefield vs Sasuke. A man with Sasuke speed could only use instant defence to protect himself... How much faster did you see him go? What did you use to gauge this increase in speed? All we know is that it was an increase but double?
    Raikage was only teleporting with his max speed. But he wasn't using his max speed against Madara, and he still hit 2 different targets in the blink of an eye. Well, may may have actually been at his max speed. Either way, he traveled a long distance in between the two blows. All of Raikage's previous speed blitzes were in inclosed areas where he didn't have far to move.

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