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Translations: Bleach 595 (2)
Note: this also explains the hunger of shinigami and hollows; pluses haven't divided their soul, so all of their energy is part of their body. Shinigami/hollows basically shove half of their power into their mask/zanpakutou, whereas vizards shove 2/3 of their power into their mask and zanpakutou. The reason why Ichigo probably became so powerful with the FGT is because all of his energy was now put back into his body, allowing him to release as much as he wanted.
Last edited by Lee.J.Baxter; October 21, 2010 at 04:10 PM.
So what are the chances ichigo develops new powers? Should we believe that he's just gonna go back to the same old shikai and bankai? Or will things be different some how?
This thread needs revival . So we see a group of people who wants to restore Ichigo's powers. First of all, we do they want to restore Ichigo's powers? DO they want something in return? Most of all, does it mean they know about FGT and its effect? Has there been other shinigamis who had similarly lost powers? The introduction, of Xcution brings lots of interesting questions.
About the method of reviving the powers, are we in for another inner-world journey. I have always believed that Zangetsu never left Ichigo. Rather he went into an exile sort of of state. Can anyone think of any other method? If Zangetsu still resides within Ichigo then I think he can not let him die. Perhaps a life threatening situation may entice Zangetsu to save Ichigo, as Ichigo's existence means Zangetsu's existence.
Another method could be involving his Hollow. How I do not know, I am trying to make sense of this theory, if I can.
I wonder if this people had anything to do with ishin regaining his powers. The manga has not actually given any indication that what happened with ishin was the result of a 20 year long natural process. It is entirely possible ishin got some help. Not sure how ichigo would regain his powers though. His situation is probably not even comparable to that of uryu considering uryu could at least see spirits when he lost his powers. Ichigo should also be pretty much unable to access his inner world for the most part....
Wonder if the reiatsu orihime and uryu noticed around ichigo was actually the beginning of the process? I recall orihime's power said they awoke because orihime was constantly showered by ichigo's reiatsu so perhaps the same could apply to ichigo to some extent. Putting him under some reiatsu could perhaps be the trigger for him to unconsciously fight it back and regain it. I can't really think of anything else though.
I don't think zangetsu died or anything of the sort and such a thing is not really possible in the least. Zangetsu/shirosaki is an inherent part of ichigo's soul. I don't think zangetsu could disappear without actually harming ichigo seriously. I think zangetsu right now is in a situation comparable to that when ichigo had yet to awaken his power. He could not hear zangetsu's voice, he could not use his power either... I do think this is more of a deeper thing though, his very reiatsu seems to have been sealed or lost.
Personaly i hope the training is going to be very short ... I realy don't whant ichigo going trough the same stuff all over again just so he can get his powers back ...
One thing is for sure, Ichigo is going to go trough some life threatening situation (like when he got his real shinigami powers).
Also its most defenetly sure he is not going to get his god level abilities back (the ones just before FGT) or the bad guys/good guys wold have to be better then all the captains put togeder and that would be realy lame.
The large room in xcution's home is most definitely for Ichigo's training.
Now how would they actualy go about training him and how much of his powers he is going to get back is up in the air for me.
lol the only way to get ichigos power back is to wack inoe to scream for ichigo : KUROSAKI KUN TASKE TE, and you will witness ichi going bankai from this inept state at ease.
remember when he was shot down by cero obscura he came back from death hearing the shout of inoe, this inept state is nothing in compared to that
But yeah it would be interesting to see what would happen if Inoue would start screaming. Perhaps someone killing her or one of his friends in front of him ? Like when Naruto got 6 tails when Hinata "died". This is actualy very intersting. What would happen if Ichigo would get this level of stimuli?
lol man you took me seriously? seriously if sth so generic happens then bleach literary has gone as downhill as it can get.Quote:
I honestly have no idea if powers would return to shinigami/hollow since Ichigo fused his hollow and zangetsu into 1 being. I wish to believe that Ichigo could get a entirely new zanpaktou and inner world but thats already been proven wrong by Isshin who shortly after recovering his powers used a Getsuga Tenshou on Aizen with great mastery and also had deep background information about his own zanpaktou and his son.
I didn't say ichigo didn't suffer serious harm though, I just think zangetsu wasn't actually ripped out of ichigo's soul. Zangetsu is an inherent part of ichigo's soul, he is not a different person from ichigo(he has his own personality though). Movies and fillers aside, I don't think it is actually possible for zangetsu to die without ichigo going through the same thing given that zangetsu in many ways is ichigo and is an inherent part of ichigo.
Last edited by kkck; December 20, 2010 at 05:47 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
It was revealed that tensa wanted to protect above all else ichigo and that by learning the FGT he would no longer be able to protect ichigo.
~~ now as to what you referenced in your post, I also think that zangetsu never left ichigo, and resides within him. I also think back to when zangetsu told ichigo that it rains in his inner world when ichigos mind is troubled, and this was confirmed when ichigo entered the FGT training, his mind was underwater, because of all his lifelong crappy mental state that the once beatiful city was now underwater. SO..
I think that zangetsu is dying inside ichigo, and that no mere near death experience will call out zangetsu, and have him save ichigo, ::: Rather I think that ichigo will need to have the near death experience just to get into his inner world, and from that point he will need to rescue zangetsu, from ...himself. Ichigos mindset lately, since he used the FGT must be just killing tensa zangetsu one day at a time. I think that once ichigo gets into his inner world and sees zangetsu suffering because of his own crappy mindset that he will re-ignite his spirit and will regain his power saving zangetsu from ..again, basically himself.
If ichigos FGT were lasting, meaning that once achieved it stayed that way, then he would be uber powerful and who could challenge him? so i think that its fitting that he gets to use it but then looses it.
but really the rest is up for speculation because only tite knows for sure.
Now Aizen could have eventualy Kill him (if not for Urahara's seal and FGT) but that is because Aizen was immortal and Ichigo could not outlast him or do any damage to him (that Aizen can't regenerate). Anything else but Aizen with the hogyoku would be completly destroyed ... Hell Ichigo could have destroyed all of SS.
Ichigo is going to get his powers back ... but he is not going to get that level back or Kishi would have to somehow increase all the other caracters powers to (to some insane level).
Look at Isshin. He does not have his full powers back and i assume Ichi is going to get the same deal.