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Translations: Gintama 510 (2)
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-419-2/n...apter-414.html. It is safe to assume that she can tell the difference between different types of chakra's, including their aura and Bjus.
As tails are nothing but extensions of Bijus own chakra - that is red in aura and is said to be sinister - I cannot see how she couldn't tell that it was just a leg.
Look at the size of Team Taka in comparison. Not even sure how you got puny from those links when Team Taka is shown as tiny dots. And how is using head size pathetic when it shows it in comparison to a person? Not to mention I also showed him in comparison to Gamabunta.
whole Bijuu Blast training, which was shown using both Yin and Yang to form it.
Um, I not sure how that proves anything, since the situations were clearly different. The Hachibi wasn't drawing upon it's own life force to create the Bijuu Blast. Every other time we've seen the Kyuubi create a Bijuu Blast, it's of similar size as the Hachibi's was.
It is done, because I'm using actual evidence, not trying to make things up.
taking complete control and binding the Edo summon to one's will requires the user to know the Edo summon's skills to fight effectively. Kabuto choose otherwise to allow his Edo summons to fully fight their own way.
Don't think so, but weren't we talking about Danzou's body or stamina and comparing it to Hiruzen's due to age?
He didn't have a kekkei genkai or special powers, and he did age quite a bit.
Only by teleporting it away. Without Hiraishin, the Kyuubi would have blown apart Konoha with the bijuu bomb, and Minato would have been helpless for hte most part. And yes, Kakuzu and HIdan did have special power to deal with the bijuu... we even see Hidan using it to take out that jinchuuriki.Quote:
So? How would he have stopped the bijuu bomb if he didn't have Hiraishin? I think only Hashirama could have done that for sure.
He sealed yang (or yin?) chakra away, not half of its chakra. Why would Minato waste time sealing half of Kyuubi's chakra away if it could regenerate?Quote:
Maybe that's how powerful it is at half power, and its full power could be so much more powerful than all eight bijuu combined. Kyuubi was said to be the strongest bijuu ever, second to Juubi.Quote:
People like Zabuza wanted to be careful, since there were clans and animals that could detect their scent. If a ninja could divert his chakra to his nose,t hen why did Kakashi summon Pakkun and told it to find Gaara or Sasuke? Why not tell Sakura, Shikamaru, or Naruto to do that? When hunting for Itachi and/or Sasuke, why did Kakashi give everyone but Kiba a pair of dogs to track?Quote:
I never said it was restricted or a jutsu, but it doesn't look like a common thing. I don't need anything more than what the manga shows - not even JIraiya used his nose to track Tsunade. So far, we've only seen Kakashi, Hiruzen, Kiba, and his clan use their nose to track. Even when others could have used their nose to track over other things.
Yes we were, thus the discussion about why his arm full of Hashirama cells shouldn't be a major factor between the sealing and Sharingans.
Doesn't necessarily mean it'd work though. Where was it even said that it was the reverse form of Four Symbol seal?
Dunno, could have just been Danzou-specific seal like the seal on the tongue of Root.
Oh. Could have been, though, since Hashirama's chakra or cells tend to provide some kind of extra power.
It's named Reverse Four Symbol technique. Obito was seriously fearful of it and he would have been more capable of escape then an Edo summon. And compared to the other sealing techniques that took down the Edo summons, it seems much more permanent. That tongue seal seems more personal.
Eh, if that was really the case, then Yamato should be more then Hashirama-lite and the Zetsus wouldn't be a joke.
Oh. Doesn't necessarily mean it's the REVERSE of the Four Symbol technique, does it? From the looks of it, the seal could deal a lot of damage or wide area of damage. Though, it could be likely that Danzou was better at seals than Hiruzen, so he was able to use it.
Yamato said he never had the type of chakra Hashirama did that brought life to his Mokuton, and his own chakra may not have been that powerful. Zetsu weren't that much of a joke, they did what they were intended for and still dealt serious damage.
Ah that's right. I can't believe I let that slip my mind. Here in the left-middle panel He stopped his attack for a moment. And here Darui said "He gave up his arm". He lost it intentionally. I win.Quote:
How would it make no sense ? And how was I making assumptions ? Here, he clearly said that Sasuke casted the Genjutsu slightly before he noticed the last Sharingan closing. Done. It's stated to be a different Genjutsu and confirmed to have been cast at a different time. Period.Quote:
Again, Sasuke is not in Hashirama's league. And I didn't respond because I got your point from that. When I don't respond to something It means I got the point from it.Quote:
Dude...It's a manga Get over it. Kishimoto writes it however he want.Quote:
Kekkie Genkai is not counted as a normal Jutsu if you don't know.Quote:
Oh and when you failed to deny that you resorted to sarcasm. Beautiful. I won, he can use every technique. Done.
...Didn't you notice the "in comparison to the Kyuubi " part ?Quote:
Not every white and black thing is Yin-Yang, if you can't tell. But this requires a little lesson :Quote:
Creating the Bijuudama requires positive black chakra which name is " purasu no kuro chakura" and Negative white chakra named " mainasu no shiro chakura". Clearly there is nothing about Yin-Yang there. You just assumed "oh black and white= Yin-Yang". The Yang chakra is used to breath life into things, which is why when Naruto controlled the Yang chakra from the Kyuubi, the trees reacted to it life-giving chakra and grown. He still lacked the Yin half which was sealed. So yeah, your proof is useless, or rather not a proof to begin with. Done. You don't need to reply to what is done, so we can get this over with.
When he said don't judge by tail, doesn't mean he's not acknowledging Kurama as the strongest. He most likely meant there a more to strength than just tails. Of course I said most likely because it's not clear yet, that's why you shouldn't use that as a proof.Quote:
That aside, when did they say he was drawing on his life force ?
Oh yeah, me bringing direct proofs is making it up. But you changing everything slightly to suit your argument is an "Actual evidence".
Okay then, bring me a page from the actual series that said these techniques can one-shot anyone. Or these techniques actually one-shotting anyone for that matter. It shouldn't be hard sense your source is the "Actual series".Quote:
I'm sorry what ? Did I say anything about it being a punch or his strongest attack ? Where did you make that up ? He broke through it and floored Sasuke alone. Seeing as you avoided saying anything to counter that. I win. Their Susanoos are not equal.Quote:
And you translated that into "Here have your emotions, without them you will be very weak". He simply "implied" that keeping their emotions increase their effectiveness in combat. However, here he stated clearly that he would rather erase their emotions in which would make them better at combat, something which even Obito thought would be better. And he clearly stated that keeping their emotions help only in a psychological warfare. This is an even more powerful proof than your own.Quote:
Last edited by KingOfNight; January 10, 2013 at 02:19 AM.
Could also show that not enough experiment was done on Yamato like it was on Danzou, as he was abandoned soon after getting injected with the cells.
I don't think the Zetsu were meant for anything but transforming into the enemy. And possibly for luring Naruto out.
I don't get it, don't you care for events in the manga? Only things that where stated? Would you need someone direcly stating that Madara can take down Konahamaru to accept he can? What if Tsunade states now that Konahamaru can take down Madara? Would that be acceptable evidence for you?
Also don't you care to compare the feats displayed by caracters in the manga and deduce (that is why we have brains, to think, deduce and get something out of it) who is the better fighter? We don't need Kishi feeding us the answer. We can deduce that one ourself.
When Bee that is a huge octopus can't get out of the dome how is Sarutobi supposed to?
Now IF Hidan get's Sarutobi's blood he is defenetly 1 shoot at that point. All Hidan needs is to hit his own hearth. Sarutobi can't do anything about that.
Take Itachi, this guy would 1 shoot him to with genjutsu...
Sasuke with Amaterasu.
Naruto with shunshin before Sarutobi even knows what is happening or a Bijduama to the face.
Raikage with pure speed. Nothing Sarutobi can do to doge.
Tsukisage asuming he get's a jinton off.
This list keeps going.
Also it is retconed the fact that it was yin and yang. If posible Minato would seal more but it was imposible to do so. He just sealed half its chakra as anything more then that is IMPOSIBLE. It was a percentage out of the hole of posible chakra capacity. Its not half because that is the Yang. It was because more then that is not posible.
Kishi does this stuff for the plot. Same with ET zombies themselfs as i pointed out before. In part 1 Oro could summon Minato and Sarutobi can stop it BUT in part 2 it was made clear this is imposible.
Last edited by xXan; January 10, 2013 at 03:46 AM.
You need to understand that I don't want to discuss a battle here, which is why I'm asking him to keep his battle assumption to himself. Just because a Jutsu can do that doesn't make it an established fact he can one-shot him. Hidan didn't one-shot Kakashi, Shikamaru or Azuma so why would he one-shot Sarutobi ? And B had to save that other guy as well which was a major disadvantage.
Minato sealed half of the Kyuubi chakra, he said so himself, I can't believe I'm actually bothering to argue this.
Last edited by KingOfNight; January 10, 2013 at 04:13 AM.
You can still make logical deduction on how caracter would do based on the showings they had. Is it clear that THIS si how its going to turn up? Not even Kishi knows that as he can change his mind...
Hidan did not 1 shoot those dudes because he needed the blood first. He killed Asuma when he had it after having some fun. Even Kakuzu lost a hearth (so died) because of it. Asuming he has Sarutobi's blood all he needs to do is impale him own brain killing Sarutobi instantly.
Minato sealed half that is true but not the yin/yang part. If he could he would have sealed more but it was not posible.
Last edited by xXan; January 10, 2013 at 04:24 AM.
Technically speaking, if Hidan was to sneak in to a hospital's blood bank, that village was done for
But that's not the point. The deduction was simple, since he was probably going to be unaware of Hidan's ability as Asuma was, and wouldn't even care about taking a minor injury.
Though, this is indeed not a fact. That's why we said he could and not he did.
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