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    Re: The Search for Straw Hat's New Nakama... - 2nd edition

    I dont know who will be the next strawhat, but Kinemon has the inside track on being the next member. I thin Kinemon is the Shogun of Wano country, so he cant join. I think Kanjuro will be the next strawhat

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    Re: The Search for Straw Hat's New Nakama... - 2nd edition

    Quote Originally Posted by chess4 View Post
    I dont know who will be the next strawhat, but Kinemon has the inside track on being the next member. I thin Kinemon is the Shogun of Wano country, so he cant join. I think Kanjuro will be the next strawhat
    Shogun? Him?
    Don't want to sound like a jerk, but If I'm not wrong all Samurai have masters...So they can't be the Shoguns. I think Oda will keep that.

    And the solely reason to join the Strawhats will be to protect Luffy, the King of Pirates. The reason I yet can't figure out, but I don't have any good reason for Jinbei neither and He joined :P
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    Re: The Search for Straw Hat's New Nakama... - 2nd edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Uriel View Post
    Shogun? Him?
    Don't want to sound like a jerk, but If I'm not wrong all Samurai have masters...So they can't be the Shoguns. I think Oda will keep that.

    And the solely reason to join the Strawhats will be to protect Luffy, the King of Pirates. The reason I yet can't figure out, but I don't have any good reason for Jinbei neither and He joined :P
    The reason mostly comes later on. Luffy was interested in all of the current SHs (except Franky) before knowing their respective reasons and dreams. What´s more important is the personal relation to Luffy and if i have to be honest, there is no real relation between Luffy and Kinemon right now. It can change of course, considering that both Kin and Momo will be a part of OP for a rather long time (Dressrosa, Zou, Wa No) but Luffy does not really seem to be interested in Kin.

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    Re: The Search for Straw Hat's New Nakama... - 2nd edition

    ^Well, luffy didn't necessarily know everything about the strawhats before they joined. In brook's case luffy asked as soon as he met him, with robin luffy had at most a partial idea and she basically guilted herself into the crew. With zoro he wanted him to join as soon as he heard of him, he had not even met him. Jinbe does not really have a dream and if anything his motivation was always the well being of fishman island which kinda puts piracy and what has driven him on opposite ends.

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    Re: The Search for Straw Hat's New Nakama... - 2nd edition

    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    ^Well, luffy didn't necessarily know everything about the strawhats before they joined. In brook's case luffy asked as soon as he met him, with robin luffy had at most a partial idea and she basically guilted herself into the crew. With zoro he wanted him to join as soon as he heard of him, he had not even met him. Jinbe does not really have a dream and if anything his motivation was always the well being of fishman island which kinda puts piracy and what has driven him on opposite ends.
    If it is answer to my post (if not, ignore it). I deliberately said nothing about knowing because that is not necessary but there is always a sense of interest from Luffy towards the future SHs. He is interested in them, whether as enemy, friend, because of powers, because of special personality traits and so forth. That is not given with Kinemon, well, at least not with his complete body.

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    Re: The Search for Straw Hat's New Nakama... - 2nd edition

    Quote Originally Posted by MiyamotoMusashi View Post
    Jinbe has one of the deepest bonds with Luffy, that´s the most important thing. The crew member after that would have that problem.
    Yeah, that's why I would only agree with Jinbei joining the crew.
    But, seeing how he's basically saying that he will join later, and stuff like that, I think that his role will remain as an "ally" to Strawhat or as a "temp-crewmember" like Vivi.

    But, yeah...
    If there need to be one more, I want it to be Jinbei.

    First, he is strong enough to rival with the Monster Trio.

    Second, he has a important role that is not covered in the crew right now, the one of the "old serious sage".
    This is especially funny when Luffy does something really stupid and Jinbei reacts to it.

    Third, he's definitely different from the other crewmembers, being a fishman and his ability being water/fishmen karate.
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    Re: The Search for Straw Hat's New Nakama... - 2nd edition

    Jinbei is definitely a great permanent addition to SHP, he adds variety and is a great symbolism. I don't remember any other pirate crew that has a fishman in its ranks, not even the Marines. Jinbei being with SHP further shows how unbiased they are, how acceptin they are, and how unprejudiced they are, which I think will be very important later on. They managed to change the Fishman Island dwellers' minds about humans, they can try to convince people to rethink their opinion of the fishman.

    Jinbei risking his life for Luffy as he did for Whitebeard and Ace, and Luffy and the crew helpin Jinbei whenever Jinbei wants it... SHP already has good reputation in many areas, and they can help increase the fishmen's reputation as well. Plus, Jinbei can also provide that serious side when needed, like Nami. He can be the "father" of the crew while Nami's the "mother," and he's good natured. Jinbei is a perfect fit for SHP, in my opinion. Plus, all SHP that joined the crew were usually affected by Luffy in some way, whether it's Nami believing there were some good pirates out there, Robin believing that she finally had nakama she could trust, or Chopper finally being accepted.

    Plus, it'd be great to see Jinbei interact with the SHP, especially with Luffy. I don't think he really knew the true essence of Luffy until the Fishman Island arc, as Luffy was intent on rescuing Ace. Now he's beginnign to realize that Luffy is quite a reckless idiot, so I'm pretty interested in seeing how he responds to that.



    I miss Vivi though. T_T

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    Re: The Search for Straw Hat's New Nakama... - 2nd edition

    ^iirc, Whitebeard and/or Allies have fishman members. can't remember but i saw some fishman (or fishman looking guys) during the marineford war.

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    Re: The Search for Straw Hat's New Nakama... - 2nd edition

    Foxy's crew had giant/fishman hybrids too. Tom lived in water seven with basically humans and no one of his species.
    This guy lived at logue town
    http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Sapi#cite_note-0

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    Re: The Search for Straw Hat's New Nakama... - 2nd edition

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    Plus, it'd be great to see Jinbei interact with the SHP, especially with Luffy. I don't think he really knew the true essence of Luffy until the Fishman Island arc, as Luffy was intent on rescuing Ace. Now he's beginnign to realize that Luffy is quite a reckless idiot, so I'm pretty interested in seeing how he responds to that.
    I think he got that impression when Luffy neglected to hear what he was saying about Blackbeard.

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    Re: The Search for Straw Hat's New Nakama... - 2nd edition

    I say Kinemon is the Shogun because it is obvious at this point that he is the Vivi of the 2nd part of the story. I would love for him to join the crew, but he is not. Remember Momonosasuke wants to be Shogun, and as far as I understand passed down from father to son, so momonosasuke cant be a Shogun unless his father is one.

    Just how Robin joining came out of left field, I think the next member will be somewhat like that. Doflmaingo is the Crocodile of this arc, and i think either Kanjuro or someone that Doflmaingo has captured will join next

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    Re: The Search for Straw Hat's New Nakama... - 2nd edition

    I don't know about kinemon being a shogun but if he was then he is definitely not joining the crew. He has been shown to be loyal to wano, I don't think he would abandon his people.

    Anyways, there is something exceptionally weird going on about kinemon and mononosuke if we think about it. Why did kinemon take mononosuke to dresrosa? It is the home of a shichibukai friendly with kaido and the underworld. Whatever the samurai were doing there it does not make sense for them to have taken mononosuke at all. The only logical explanation is that mononosuke had some sort of relevance there to begin with (unless he joined them in secret). Anyways, given the obvious weirdness of mononosuke being there at all, the extreme nonsense of kinemon taking him there, what if we question his identity a bit? Is mononosuke really kinemon's son? Perhaps mononosuke is actually a prince and was being escorted by 3 samurai while visiting the dressrosa for whatever royal reason. The whole son thing would merely be a cover for mononosuke to travel safely and at the moment kinemon and mononosuke would simply be playing a part. If mononosuke and kinemon are not actually related then kinemon is definitely joining the strawhats IMO.

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    Re: The Search for Straw Hat's New Nakama... - 2nd edition

    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    Anyways, there is something exceptionally weird going on about kinemon and mononosuke if we think about it. Why did kinemon take mononosuke to dresrosa? It is the home of a shichibukai friendly with kaido and the underworld. Whatever the samurai were doing there it does not make sense for them to have taken mononosuke at all. The only logical explanation is that mononosuke had some sort of relevance there to begin with (unless he joined them in secret). Anyways, given the obvious weirdness of mononosuke being there at all, the extreme nonsense of kinemon taking him there, what if we question his identity a bit? Is mononosuke really kinemon's son? Perhaps mononosuke is actually a prince and was being escorted by 3 samurai while visiting the dressrosa for whatever royal reason. The whole son thing would merely be a cover for mononosuke to travel safely and at the moment kinemon and mononosuke would simply be playing a part. If mononosuke and kinemon are not actually related then kinemon is definitely joining the strawhats IMO.
    They were going to Zou and had a shipwreck near Dressrosa, remember?

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    Re: The Search for Straw Hat's New Nakama... - 2nd edition

    Quote Originally Posted by EddyBob15 View Post
    I think he got that impression when Luffy neglected to hear what he was saying about Blackbeard.
    Reckless part, but he didn't know just how much of a reckless idiot Luffy was. Jinbei was pretty surprised and got mad at Luffy for not listening to his information on what happened during the timeskip.



    I would love for Vivi to join the nakama though. Kinemon also sounds like a good bet - he can leave his son to train somewhere if need be. Hell, his son could join too.

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    Re: The Search for Straw Hat's New Nakama... - 2nd edition

    Quote Originally Posted by ErosVp View Post
    They were going to Zou and had a shipwreck near Dressrosa, remember?
    Ahh yes, someone else pointed that out. The only way in which that changes my idea is that they were taking mononosuke to zou and not dressrosa though. It is still completely weird they took mononosuke at all during the mission considering he is a child that cannot fight, specially if they were on a sort of official mission from wano. The only reason it makes sense to have mononosuke at all is that he is part of the mission to begin with.

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