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Thread: A Song of Ice and Fire (Original Book Series) [SPOILERS - BEWARE]

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    Re: A Song of Ice and Fire (Original Book Series) [SPOILERS - BEWARE]

    Is "A Game of Thrones," (First Book) the best book in the series or are the following books better than the first?
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    Re: A Song of Ice and Fire (Original Book Series) [SPOILERS - BEWARE]

    A Storm of Swords is highly regarded as the best book (the third book). I dare say after that it's the second based on the fan votes I've seen, but after that it's very varied. In fact it's highly subjective which books you prefer. Some of it has to do with the different plots. Then there's factors like whom your favorite characters are, what they do in the different books, and whether those characters have POV chapters in those books or not etc etc. So many factors. Personally my list is probably 3 > 2/5 > 1/4, and this list doesn't really mean there's a significant quality difference from my personal perspective. I do find the writing improved in e.g. 5 over 1, but the plots are different, the characters are different blablabla. All five have so far been very good IMO.


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    Re: A Song of Ice and Fire (Original Book Series) [SPOILERS - BEWARE]

    Quote Originally Posted by otomo20 View Post
    there's another theory that the wall is lightbringer instead of it being a sword, and that the night's watch is AA somehow.
    No, it makes perfect sense - "the sword in the darkness". People just like it being attached to an actual person and being more literal.

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    Re: A Song of Ice and Fire (Original Book Series) [SPOILERS - BEWARE]

    Quote Originally Posted by HBO Q&A with Nikolaj Coster-Waldau (Jaime)
    HBO: Which character or being scares you the most? 

    Nikolaj Coster-Waldau: Melisandre the Red priestess-she's a scary woman. There's also something about that type of power that Daenerys has. Most people believe she's doing the right thing, but she's burning people alive. She's got a chip on her shoulder. I don't want her to come across the Narrow Sea. She's going to burn thousands and thousands and thousands of people and have that self-righteous smirk on her face the whole time.
    Just so true.


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    Re: A Song of Ice and Fire (Original Book Series) [SPOILERS - BEWARE]

    Quote Originally Posted by xi0 View Post
    No, it makes perfect sense - "the sword in the darkness". People just like it being attached to an actual person and being more literal.
    well what about AA? its said he thrust it into his wife, how does that work into it being anything other than a sword?

    though the night watch's vows do sound like they are related to lightbringer somehow.

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    Re: A Song of Ice and Fire (Original Book Series) [SPOILERS - BEWARE]

    I did read an explanation for that. The major theory around the NW being AA covers everything, but I don't remember the details. Got to look for it.


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    Re: A Song of Ice and Fire (Original Book Series) [SPOILERS - BEWARE]

    Quote Originally Posted by 3c View Post
    Just so true.
    Hmmm...to be honest, I think his answer is a typical one you get from people who don't read the books. Not to say she won't become like that, still a lot of story left.

    Quote Originally Posted by otomo20 View Post
    well what about AA? its said he thrust it into his wife, how does that work into it being anything other than a sword?

    though the night watch's vows do sound like they are related to lightbringer somehow.
    Not sure...there's a ton of theories about what Lightbringer is and who Nissa Nissa is, blahblah

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    Re: A Song of Ice and Fire (Original Book Series) [SPOILERS - BEWARE]

    Here's a cool theory on AA.

    Could the reincarnation of Azor Ahai be....Thoros of Myr???
    Could Lightbringer be Jon Snow?

    Azor tempered his blade thrice until he created lightbringer. Rather than the any literal interpretation of a tempered sword, what if Lightbringer was a person? Thoros has resurrected two people(one via proxy) thus far. The third person to receive this kiss may well be 'Lightbringer'.

    According to the story of Azor Ahai:
    First sword was tempered in water. As they found Catelyn Stark's body by the river, Berric was 'tempered' and gave his life for Catelyn with the kiss of life.
    Second sword was tempered in a lion. With Lady Stoneheart leading the charge, Thoros has lost heart. His 'sword' is not effective enough in his fight against the darkness. A lion is on its way into a trap in the Riverlands....
    Third sword was tempered in the heart of a woman.

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    Re: A Song of Ice and Fire (Original Book Series) [SPOILERS - BEWARE]

    Quote Originally Posted by otomo20 View Post
    Here's a cool theory on AA.

    Could the reincarnation of Azor Ahai be....Thoros of Myr???
    Could Lightbringer be Jon Snow?

    Azor tempered his blade thrice until he created lightbringer. Rather than the any literal interpretation of a tempered sword, what if Lightbringer was a person? Thoros has resurrected two people(one via proxy) thus far. The third person to receive this kiss may well be 'Lightbringer'.

    According to the story of Azor Ahai:
    First sword was tempered in water. As they found Catelyn Stark's body by the river, Berric was 'tempered' and gave his life for Catelyn with the kiss of life.
    Second sword was tempered in a lion. With Lady Stoneheart leading the charge, Thoros has lost heart. His 'sword' is not effective enough in his fight against the darkness. A lion is on its way into a trap in the Riverlands....
    Third sword was tempered in the heart of a woman.
    But what does any of that have to do with Jon Snow?

    It sort of fits, so who knows

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    Re: A Song of Ice and Fire (Original Book Series) [SPOILERS - BEWARE]

    Quote Originally Posted by otomo20 View Post
    well what about AA? its said he thrust it into his wife, how does that work into it being anything other than a sword?

    though the night watch's vows do sound like they are related to lightbringer somehow.
    Well it's said that the soul fused with the sword or something and that managed to temper the blade...so the blade might actually be a woman...*cough* Dany *cough*...I firmly believe that Dany has the closest relation to the prophecy...she might even die to have the sword forged anew...

    Anyways if you take the hints from the books, especially from Aemon, then Lightbringer is Dany IMO, but I don't think Azor Ahai is her....Azor Ahai is the one using Lightbringer, so it might as well end up being Tyrion...

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    Re: A Song of Ice and Fire (Original Book Series) [SPOILERS - BEWARE]

    It's impossible to speculate on AA, but I do know the end of Jon's story in the last book took him from being a possibility, to him being a probability. At least in the eyes of most fans.

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    Re: A Song of Ice and Fire (Original Book Series) [SPOILERS - BEWARE]

    Quote Originally Posted by xi0 View Post
    It's impossible to speculate on AA, but I do know the end of Jon's story in the last book took him from being a possibility, to him being a probability. At least in the eyes of most fans.
    Yes, Melisandre chapter looking at the flames pretty much screams Jon being AA.
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    Re: A Song of Ice and Fire (Original Book Series) [SPOILERS - BEWARE]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoa View Post
    Yes, Melisandre chapter looking at the flames pretty much screams Jon being AA.
    Not the first time she was wrong though

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    Re: A Song of Ice and Fire (Original Book Series) [SPOILERS - BEWARE]

    But the flames aren't wrong, her interpretations are. On that chapter she asks to see AA, thinking about Stannis, but the flames show her Jon. She doesn`t understand it, as in her mind Stannis is AA.
    At this point I'll be really surprised if Jon isn't AA.
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    Re: A Song of Ice and Fire (Original Book Series) [SPOILERS - BEWARE]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoa View Post
    But the flames aren't wrong, her interpretations are. On that chapter she asks to see AA, thinking about Stannis, but the flames show her Jon. She doesn`t understand it, as in her mind Stannis is AA.
    At this point I'll be really surprised if Jon isn't AA.
    Red Herring...GRRM likes those

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