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Thread: Worst Possible ending for the Arrancar arc/Deicide saga

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    Re: Worst Possible ending

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyber34 View Post
    The only light I can shed is that this manga is not an ideal read for logical thinkers. It is best to give up trying to make sense of the B.S. and just read it to see how the story will progress.
    Couldn't have said it any better myself. And its not only true for bleach, its true for many things ranging from commericals to feature length films. Sometimes you gotta turn your brain off and just have fun.

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    Re: Worst Possible ending

    WORST ENDING : Aizen and Ichigo makes up and defeat the final villain.
    And Aizen claiming --> This was all part of my plan.
    Would you like me to save you?... Just kidding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahl View Post
    Assuming that this is the end to Aizen being the bad guy, does anyone else feel that this was the worst possible ending?


    Yourichi & Urahara and several others not going Bankai.
    No body really dying.

    Nothing really being explained:

    Why would Aizen set Ichigo up to be able to defeat him?
    Why was there zero attempt to make the infamous kings key?
    Why did no one kill Aizen?
    Why didn't Inoue heal Yamamoto's arm?
    What the hell happened to Yammy?

    Why, Why , Why?

    The list goes on and on and none of it really makes much sense.

    Can any of you guys shed some light on this situation?
    It's been a while since the end of this, but I still can't get over just how much Kubo failed so hard on basically all fronts. It's like he just didn't even care and wanted to move on. It really shows just how much he didn't have any of this planned out, and was just pulling stuff out of where the sun don't shine.

    But, as was said earlier, Aizen didn't set up Ichigo so he could win, he set it up so that Ichigo would be strong enough to force him to "evolve", just like he did with Gin. A very sloppy understanding of the concept of evolution if it is inspired by the biological theory, as evolution does not work to improve individuals, but the species as a whole. But still an interesting plot device, and a forgivable error for someone who is an artist, not a scientist.

    Nobody dying, Aizen said when he cut them all down that he wasn't trying to kill them, that he wanted them to watch. Though, since his motivation for doing this isn't all that clear, it's still a cop out.

    We did get to see two new Bankais in that arc (Jakuhou Raikouben and Kamishini no Yari), as well as the Shikais of all the Vaizard except Hachi. I don't count Tekken Tachikaze because even though we saw it, we didn't see any of the fight. The lack of Bankai is pretty bad writing. Maybe Kubo just hasn't bothered to design them yet. Any halfway decent writer would have gotten such an essential part of the character design at the very beginning though. Hell, a good mangaka like Oda or Akamatsu would have probably already designed Kenpahi's Bankai, just in case.

    I don't really like Gin's Bankai though. It just seems like a cheap way to make Gin able to kill Aizen.

    King's Key, Aizen was going to make it once he was done with Ichigo. He just got beat before he got around to it.

    No one killed Aizen because he was now effectively immortal. The new Central 46 (47?) guys said so.

    The Yammy fight was total crap. Or rather, the the complete absence of the back half of the Yammi fight (what would have been the best, most awesome, most epic part!) is total crap. He was the 0 Espada, apparently stronger even than the super-broken Barrigan, and I'm supposed to believe that he was weak enough that two Captains could take him down without serious injury!?!? Kenpachi even said the fight was boring! What the hell?

    Kensei getting beat by Wonderweiss isn't as much crap as Yammi getting beaten so easily, but it's still crap that we didn't get to see it.

    You didn't even touch on two of what I consider to be the biggest epic fails of that arc.

    One, that whole "understanding" bull crap. While not crucial to the plot, it's horribly done. Aizen making the observation that "two-dimensional being cannot perceive a three-dimensional one" is not true. Not strictly true at least. Mathmeticians can conceive of 4 dimensional tesseracts and hyper spheres, and we would be able to see 3 dimensional projections of the 4 dimensional object. It'd be really frickin wierd, but it'd be possible.

    Aizen doesn't have 4D reiatsu though he just has a whole crapton of it. And even if he did have some extra dimension to his reiatsu, that doesn't meant that Shinigami would lose the ability to perceive the reiatsu component of it. They just wouldn't be able to perceive the new dimension.

    And if Aizen is 4D, would that make Ichigo's reiatsu 5D when he used the Final Getsuga?

    And the notion that it would be too large to be felt is crap too. It's true that people have trouble imagining huge things beyond a certain size, but they can still perceive it as really frickin big.

    Damn Tatsuki could feel Aizen's power. Are we seriously supposed to believe that she's on Aizen's level of power, but Urahara isn't?

    And the worst one, that whole "I think Aizen just wanted to be weak" crap. There was absolutely NO hint of this AT ALL. Aizen had one of the biggest God complexs in any story I've ever read, and the most justified one, too. In fact, hestill didn' even after his defeat (Witness his demeanor at his sentencing). He never, EVER gave any hint that he was dissatisfied with his enormous power, and every sign that he enjoyed it. And I won't buy that "deep down in his heart, where even he didn't know" crap that someone's probably brought up.

    The worst part is, that shtick was done already. That was Starrk's issue, and with him it worked, it gave him some interesting depth. With Aizen it makes no sense at all, especially when it was already done with a different character.

    Tousen's new sight thing was done pretty badly too, but that's not really about the ending.

    After such a long rant, I must praise the elements, however small, that I did enjoy, and thought were awesome:

    Aizen musing about how both his and Ichigo's Zanpakutous were fused to their arms, and wondering if it's the true form of Zanpakutou or some such nonsense. A small diversion, but really shows that Aizen is an intellectual, and always analyzing the characteristics of his opponents. I enjoy little touches like that.

    Ichigo's ironic echo about Aizen putting distance between them, when he had previously chiding Ichigo for doing the same. The little touches.

    Kurohitsugi's incantation. So appropriate, coming from Aizen's mouth. The little touches.

    Ichigo catching Aizen's blade with his bare hand, and Aizen freezing in shock because he just can't believe what he just saw. His inner thoughts there are perfectly written. I cannot conceive of a single way to improve that scene, it's that awesome.

    Whatever Aizen was raging to Urahara about the Spirit King. Nice plot twist, and hints that Aizen may have had reasonable motivations. His speech about how people with power should not resign themselves to the way the world is, but form it into what it should be gives some insight into what Aizen's true character might be. I really hope this pans out into something good and interesting. Maybe a plot twist where Aizen's plan really was necessary after all, or something cool like that.

    Though given Kubo's track record, I'm not holding my breath. At least I have Negima, One Piece, Toriko, Hayate, Naruto, and Fairy Tail to keep me entertained.

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    Re: Worst Possible ending

    Worst possible ending(at least for me) : turns out everyone was under Aizen's Bankai,with Aizen appearing at the end after an epic battle between Ichigo and the last villain saying : " Bwahaha,I was trooling around,you were just in my Bankai".Seriously,I'd hate something like this.Besides this ending,I simply can not fathom another bad ending.

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