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    Ichigo's Dad, Ishida's Dad and Urahara

    It seems to me in the previous chapters that Ichigo's dad, Ishida's dad and Urahara know eacgh other Anybody has any ideas what the relationship betweeen them could be?

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    Re: Ichigo's Dad, Ishida's Dad and Urahara

    Ah, one of the great mysteries of Bleach!
    There are so many possbilities.... Uruhara and Isshin might know each other from SS or they might have met only after Isshin decided to stay in the real world. Ryuuken and Isshin might have met when they were fighting Hollows, or in med-school or somewhere else. Uruhara and Ryuuken might have met through Isshin. We don't know.
    However, I got the impression that Ryuuken and Isshin used to be friends. Whereas Isshin and Uruhara seem to have a more distant relationship. And Ryuuken and Uruhara don't seem to like each other much - or at least Ryuuken doesn't like Uruhara. I might be wrong though.

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    Re: Ichigo's Dad, Ishida's Dad and Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by kadodo
    It seems to me in the previous chapters that Ichigo's dad, Ishida's dad and Urahara know eacgh other Anybody has any ideas what the relationship betweeen them could be?
    a threesome?

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    Re: Ichigo's Dad, Ishida's Dad and Urahara

    huzzah~
    my theory:


    Isshin was Urahara's vice captain, something happened that caused Isshin to lose his trust in Urahara and so they became distanced (this could be about the time when Isshin moved to earth, I think he moved BEFORE Urahara was banished)

    On earth, he met Ryuuken, methinks it happened similar to how Ichigo met Uryuu. Their relationship probably evolved similarly... Though Isshin might be more friendly to Ryuuken than Ryuuken to Isshin, because of his grudge against Shinigami.

    This could be about when Urahara & Yoruichi left Soul Society, I think Urahara was aware of Ichigo (or perhaps Ichigo was already born and Urahara did something to him?) and therefore chose to stay in town, to guide him, so he'd grow up to his full potential.

    Isshin and Ryuuken must have picked up on Urahara's presence, neither of them seem like the type to pay him any visits, given the situation.

    So... to summarize:

    Isshin likes Ryuuken, but he has a grudge against Urahara.
    Urahara likes Isshin, doesn't care for Ryuuken more than he would for an ally.
    Ryuuken respects Isshin, but his grudge against Shinigami is keeping him from becoming too close. He doesn't care for Urahara.

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    Re: Ichigo's Dad, Ishida's Dad and Urahara

    Well, we do know that Urahara caused Isshin's reiatsu to disappear. Since he was banished because of doing such bodies that don't regenerate chakra, it wouldn't surprise me if he gave Isshin one of those.
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    Re: Ichigo's Dad, Ishida's Dad and Urahara

    I have a problem with the idea of Isshin being Urahara's former vice-captain. I thought that was probably Tessai.

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    Re: Ichigo's Dad, Ishida's Dad and Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by kurosakistrawberry
    I have a problem with the idea of Isshin being Urahara's former vice-captain. I thought that was probably Tessai.
    methinks Tessai, Jinta and Ururu are konpaku that Urahara designed himself.

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    Re: Ichigo's Dad, Ishida's Dad and Urahara

    I can see Ururu as being an artificial soul, but Jinta seems more like a real human. I don't think Tessai is an artificial soul, could an artificial soul do a Way of Binding Number 99?

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    Re: Ichigo's Dad, Ishida's Dad and Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by kurosakistrawberry
    I can see Ururu as being an artificial soul, but Jinta seems more like a real human. I don't think Tessai is an artificial soul, could an artificial soul do a Way of Binding Number 99?
    Jinta seems more like a real human the way Kon seems like a real human, if you catch my drift.

    And hey, if Urahara can make the hougyouku, do you really think it's THAT far-fetched for him to be able to create a mod soul as strong as Tessai? besides, what defines a shinigami? zanpakutoh. Ururu uses a rocket launcher, Jinta a mallet and Tessai fights with his bare hands. Why doesn't he use a zanpakutoh? Anyway this is getting off-topic.


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    Re: Ichigo's Dad, Ishida's Dad and Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna
    a threesome?
    you a real pervert![br]Posted on: December 08, 2006, 06:42:05 PM_________________________________________________
    Quote Originally Posted by ibra87
    Well, we do know that Urahara caused Isshin's reiatsu to disappear. Since he was banished because of doing such bodies that don't regenerate chakra, it wouldn't surprise me if he gave Isshin one of those.
    Don't you mean reatsu instead of chakra?[br]Posted on: December 08, 2006, 06:45:13 PM_________________________________________________
    Quote Originally Posted by ibra87
    Well, we do know that Urahara caused Isshin's reiatsu to disappear. Since he was banished because of doing such bodies that don't regenerate chakra, it wouldn't surprise me if he gave Isshin one of those.
    Wasn't Urahara also banished for making that thing he inserted inside Rukia?
    Also I was thinking that maybe Isshin and Urahara were banished at the same time.

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    Re: Ichigo's Dad, Ishida's Dad and Urahara

    I doubt it... Isshin left to live in the living world with his wife and have a family and all that fun stuff...

    besides, it's obvious Isshin doesn't trust Urahara as much as he used to, I'm sticking to my theory: Isshin moved out first and when Urahara got kicked out, he moved into the same town.

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    Re: Ichigo's Dad, Ishida's Dad and Urahara

    Maybe Isshin moved out because of the king?

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    Re: Ichigo's Dad, Ishida's Dad and Urahara

    Can't wait to see who the king is...

    I suppose Tessai and Jinta could be mod souls. If so, then Ichigo's dad would by my first bet on who Urahara's vice-captain was. But, doesn't it seem like they would be closer if they had been captain and subordinate?

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    Re: Ichigo's Dad, Ishida's Dad and Urahara

    Not neccesarily, We actually know next to nothing of how one becomes a vice captain, and when you think about it many of the captain/vice captain pairs are eccentric enough to let you beleive that the two could not have chosen to be paired. For instance, I doubt Hitsugaya chose Rangiku, or that Nanao wanted to work under Kyuraku, even less do I beleive that Soi Fong, wanted the fat man as her second in command. As always I could be wrong on this one too, all I am saying is that we don't know one way or another how a captein gets his/her vice. And therefor we cannot assume that they would neccesarily be on good terms with each other.

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    Yeah, I REALLY doubt that Soi Fon chose that guy as her vice-captain. And Renji doesn't seem to get along with Byakuya that well either.

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