Chapter 111 Discussion/112 Predictions

[HegemonKhan]

I'd just point out that the 24 Claymores in Pieta were taken by surprise and "frozen" too, in both the pre-main Pieta battle against the 3 "recon/scout" ABs and then in the main Pieta battle, the 27 ABs. Humans were killed by the 3 "recon/scout" ABs, while the Claymores were "frozen", sleeping, or simply not aware of the attack. And the 27 ABs killed some Claymores as they all were still waiting and "frozen" watching their dead Claymores' blood and guts spilling out.

So, Eva ain't unique in being "frozen" and "not doing anything". We see the same in the Pieta battle, even Miria herself, seems to be shown to be "frozen" and not doing anything as well, just like Eva was too.

Then there's also the "spiderman" male AB too, with Deneve, Helen, and Clare "frozen" as the male AB slices Miria, changes into his Awakened body/form, and jumps back onto the cliff wall/face.

Also, there's Riful, who was "frozen", and not doing anything, as Priscilla attacks and kills her.

[su5so]

What I'm wondering is if Tabitha could beat anastasia, because after seeing the chapter, I see it very possible. Because anastasia could only hurt slightly to awake, but the ghosts annihilated in an instant.
And after that, what level are Helen and Deneve? The level of a Number 1 or 2? ¿Or just the current generation is too weak?

[natli]

Dietrich is enough baggage for Deneve's group, why add those spares...?
Yagi has so much pages, and yet, nothing happens...

[HegemonKhan]

What I'm wondering is if Tabitha could beat anastasia, because after seeing the chapter, I see it very possible. Because anastasia could only hurt slightly to awake, but the ghosts annihilated in an instant.
And after that, what level are Helen and Deneve? The level of a Number 1 or 2? ¿Or just the current generation is too weak?

Dietrich is enough baggage for Deneve's group, why add those spares...?
Yagi has so much pages, and yet, nothing happens...

1. We learn that Anastasia (rank 7), Nike (rank 15), Keira (rank unknown), and Phina (rank unknown) aren't that powerful, or rather that their power simply matches their ranks, lol.

so, the 2 HAs (rank 15 Deneve and rank 22 Helen) are definately more powerful then them.

however, I'm not sure if we can say that the non-HAs (rank 14 Cynthia, rank 31 Tabatha, and rank 40 Yuma) are more powerful then rank 7 Anastasia (nor rank 8 Dietrich too). Yuma did easily defeat the nameless rank 14, but defeating rank 7 Anastasia (or rank 8 Dietrich) might be another matter.

2. this is my own rough ranking in their power levels:

Fully Awakened Clare = Unknown

Partially Awakened Clare = obviously at least far more powerful than a rank 2 Awakened (Rigardo). so, I'd say equal to a rank 1 Claymore or a rank 1 Awakened (an AO)

Claymore Clare (and maybe Miria and/or maybe Deneve) = rank 1-2 Claymores/Awakeneds or rank 3 Awakened

Miata = rank 1 Claymore, however she has still has quite detrimental "immaturity" flaws. Thus, she's a handicapped-weakened rank 1 Claymore, lol.

Helen = rank 3-5 Claymore or a rank 3 Awakened, however her Extendable Drill Sword mkaes her far more powerful, dangerous, and deadly than Galatea.

Galatea = rank 3 Claymore

Cynthia, Tabatha, and Yuma = rank 6-13 Claymores

Anastasia = rank 7 Claymore

Dietrich = rank 8 Claymore (presumably, as there's a debate whether she was demoted to rank 8 or demoted from rank 8)

(nameless) = rank 14 Claymore

Nike = rank 15 Claymore

3. Some of the ranks of Clarice's Era are seemingly weaker then Clare's Era of Claymores (excluding the exceptions of Clare's Era; the HAs, the Ghosts, Rafaela, and Clare).

4. Dietrich is revealed to be on the Ghosts' side fully now, with her realizing that her town was ordered destroyed by the Organization, and thus her "precious savior" Organization and which ever (unknown) specific Black Coat who saved her and took her in and made her into a Claymore, was really her enemy that destroyed her town.

The Ghosts are going to attack the Org HQs, they can use all the help they can get. So, Anastasia, Nike, Phina, and Keira could be helpful (though they could be detriments too however).

[Super Angillis]

Depends on wether or not the Ghosts convince this squad to turn against the Org. I think this might be where we really see the Ghosts policy towards the Claymores that still obay the Org get set.

I'll probably wait until after the first to do my review of this chapter.

[Moie]

1. We learn that Anastasia (rank 7), Nike (rank 15), Keira (rank unknown), and Phina (rank unknown) aren't that powerful, or rather that their power simply matches their ranks, lol.

so, the 2 HAs (rank 15 Deneve and rank 22 Helen) are definately more powerful then them.

however, I'm not sure if we can say that the non-HAs (rank 14 Cynthia, rank 31 Tabatha, and rank 40 Yuma) are more powerful then rank 7 Anastasia (nor rank 8 Dietrich too). Yuma did easily defeat the nameless rank 14, but defeating rank 7 Anastasia (or rank 8 Dietrich) might be another matter.

2. this is my own rough ranking in their power levels:

Fully Awakened Clare = Unknown

Partially Awakened Clare = obviously at least far more powerful than a rank 2 Awakened (Rigardo). so, I'd say equal to a rank 1 Claymore or a rank 1 Awakened (an AO)

Claymore Clare (and maybe Miria and/or maybe Deneve) = rank 1-2 Claymores/Awakeneds or rank 3 Awakened

Miata = rank 1 Claymore, however she has still has quite detrimental "immaturity" flaws. Thus, she's a handicapped-weakened rank 1 Claymore, lol.

Helen = rank 3-5 Claymore or a rank 3 Awakened, however her Extendable Drill Sword mkaes her far more powerful, dangerous, and deadly than Galatea.

Galatea = rank 3 Claymore

Cynthia, Tabatha, and Yuma = rank 6-13 Claymores

Anastasia = rank 7 Claymore

Dietrich = rank 8 Claymore (presumably, as there's a debate whether she was demoted to rank 8 or demoted from rank 8)

(nameless) = rank 14 Claymore

Nike = rank 15 Claymore

3. Some of the ranks of Clarice's Era are seemingly weaker then Clare's Era of Claymores (excluding the exceptions of Clare's Era; the HAs, the Ghosts, Rafaela, and Clare).

4. Dietrich is revealed to be on the Ghosts' side fully now, with her realizing that her town was ordered destroyed by the Organization, and thus her "precious savior" Organization and which ever (unknown) specific Black Coat who saved her and took her in and made her into a Claymore, was really her enemy that destroyed her town.

The Ghosts are going to attack the Org HQs, they can use all the help they can get. So, Anastasia, Nike, Phina, and Keira could be helpful (though they could be detriments too however).

so then i say which era should the ranks be compared to since clare's era is/was stronger than the current one? If we compare to Clare's era then the non-ghosts definitely drop in rank no? Also, from how Deneve performed of late, i'd say she's reached at least rank 2

As for the other ghosts, now that you mentioned they're not HA, i see an unfortunate future ahead.

[Godeye_Galatea]

I was surprised this chapter was released early. I was expecting it to see it on the first week of January. All in all it was decent. I enjoyed the same old Claymore in action scenes.

As for Anastasia, that is what I call resourceful! Yes, that was a very interesting feat. But that number 15 girl, I really can't still fully understand her ability. Is she jumping and tumbling in the air while cutting her enemies?

Still, I'm looking forward in the next chapters. I think the story is getting more appealing. Looks like its going to end soon. But I hope not!

[p1xel]

Hmm, nice chapter. But it was TOO SHORT. Really.
The plot is really interesting now, Anastasia power was nice.
I wonder what will happen next...will they take another 3 claymore to their team? I think there are enough people already.
I really hope for next arc to be something with the other land...
And what`s with Clare? I wanna know...

[Zehahaha]

I was surprised this chapter was released early. I was expecting it to see it on the first week of January. All in all it was decent. I enjoyed the same old Claymore in action scenes.

As for Anastasia, that is what I call resourceful! Yes, that was a very interesting feat. But that number 15 girl, I really can't still fully understand her ability. Is she jumping and tumbling in the air while cutting her enemies?

Still, I'm looking forward in the next chapters. I think the story is getting more appealing. Looks like its going to end soon. But I hope not!

It needs to end soon. The story have so much potential, but the fact it is monthly, not weekly release is killing it, so I prefer to finish it now rather than dragging it and make people lose interest in it. The fact that I had to read the previous chapter to remember what happened sucks... It is becoming like Berserk (even if Berserk is a lot more worse now)

If it was a weekly release, it'd be perfect. This arc will end faster, and also the author can do another arc to see the so called war between the dragonic tribe or whatever, and the organisation and stuff.

Anyway, it was a decent chapter, nothing really spectacular anyway

[Joe7133]

As for Anastasia, that is what I call resourceful! Yes, that was a very interesting feat. But that number 15 girl, I really can't still fully understand her ability. Is she jumping and tumbling in the air while cutting her enemies?

She sends a string of her hair flying to attach to her opponent and other object like web. Her hair has like Yoki energy, very low Yoki energy. Anastasia can step on her hair and make it look like she is fighting in mid air.

What I said earlier was my opinion, Yagi made this chapter too quick and it felt like he was just rushing. The hair thing was pretty dumb or pointless. Any good Yoki reader can see her Yoki hair thread. All the juicy plot and he just focus on this group. Not even finishing it too with an introduction of both group. There should have been at least 8 more pages to do that.

One more month of waiting isn't cool.

[HegemonKhan]

someone else on another site described Anastasia's ability very well:

Anastasia the Spider

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personally, I would like to still be reading Claymore when I'm 100 years old

(though if it were possible to make it a weekly, or even just a half-monthly, while KEEPING it's quality, that would obviously be best of course)

[ZERO PHOENIX]

Do I have to be the one to say it? Do I have to be that guy? OK.

That chapter was weak.

Sure we learned about Anastasia's technique and we learned more about her team. But let's actually iron out a few things before praising that exercise in patience. So we've seen that Anastasia has something of an aristocratic attitude similar to Galatea but she cares about her team in the same vein as Miria. She's a hottie but it's hard to say that she has depth when she's just a composite character. I'm not hating simply stating the facts. We've seen Anastasia in action for two chapters and this reader at least can safely say that she's Miria number two. Only difference is that Anastasia is still rolling with MIB.

Nike or whatever her name was is also Helen with a larger forehead and shorter hair. Do we really need another Helen? Really? I like Helen, I like her personality. Why do I like her? Because she's unique. When most of the Claymore's a hot babes whose personalities make them mostly unapproachable, Helen is the type of gal that you can introduce to your folks or just chill with. Anyone who hates Claymore's will change their minds after one drink with Helen. Unless she does something to them which we can't rule out. This jovial nonsense aside you get my point. Helen is the most human out of all the warriors, she has a great deal of depth in that regard as well I might add. She is special because in a world of monsters she is the closest thing to a human being.

I'm not dissing the Claymore's simply nailing down the appeal of Helen. She's as normal as you can get for someone who has the flesh of a monster. Enter Anastasia's teammate from stage right and we're looking at attack of the clones. And for anyone who took exception to me saying that she's just Helen with a larger forehead and shorter hair that's really all she is. My flames exist for facts, not characters. Helen's forehead isn't all that small either but her hair mutes that physical characteristic. Helen number two (Nike, Phina, or whatever her name was) has shorter hair thus the characteristc is not muted it is enhanced.

Anastasia's secret technique doesn't have any real battle applications. Let's keep it real. Don't get me wrong, there is a tremendous degree of potential there if she can use her yoki to constrict her hair, or if she could send yoki through it to paralyze her opponents. Even if she's able to use her hair like spider webs to set-up a parameter and pick up on any yoki signatures that enter her web great, but all she's doing is tight-rope walking. That's not exactly spectacular on behalf of our author.

The chapter before last gave us very little action but the content as a whole more than made up for it. This chapter however left little need to download or even go back for a second read.

[HegemonKhan]

Anastasia's "Web" Ability, does allow her to "change directions in the air", so in this sense, it has some advantages (albiet small and/or neglible) as no other Claymore can do this. Once a Claymore jumps, they're stuck on their trajectory, with only agile acrobatics when airborne to try to dodge attacks. This is why smart NYs (such as those "coached" and serving under Riful NYs in the Witches Maw at her lair's entrance), try to make the Claymores jump into the air. So, Anastasi's "Web" ability does give her this advantage. But, as I said, it's not much of an advantage/ability.

[White Silver King]

I would, of course, prefer Claymore to be weekly. It's one of my favorite mangas but this once a month thing is killing it especially since the chapters haven't been keeping up the 30+ page norm.

[HegemonKhan]

most chapters are 30 pages, i'm not sure what you're talking about, unless you mean the recent single ch 111, lol. that's hardly many chapters, at only 20 pages.

20 page chapters happen here and there, and....

there's A LOT of BIG STUFF COMING, so let's allow Yagi the time to prepare it for us!!! hehe

(I wouldn't be surprised if this short 20 page ch 111, is done to give Yagi more time to prepare something epic in the coming chapters, hehe)

yes, everyone would of course prefer it being weekly, but the question then is whether Claymore could keep its quality up.

Claymore just keeps getting more and more exciting and better! the wait though is annoying, hehe. everyone agrees on this, lol.