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    Re: [Featured] Shingeki no Kyojin by ISAYAMA Hajime

    From kodansha light novel site

    Cover for novel. It takes place in 743. The characters in the novel are not those from the manga, though. Isayama is not involved either, so...

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    By the way, someone knows when next chapter will be released? (i mean the raw, not the scanlated version)
    Probably a week or two from now?

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    Re: [Featured] Shingeki no Kyojin by ISAYAMA Hajime

    The cover is pretty. Wonder if this will be a standalone or the first from a series..
    Do you know who is the author of this novel?
    Last edited by DassJennir; October 29, 2011 at 03:12 PM.
    Shingeki no Kyojin

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    Re: [Featured] Shingeki no Kyojin by ISAYAMA Hajime

    Isayama Hajime officially announced/admitted that he copied Muvl-Luv Alternative for Shingeki no Kyojin. I wonder if this will have impact on SnK's popularity.

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    Re: [Featured] Shingeki no Kyojin by ISAYAMA Hajime

    Quote Originally Posted by Negative Syndicate View Post
    Isayama Hajime officially announced/admitted that he copied Muvl-Luv Alternative for Shingeki no Kyojin. I wonder if this will have impact on SnK's popularity.

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    I'm guessing what he took was the concept of the story which was:
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    Muv-Luv Unlimited takes place in an alternate world to Extra, where aliens called BETA (an acronym for "Beings of the Extra Terrestrial origin which is Adversary of human race") have invaded and mankind fights back against the alien aggressors with giant robots called Senjutsuhokousentouki (戦術歩行戦闘機?, Tactical Surface Fighter), usually referred to as simply Senjutsuki (戦術機?), as almost all conventional weapons were ineffective.

    The BETA first arrived on Earth in 1973 (in China and Canada) after arriving on the Moon in 1967 and being spotted on Mars in 1958. By 2001, the world population has been reduced to 1 billion people, and most of Europe and central Asia have been wiped out. The Soviet Union, though, is still around, operating out of Alaska. When the BETA first arrived in Japan in 1998, 36 million people were dead within a week.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muv-Luv

    I don't really see this as being TOO MUCH of an impact given that Muv-Luv is still first and foremost a romance rather than a post apocalyptic survival manga. Sides extra-terrestrial beings wiping out the planet isn't anything THAT UNIQUE, Angel Notes anyone? Moreover, its not a mecha used to fight back against the titans but people. UNLESS of course Shingeki no Kyojin actually ripped lines or scenes off Muv-Luv word for word or at least a paraphrase of it then that would be quite damaging but otherwise if its just the concept of the plot I wouldn't think it to be anything too affecting, its still very much his own.
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    Re: [Featured] Shingeki no Kyojin by ISAYAMA Hajime

    I guess that'd mean we can soon expect to get apologies from 90% of all shounen action mangakas for copying Dragon Ball and the likes
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    Re: [Featured] Shingeki no Kyojin by ISAYAMA Hajime

    Quote Originally Posted by ruggia View Post
    I guess that'd mean we can soon expect to get apologies from 90% of all shounen action mangakas for copying Dragon Ball and the likes
    Well, in precise, Isayama didn't apologized, he just admitted that he copied.

    I don't know why he wrote it as copied, it was more like he received influence.

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    Re: [Featured] Shingeki no Kyojin by ISAYAMA Hajime

    Quote Originally Posted by Negative Syndicate View Post
    Well, in precise, Isayama didn't apologized, he just admitted that he copied.

    I don't know why he wrote it as copied, it was more like he received influence.
    That is a poor choice of wording if ever that was the case. Would be better if some fans of Muv-Luv did the comparison since they'd be the ones at the better position to clarify this. However, considering how many volumes in the manga is along with its popularity that no one has mentioned anything about Muv-Luv prior might be an indicator that its probably more of loosely influenced than copied, but because it was such a common trope its not as if it was an easily identifiable influence.
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    Re: [Featured] Shingeki no Kyojin by ISAYAMA Hajime

    Quote Originally Posted by Negative Syndicate View Post
    Isayama Hajime officially announced/admitted that he copied Muvl-Luv Alternative for Shingeki no Kyojin. I wonder if this will have impact on SnK's popularity.

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    Well, actually he already said the same thing half a year ago. And this time confession/special illust is made for the new tankoubon of Muvluv comic, right?
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    Re: [Featured] Shingeki no Kyojin by ISAYAMA Hajime

    Can anyone translate what the announcement actually says. There is a huge information gap as to what is actually meant by "copied". If all he is saying is that the plot of Muv Luv inspired Shingeki, who cares. If he actually copied art, that's plagiarism and the end of the series. Until there is some clarity as to what he "copied" this bit of news is rather meaningless.

    Personally, if all Isayama wrote is that he read Muv Luv and it helped inspire Shingeki, that is hardly news that would impact the series. Kubo Tite stated that the he was inspired by characters from Honey and Clover when he first designed Ichigo and Orihime. Yamada and Orihime are near identical, and I don't think anyone was ever bothered.

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    Re: [Featured] Shingeki no Kyojin by ISAYAMA Hajime

    Well, he uses the word "pakuri" that means plagiarism. Saying he really influenced by it. I think it's more like a neta, a topic for people to talk about. Some haters like Yarabuta really love the bait, I guess.
    Never played Muvluv myself, so I can't comment about it.
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    Re: [Featured] Shingeki no Kyojin by ISAYAMA Hajime

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    Re: [Featured] Shingeki no Kyojin by ISAYAMA Hajime

    The movie-adaptation for Shengki no Kyojin will be released on fall of 2013.

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