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Translations: Bleach 595 (2)
Ikkaku vs. Aaroniero
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Madarame Ikkaku is the 3rd Seat of the 11th Division in the Gotei 13. His captain is Zaraki Kenpachi. Ikkaku is a stereotypical 11th Division member — violent, fight-loving, and rude. Ikkaku considers fighting fun, just as his captain does, and tries to get as much fun as he can out of his opponents, so much so that he would take deadly risks to drag out the fight for as long as possible.
With his shikai command is "Grow," his zanpakutō, Hōzukimaru, becomes what looks like a naginata, but Ikkaku can use "Split" command to separate his naginata into its true form which is a Sansetsukon. Ikkaku's bankai, Ryūmon Hōzukimaru, gets increasingly more powerful as the fight drags on, interestingly different from most of the other bankai.
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Aaroniero Arruruerie is the ninth Espada and last of the first-generation Espada. He has two skulls suspended in an unknown fluid contained in a glass tank for a head. Having been a Gillian before becoming an Arrancar, he rose in power by devouring the hollows, acquiring their abilities, power, and knowledge in the process. By absorbing the hollow Metastacia, Aaroniero also gained access to the abilities, knowledge, and even physical characteristics of Shiba Kaien and his zanpakutō, Nejibana, which can create and manipulate torrents of water. Upon the release of his own zanpakutō, Glotonería, Aaroniero transforms into a massive, monstrous blob and gains access to all of his absorbed abilities at once.
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Last edited by igotthegoods; January 19, 2011 at 06:13 PM.
Ikkaku wins this fight with realitive ease. His bankai is just too overwhelming for this level of an opponent.
This one is tricky. Aaroneiro weilding Nejibana will be more than enough to keep Ikkaku on guard. But ikkaku is a quicker and more experienced fighter than Rukia so maybe he wont have such a hard time. But that's not even considering bankai yet for me.
With bankai Ikkaku is in position to do serious damage to the least durable of the espada. With a full charge up I see Ikkaku as a threat to anyone. He took out Edorads attack and went straight on through the rest of his body.
Ikkaku. I might have given it to the espada... provided we knew virtually ANY of his 30000 abilities. >>
All we really got on him is Kaien and his water trident. Suffice to say, more than that is necessary to stop Ikkaku's Bankai.
However #9 might be able to pull a win... If he had the hollow that absorbed Kaien's OTHER ability. You remember it, the one which allows you to, once a day, completely and utterly destroy a Zanpakuto by touch. Ikkaku's going to be boned barehanded, least durable espada or not, particularly if he waits to go bankai again. However I'm not sure if he even still has that ability, or the mechanics behind his absorbing Kaien to say the least...
Assuming there is no stupidity on arroniero's part then he should have quite an easy victory IMO. Seriously, this guy was a espada. In a straight fight ikkaku does not have a sliver of a chance in hell of getting near the tank. Rukia was grossly overwhelmed by him, she only got lucky.
True but a major part of Arroniero's strength while fighting Rukia was based on Kaien's abilities not his own. Arroniero's ability outside of Kaien's was simply his release which used the power from all the hollows he consumed. Although it would take Ikkaku a while to use his bankai no doubt, he should have the upperhand in this fight. Arroniero's weakness is his head, you break his head, he dies, though I doubt Ikkaku would do that so quickly if at all. He's more like Zaraki and likes to actually fight his opponents, but his sheer power would be enough to take Arroniero down as long as his pride and blood thirst were kept in check.
I went for the Espada. The guy should be able to disintegrate Ikkaku's Zan just like Kaien. Even if he can't, for whatever reason, he's still an Espada, and FAR stronger than Edorad. Ikkaku busted his sword against a Fraccion when they collided, how could he beat Aaroniero?
I'm not sure why someone has already said that Aaroniero is stupid, he was trying to get Rukia to kill her friends, and even once he was discovered, he was just mindfucking her because of her connection to Kaien. Ikkaku has no common ally that Aaroniero has absorbed, that means he'll have no need to pull on him what he did to Rukia.
Also, Rukia was HORRIBLY outclassed, she got lucky, and won for the plot. In a battle thread where you should compare things based on abilities, and not plot purpose, he'd win every time.
If Ikkaku struggles at ALL versus a Fraccion, it's clear he won't be beating an Espada.
He didn't struggle once he released his bankai he killed that arrancar fairly quickly. Problem was he waited until he was half dead to use his bankai. Had he used it from the get-go I think he would defeated that arrancar without having his bankai broken in the process. You can blame his crap shikai and unwillingness to use his bankai. Also, who's to say exactly how big of a difference in power there was between fraccions and the 9th espada.
I don't think Rukia's victory was 100% plot. It's true that the final dance thing was luck, but she could have potentially finished him when she fired that chanted hadou 73. If I remember correctly even Aaroniero asked her why she aimed it at the wall instead of himself because it would have injured him.
Last edited by El Samurai Guapo; January 25, 2011 at 12:53 AM.
However, it's been illustrated before that Ikkaku's Bankai is a big chunk of energy, but not all that durable. He may not have busted his Zan if he was 100%, but I bet it gets some pretty bad dents.
If the Fraccions were better than Aaroniero, they probably would have been Espada themselves. I know Aaroniero isn't the best Espada, but rather the one with the most potential. Still, he completely manhandled Rukia throughout the whole fight, which at the bare minimum shows that he would likely knock Ikkaku around pretty bad in his unreleased state. Important to note that Ikkaku cannot use Kido either, so it's just a pure sword fight.
Yes, but the whole reason he left himself open was because he was still going with the "mindfuck plan". Against Ikkaku, I doubt his attitude would be even remotely the same.Quote:
I'm not 100% sure on what Aaroniero's release is actually good for here, as access to all of his abilities can't be used for a win because we've seen none of them :P
Ikkaku has enough power to take down the least impressive Espada. Espada yes but Aaroneiro really showed nothing exclusive enough to take down someone with a bankai. He even lost to Rukia's shikai, irrespective of the manner. He still lost the battle. Ikkaku has proficient speed, strength, and mobility to compete with his resurrection.
Last edited by thornofcarrion; January 25, 2011 at 01:46 AM.
Yeah, the very fact that Aaroneiro focused more on "mindfucking" Rukia rather than just outright defeating her actually tells me the dude wasn't that strong. Granted that at first he was trying to get her to go and attack her comrades, but after it was clear that wasn't going to work I don't see why he chose to continue that whole charade.Quote:
I'll go with Ikkaku.
A good hit on Aaroniero's ugly face will do it~
Well, Ikkaku will probably want to drag the fight some at first, but when he sees himself pressured...he will go all out. They are alone here, so Ikkaku will not hesitate to use his Bankai, and we know that Ikkaku fights to the death. Further, I don't think that Aaroniero is known for being extremely durable, so yeah. In all fairness though, Aaroniero's resurreccion could be dangerous, but the fact that his released state is seriously lacking in feats really does not help his case....
Why is that? Aizen mindfucked people all the time, doesn't mean he's weak. Aaroniero had a way to manipulate Rukia, so he took it. Not really any different than Aizen, Hinamori, and Hitsu.Quote:
And he continued with it because if your opponent is mindfucked, they'll be fighting predictably and recklessly. He HAD her beat, he lost because he had to.