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    Re: PoT and NPoT Technique Tier List

    Quote Originally Posted by LetalHawk View Post
    I'm saying that Ryoma could have break through it if he wanted to. He only shot to the right because he wanted to humiliate Migihashi, but if it was a real match, then Ryoma would have break Right Saver, since he perfectly know how to break TZone.

    Moreover, not only Ryoma, but top players like Yukimura and Sanada would have defeated Migihashi.

    But Right Saver is an amazing technique like TZone, so it's hard to break, but top players should be able to deal with it perfectly.
    Ryoma can perfectly break Tezuka Zone? I didnt see that. Remember Anime-fillers dont count.
    He didnt humiliate Migihashi. Only one got through. At that moment unfortunately the anime may have screwed up by making Migihashi awesome.

    Why could Ryoma have broken it if he wanted to? He couldnt. Not til the end could he break it.
    You say only shot to the right?? He had no choice. The technique forced it to the right. He only broke it at the end.

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    Re: PoT and NPoT Technique Tier List

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    Ryoma can perfectly break Tezuka Zone? I didnt see that. Remember Anime-fillers dont count.
    He didnt humiliate Migihashi. Only one got through. At that moment unfortunately the anime may have screwed up by making Migihashi awesome.

    Why could Ryoma have broken it if he wanted to? He couldnt. Not til the end could he break it.
    You say only shot to the right?? He had no choice. The technique forced it to the right. He only broke it at the end.
    He has saw it countless times in manga and anime also, so he knows how to defeat it.

    And I'm not saying he humiliated him. Echizen could have defeated him if it was an entire set. Migihashi can't pass Echizen as we saw, Ryoma has mounstrously improved and has surpassed players like Migihashi, and reached Tokugawa's level.

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    Re: PoT and NPoT Technique Tier List

    Tezuka Zone is very complicated. Since there is a different spin every time is is so hard to identify the spin and counter it. However with Right Saver, the spin is always the same: counter-clockwise sidespin, so Echizen could break it by hitting a backhand Drive C.
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    Re: PoT and NPoT Technique Tier List

    Quote Originally Posted by LetalHawk View Post
    He has saw it countless times in manga and anime also, so he knows how to defeat it.

    And I'm not saying he humiliated him. Echizen could have defeated him if it was an entire set. Migihashi can't pass Echizen as we saw, Ryoma has mounstrously improved and has surpassed players like Migihashi, and reached Tokugawa's level.
    This is just what I already said. I said it would be close if it was an entire set.
    Also, just coz Ryoma has seen how doesnt mean he can easily do it. Inui has all the data on Tezuka Zone and his seen it longer than Ryoma. Your saying he can defeat coz of that? No.
    As amazing as Ryoma is, it wont be easy for him to break Tezuka Zone since Tezuka is awesome-ness. Remember anime-fillers DONT count.

    Point is, Ryoma would have likely lost that first game had it stayed with one ball. Migihashi seemed like he was all about testing Ryoma from the start. The way he said at the start ''Its the rule to accept challenges from Black Jersey Brigaders''. Migihashi didnt seem like he was trying to get a point with every shot he took. He was just showing off his Right Saver technique. Im saying Ryoma would win a fairly close match.

    Quote Originally Posted by LetalHawk View Post
    Ryoma has mounstrously improved and has surpassed players like Migihashi, and reached Tokugawa's level.
    Weve seen Tokugawa go all out have we? We dont know this yet either.

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    Re: PoT and NPoT Technique Tier List

    We don't know, but at least he returned that serve and was keeping up with him easily, before going to the mountains, Tokugawa crushed him, but now Ryoma has been able to rally with him comfortably, so he improved a great deal considering that. I'm saying at least he can hold his own against him.

    Still, I think he has yet to get serious and has to show a technique that makes him above Ryoma. Probably, we should see him going all out against Byodouin, and finally defeat him and becoming the new No.1

    And about Migihashi, he wasn't holding back at all. When he saw Echizen hit 10 balls, he couldn't believe it, that's why a ball got past him. Echizen would defeat him, I agree that in a close match, but Migihashi isn't able to hit 10 balls, so Echizen surpassed him. You can't deny that.
    Last edited by LetalHawk; March 31, 2012 at 05:24 AM.

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    Re: PoT and NPoT Technique Tier List

    Quote Originally Posted by LetalHawk View Post
    And about Migihashi, he wasn't holding back at all. When he saw Echizen hit 10 balls, he couldn't believe it, that's why a ball got past him. Echizen would defeat him, I agree that in a close match, but Migihashi isn't able to hit 10 balls, so Echizen surpassed him. You can't deny that.
    Your right about Echizen surpassing him and being better. I agree also. Ryoma currently is without doubt stronger than Migihashi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    Your right about Echizen surpassing him and being better. I agree also. Ryoma currently is without doubt stronger than Migihashi.
    What's strange is Oishi. Oishi defeating a 2nd court player? Oishi? Well then, he now should be able to defeat Kikumaru since his stats were poor at the start and now his abilities should have increased far more than I was expecting.

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    Re: PoT and NPoT Technique Tier List

    Quote Originally Posted by LetalHawk View Post
    What's strange is Oishi. Oishi defeating a 2nd court player? Oishi? Well then, he now should be able to defeat Kikumaru since his stats were poor at the start and now his abilities should have increased far more than I was expecting.
    Well, friends and I immediately theorized that 2nd Court must have had 2 Doubles Specialists or Doubles-but-weak-at-Singles players like 3rd Court has Washio and Suzuki.
    It could have been that the 2nd Court Doubles players played separately to take on Oishi and Shishido. I mean, Washio and Suzuki separately we can assume are Shishido level.
    Or Oishi was playing doubles with someone and Shishido was playing Doubles with someone when we saw them in action.
    Coz your quite right to be confused when Oishi's Singles skill level is fairly... Shit.

    And dont be silly about Oishi defeating Kikumaru lol. The anime changed things. Kikumaru >> Oishi. Remember Kikumaru can use Seal Step to make a clone, and his stamina is above Oishi's. Kikumaru handed Oishi 2 points in the manga. IGNORE the anime match. Kikumaru WILL kick Oishi's ass. In the anime Kikumaru didnt even get serious or use his Beam or Bazooka.
    Konomi doesnt run the anime. For stats and stuff the Manga is the one to reference. More so for Part II than Part I.

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    Re: PoT and NPoT Technique Tier List

    I put Ochi's Eye in. It's called Mental Assassination (for now).
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    Re: PoT and NPoT Technique Tier List

    Duke Homerun added.
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    Re: PoT and NPoT Technique Tier List

    How do we know it's Rank SS? All we know for now is that it is stronger than the 108th Hadokyu. But, the Kinatro's move and Kawamura's Final Hadokyu is also stronger than the 108th Hadokyu. So, how do we know Duke Homerun is stronger than both of those?

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    Well if Gin was blown away by Duke Homerun and only suffered a broken wrist from Final Hadoukyu...
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    Re: PoT and NPoT Technique Tier List

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandnewkid View Post
    How do we know it's Rank SS? All we know for now is that it is stronger than the 108th Hadokyu. But, the Kinatro's move and Kawamura's Final Hadokyu is also stronger than the 108th Hadokyu. So, how do we know Duke Homerun is stronger than both of those?
    Because the laws of advancement say it would be stupid to introduce a new "stronger" power player without having his techniques being stronger than the previous ones already shown. That alone makes him not stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandnewkid View Post
    How do we know it's Rank SS? All we know for now is that it is stronger than the 108th Hadokyu. But, the Kinatro's move and Kawamura's Final Hadokyu is also stronger than the 108th Hadokyu. So, how do we know Duke Homerun is stronger than both of those?
    The Final Hadokyuu was only in the anime, and the serve that Kawamura hit was only equivalent to a 40th or 50th level Hadokyuu in the first place. When Kawamura hits a 108th, he breaks a steel pole.

    In terms of whether Duke Homerun is superior to anything Oni can hit, we're not sure. Sai told us that there was something about Duke Homerun in relation to Oni's strength, but he couldn't translate it on the spot, so he wasn't sure exactly.

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    Re: PoT and NPoT Technique Tier List

    I don't see Bane's Pronation Serve anywhere...
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