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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
Difference is, Yondaime's accomplishments are actually Narutos, since it was Naruto that surpassed hate, mastered the Kyuubi, got aknowledged by all, managed to do what Yondaime and Kushina couldn't ( share Kyuubi's chakra to everyone ) and ultimately save the world.
His cells are his dooing lol. Those are part of him. Even if people are using them with no "ok" from him he still has a HUGE influence on everything going on curently. Obito would not even be ALIVE if not for him.
Itachi prevented a war that would trow Konoha in a war world but in no shape or fashion prevented the anihilation of the village. No idea how you got from world war to anihilation of Konoha. Hell not even the coup would end Konoha.. Sure deaths would be there(a lot of them) and the village would not end up exacly stable but still...
Stopping Kabuto... Yeah all nice and well BUT those EDO's where already stopped, well most of them. They where sealed off or traped somehow.
As for Naruto... Don't know. Not even when facing JMan. Its compllicated to deduce what would have happened if he was not there.
Of course Itachi has done a LOT but i don't belive for him to be ABOVE Hashirama.
Who cares when what happened. The fact that it happened before the story began (and its not exacly true as pieces of said events are trown in everything) its not relevant.
RS is not even in this topic now is he? Its irrelevant.
Now with no Hashirama and you get NOTHING from curent age. There would be NO Naruto, NO Sasuke and so on... He founded the base for everything. How would Kushina and Minato even meet if it was not for him and what he did for the village?
How about Obito and the hell he did if Hashirama was not there si Obitro has his cells?
If you remove any of the topic people from history the most effect would be from Hashirama.
if u think about Itachi he lost his influence point if u think about sasuke because he never want his bother to become bad ninja he wanted his brother to protect village but as we see sasuke think differently and right now asking other's for advice
if u think about influence naruto is also good candidate because who ever meet him they start to respect/like him
best candidate is Senju Hashirama because we see him less then 10 chapters but lots of people like him
Last edited by suraj5898; February 22, 2013 at 01:26 PM.
Also, Obito's plans were held back because of Itachi because he feared him. Obtio didn't start moving things at a large scale until after Itachi's death and even admitted Itachi could have killed him unless he held back key secrets from him.
Oh, Itachi himself I agree. but he didn't stop other Akatsuki - Deidara was still aiming to capture him while Kakuzu didn't mind killing Naruto. Hell, Kisame would have gotten Naruto too if Sasuke and JIraiya didn't interfere.
Obviously because Itachi is just that awesome. Even Minato couldn't strike that kind of fear in Tobi.
As for the individual members, yes, they could have caused damage, but Obito, the man pulling the strings, wouldn't have done anything until Itachi died. The fact he didnt kill him outright despite Itachi being sick shows us how much influence he had.
well, to be fair Tobi could have been using Itachi in order to get Sasuke. Have Sasuke kill ITachi and then tell him the truth, which would unlock Mangekyo and make Sasuke hate Konoha.
I'm guessing Tobi's plan with Sasuke either got ruined or the timing of events allowed Sasuke to be all "fuck this" and abandon Tobi, who's currently fighting.
Minato because he sealed the kyuubi in Naruto and basically helped create the ninja alliance