Hiashi and Hizashi Hyuugas vs Tobi

[AlB]

Right, I know, weird match-up. but interesting nevertheless. do you think Gentle Fist will be able to damage Tobi's chakra system and prevent him from using his hax techs like Izanagi and Time-Space? or will the slippery b*stard prove himself in the fight with ultimate users of Byakugan? you choose

Scenario 1
Tobi does not have a Rinnegan

Scenario 2
Tobi has a Rinnegan

[chilibun]

Madara wins. He would slip right through the gentle fist. All chakra attacks (rasengan, chidori, etc.) have slipped through him so far so gentle fist should be no different.

[mattiaildivino]

tobi would win,he has also Izanagi.and he is invulnerable.there's no chance they could defeat him!

[Jessie]

Zero chance for them winning in any scenario. You need something like Minato's hax speed, the talents of a legend like the First, ridiculous intelligence, or massive amounts of prep-time(Konan) to even hurt Madara. And even then Madara has too many ways to escape death.

It's going to take Naruto and Sasuke at their peak working together to defeat Madara. Did you honestly think two Hyuuga can do that?

[AlB]

if you mean two strongest Hyuugas in the world then yes. fact is, Madara needs to be tangible in order to carry out succesful attacks. individually neither Hiashi nor Hizashi stand any chance, but together I'd say they would take at least scenario 1. While Madara goes at one of them the other one may seal his chakra network and render his ability to perform Izanagi and T/S tech useless.

[chilibun]

if you mean two strongest Hyuugas in the world then yes. fact is, Madara needs to be tangible in order to carry out succesful attacks. individually neither Hiashi nor Hizashi stand any chance, but together I'd say they would take at least scenario 1. While Madara goes at one of them the other one may seal his chakra network and render his ability to perform Izanagi and T/S tech useless.

I hate to make the same argument in every Madara vs. thread, but the speed of his s/t jutsu is not something you can react to. You never know when he is intangible or not and he can change between states almost instantaneously.

[Veloratrix]

That may be the case, but at the first sign of contact all they have to do is release their chakra and kaiten his ass. Its really not a matchup that either can win or lose in scenario 1.

[xXan]

That may be the case, but at the first sign of contact all they have to do is release their chakra and kaiten his ass. Its really not a matchup that either can win or lose in scenario 1.

1 can give you 1 sure way for Madara to win that(100%).

Madara activates Izanagi and seals 1 of them. The other hits him and Madara goes "poof". Then its 1 vs 1 and he stomps.

[IChallengeYou!]

I'm not really sure how you can pit two fighters which shown close to nothing in the manga so far against Madara. However, since like you said they carry the names of "strongest Hyuuga ever", I wouldn't really give Madara such an easy win. With Rinnengan, yeah he'd steamroll, but with his regular Sharingan he may have some hard times with them. Did you forget that the 2 Danzo's bodyguards managed to "wound" him, even though it did cost them their lives, basically? Teamwork + Hax powers (which I'm pretty sure the Hyuuga posses at some stage) is a good combo against Madara as seen from that fight, problem is...Well...It's Madara they're fighting, not some wannabe-tier ninja.

[AlB]

^ We know that one touch from either of those guys and a victim will not be able to accomplish simplest of Ninjutsu, no?

I agree, we do not know full scope of their abilities, but there's nothing wrong with speculating, no?

[ninjabot]

There's only been a few instances where Madara's 2 only jutsu have been overcome.

1: Minato beat the intangibility and warping with greater speed.
2: Konan beat it with prep time that told her how long he can stay intangible and how he teleports.
3: Shino and Hinata found out his chakra is still there when he's intangible, and thus attacks that attack chakra can... sap his chakra I guess. That's how the bugs started biting him and following him.

So honestly, do you think Hiashi or Hizashi can move as fast as Minato, that they have knowledge on the time limit of Madara's ST jutsu, or that their Jyuuken can do anything more than deminish his chakra (maybe)? They have to pierce his tenketsu to turn off his chakra, and that's not possible if he's intangible. When he's intangible I think he's just a cloud of chakra with no real network of chakra (thus, no tenketsu), but I could be wrong.

[kelv015]

if you mean two strongest Hyuugas in the world then yes. fact is, Madara needs to be tangible in order to carry out succesful attacks. individually neither Hiashi nor Hizashi stand any chance, but together I'd say they would take at least scenario 1. While Madara goes at one of them the other one may seal his chakra network and render his ability to perform Izanagi and T/S tech useless.

In a 2-1 situation (like when he confronted Danzo's lap dogs). He never went to them directly. He either waited for them to attack him, or cautiously attacked them from behind or under (like when he came from the ground). And in this case neither Hyuuga will be battle to do anything. Only reason Madara was hit during that fight was because only by touching the Aburame his bugs would go on to attack his cells...something a Hyuuga would never do since he has to make contact with his palms, hands, whatever to seal the chakra ports. So no, Hyuugas can't win either scenario...