Ukitake Jūshirō vs Yasutora Sado (aka Chad)

[igotthegoods]

Ukitake vs. Chad

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Ukitake Ukitake Jūshirō, 13th division captain, is a genial idealist with a soft spot for children. He is one of the oldest captains in Gotei 13 and praised by the captain-commander as being one of the finest shinigami to graduate from the shinigami academy. He has long suffered from an episodic illness that limits his endurance and occasionally causes him to cough blood. As a Gotei 13 captain, he is proficient in various forms of shinigami combat. His shikai, Sōgyo no Kotowari, absorbs energy attacks and redirects them with varied speed and intensity.

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Chad Yasutora Sado (aka Chad) is a quiet human teenager with a soft spot for cute things. Despite his large, intimidating presence, he has a tendency to be bullied because he rarely fights back. That is, unless someone he cares about is threatened, in which case he will put all of his efforts into protecting them. Chad is much stronger and faster than the average human and has an unnaturally high resistance to damage. Chad's awakened spiritual ability has manifested in the form of armored arms (Brazo Derecha de Gigante and Brazo Izquierda del Diablo). He is also able to use the special attacks El Directo and La Muerte.

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Cast your vote and discuss (logically) why you voted for who you voted for. Have fun, but keep it clean!

[Tsukisama]

Something to consider before casting your vote:

Ukitake gets ill quite frequently. Moreover, despite his hype, think carefully about just how many impressive things Ukitake has ever done in the manga on his own...

Is it possible for Chad to take advantage of Ukitake's poor health to win the match?

[El Samurai Guapo]

Wow for some reason I thought Ukitake Juushirou was left out of the tournament. I guess I didn't look closely at the second-round characters.

I'm going to say Juushirou wins this, despite his illness and his lack of feats, it's just natural that he's stronger than Chad. Some things you don't necessarily need to see. When a character is a captain (or has been one in the passed) you can safely assume they're up there in strength, and that their shinigami skills are top-notch.

[Random101]

Ukitake. Why? Chad's major weakness is slash damage, no question. He has no adequate defense to actually hold up against this, and honestly no real way to block it from an opponent more powerful than him, or indeed around the same level like virtually everyone else in this series. This is a weakness that would be all too easy to revert if Kubo gave him Hierro or some goddamn HSR to deal with it, but unfortunately all he's left with is some arms that don't hold up against much other than blunt damage and cero type moves. Sadly for that very reason he doesn't have much of a chance here, much less against two swords to top that off, and somehow worse still the ability to redirect his ranged techs back at him and avoid getting hit completely.

Granted his major offensive is a CQC technique that's likely not reflect-able... but good freaking luck trying to get that close.

[freshseth83]

Juushiro, definitely! Chad is strong, but it doesn't mean anything. His speed isn't anywhere near Ukitake's. He even embarrassed Byakuya back in SS arc! Chapter 116 will show you that, he comes out of nowhere and stops Byakuya by grabbing his hand. That's some speed right there. No way Chad is able to do that. Ukitake, even though frail, is way out of Chad's league.

[Sydin]

Right, let's see here.

One important thing to note immediately is that this is a close range battle for Chad. The only real power we've seen from Ukitake is his shikai: absorb incoming energy, amplify it, then send it out as a counter. This renders the majority of long range attacks on Ukitake effectively powerless, doubly so for Chad's who's energy blasts are frankly strong but slow, a bad combo for absorption.

Thus, Chad needs to get up close and personal to fight, while Ukitake can sit back, have some tea, and fire off kido blasts. But Chad is quick, and Ukitake is weak, in fact their conditions are pretty much opposite: Old and frail vs young and healthy. So I'm going to assume Chad can dodge the worst of the kido. Now he's up in Ukitake's face.

Ukitake has 2 blades to attack and defend with, while Chad has one arm to punch and one arm to block. Considering Ukitake has centuries of battle experience, and Chad is just a kid off the streets, Ukitake should have no problem deflecting incoming blows with his blade, and countering in return. The question is: can Chad's shield block Ukitake's blade? Since Ukitake has been stated to be pretty strong, I'll assume his spirit energy is rather immense, which means he can put some force behind his blows. Chad's arm thus will take some of the damage, but he can't take too many before getting beaten.

However, Chad's strengths are twofold: Raw physical attack power, and raw physical defense/endurance. While he may very well get overwhelmed quickly into the fight, he can last much longer than Ukitake can. Against Kaien, Ukitake got sick less than a minute into the fighting, while on the other hand Chad has shown the potential to take a massive beating and stay standing.

Verdict:
Believe it or not, I'm going to contradict everybody in this thread so far and give my vote to Chad. Reason: I don't see Ukitake being able to deal out enough damage to bring Chad down before he becomes incapacitated by his illness. Note since we don't know his bankai, I'm not even counting it as a factor. Most likely using bankai would speed up his illness, and give him even less time. For Ukitake to take down Chad before becoming unfit to fight, he'd need a 1-2 shot attack, which he simply has not been shown to possess. Chad on the other hand might not have the skills to contend in a full blown battle against Ukitake, but all he really needs to do is still be standing when Ukitake has a coughing fit, then beat him down quickly.

[freshseth83]

That's funny. I guess you didn't see when Lillynette was in his face and he just brushed her aside like she wasn't there. Her cero as well. Matter of fact, Chad's powers were said to be close to that of a hollow rather than a shinigami. So if that's the case who's to say that his blasts can't be absorbed. You really think Chad is on the level of Ukitake? Even if he has TB, he's not weak. His body maybe a little frail compared to some other captains, but he's not to be taken lightly. Chad is outclassed by far. He couldn't even touch Shunsui and there he was, sitting there drinking tea like you said. How long did that 'endurance' last? This is a captain. He's not going anywhere. Ukitake will smile, Chad will try to run up and attack him, Ukitake will say that's very spirited, then slice him the same way Shunsui did in SS, on top of it all he'll probably apologize, and get him a medic.

[Sydin]

Except Lillynette was pretty weak (Ukitake commented on her ceros being ill formed, and her attacks were sporadic and lacking in technique) until she merged with Stark.

I already said his blasts could be absorbed, I conceded that.

I also said that Chad clearly Is not on the level of Ukitake, but that isn't the point. do you think Hollow!Kaien was on the level of Ukitake? Do you think that big hollow that got one shotted by a kick was on the level of Ukitake? Of course not, but in the first instance he couldn't continue the battle (almost resulting in Rukia's death) and in the second he got KO'd from the rest of the arc. Ukitake obviously has serious problems in combat, outside of simply playing around with his opponent (as was the case with Lilly). The case I make is that, esspecially now that he has even the most basic means of defending, Chad has incredible physical durability. All he needs to do is hold out and Ukitake is down. If the chunky hollow could oneshot him, I think punch to the face from Chad would hurt too.

[freshseth83]

TB didn't cause him to get KO'ed by WW. Maybe you should go read the chapter again. How will chad get close? he can't shunpo, or sonido, he's relatively slow man. Sorry. Ukitake is as fast as Shunsui, and weve seen how fast he is.

[Sydin]

Shunpo doesn't mean anything in this series anymore. Everybody has been as fast as everybody (besides super Ichigo) for the past 2 arcs. Yet even if you want to go that direction, so what? Ukitake shunpo's up to Chad, who blocks. Chad has the reflexes to block quick attacks, he's much stronger than he was in SS arc when he got one-shotted. I still fail to see how Ukitake can take out Chad quickly enough before his illness butts in. Kido? Chad dodges. Sword attacks? Chad can block with his arm. Quick attacks using Shunpo? Chad takes more damage but can still most likely evade vital spot blows by reflex, and the effort is tiring Ukitake out even more then just attacking.

I don't know, we seem to have different opinions on how much the TB affects Ukitake's combat abilities. I simply see it as a deal breaker: it requires him to have a powerful move that he can execute quickly before he goes into a fit, and I've yet to see him bust it out.

[freshseth83]

How is chad going to block kido? Where has he done that in the Manga? Show me some links to those feats. Dude barely won his fight against Gantenbainne, then was about to be killed by the Exequias. If it weren't for his plot armor he'd be dead by now. He was basically dead against Shunsui but he got 'saved' by the story.

[thornofcarrion]

After giving some thinking, I came to the conclusion....why I took so much time to think . Ukitake should win this one easily. The power gap should be big enough, for even Ukitake's poor health to play any role in this battle. The only chance Chad has to somehow land his fist on Ukitake. But for that he has to show speed greater than Ukitake, which is certainly not the case. Ukitake's has twin blades for attacking and blocking and Kido as well. Blocking kido or Ukitake's attack and then launch attacks of his own, I don't see it happening.

[Jorge D. Dragon]

That's really a pity that Chad needs to face such a strong opponent in this round. In fact if he hsd a fight against a Vice Captain I would have voted for Chad, but guys even with his problems with hels Uki is way stronger than Chad, cause with his ilness he can be at a Level of middle-tier Captain, but if he isn't ill he is one of the strongest, even though he didn't show that much.
Also we should take in consideration that Chad's most basic attack is quite fit to Uki's redirection Shikai. Though, in fact I see Uki taking Chad in his sealed state.

[freshseth83]

I agree, he probably doesn't even need to release his shikai to win. he is adept enough in kido to use that as a way to block and attack without even having to use sogyo no kotowari.

[xXan]

Ukitake stomps this. I remember Yama Ji's complimenting Ukitake and Shunsui as the finest captains to come out of that academy of his. Also these 2 whent head to head with Yama Ji. I really don't need anything more to give this to the captain in a STOMP.