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Thread: Shihōin Yoruichi vs Yadōmaru Lisa

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    Shihōin Yoruichi vs Yadōmaru Lisa

    Yoruichi vs. Lisa



    this keeps the others ones nicely aligned
    Yoruichi

    Shihōin Yoruichi, former captain of the 2nd Division and former head of Omnitsukidō (Covert Ops), is intelligent, witty, and often playful. Because of her former high-ranking positions as well as being part of the noble Shihōin clan, she holds an intimate knowledge of Soul Society and its workings. Not much is known about her zanpakutō or its abilities as she is rarely even seen with it, although it is known that she has achieved bankai. Yoruichi, who holds the title of "Goddess of Flash", possesses incredible speed and is considered to be the most proficient Shunpo master in all of Soul Society. She has also mastered the advanced technique Shunkō, which combines hand-to-hand combat with kidō.
    this keeps the others ones nicely aligned
    Lisa

    Yadōmaru Lisa was the former lieutenant of the 8th Division under Captain Kyōraku Shunsui. She is a girl with glasses and long, braided, dark hair, who dresses in a seifuku. She seems easily irritated and apparently likes to read erotic manga.

    Her mask resembles a knight's helmet with a cross shape opening on it. Her zanpakutō is called Haguro Tonbo. In its shikai form, it becomes a large guan dao or monk's spade with a fanned blade and large orb on the opposite end.
    this keeps the others ones nicely aligned


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    Re: Shihōin Yoruichi vs Yadōmaru Lisa

    Melee, and not even with a particularly large edge to it at that vs. the easily second best hand to hand combatant in the series equipped with among the highest level of speed and insane and highly precise brute force. Yeah, Lisa's got little chance in this one.

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    Re: Shihōin Yoruichi vs Yadōmaru Lisa

    Does she have the weapons urahara made for her? I think she wins even without them but adding them would be interesting. They could count as a zampakuto right?
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    Re: Shihōin Yoruichi vs Yadōmaru Lisa

    I don't think Yoruichi will need her guantlets here. Shunko alone is already terrifying enough. Lisa hasn't display the feats to counter something like that, so she would lose pretty badly.

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    Re: Shihōin Yoruichi vs Yadōmaru Lisa

    Yoruichi wins this, although it certainly won't be a rape considering she seems to have lost her zanpakutou for some reason. Lisa also seems pretty skilled in melee, held her own against released Harribel for a while, and has a mask. Still, that's not enough to contend with the fastest character in the manga and her shunko.

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    Re: Shihōin Yoruichi vs Yadōmaru Lisa

    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    Does she have the weapons urahara made for her? I think she wins even without them but adding them would be interesting. They could count as a zampakuto right?
    Sorry. Characters are not allowed prep time, and those weapons are not a part of her normal repertoire. Urahara gave those to her especially for facing Aizen. So, Yoruichi fights unarmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random101 View Post
    Technically he gave them to her especially to negate hierro's, of which Aizen wouldn't have in the first place.

    Then again neither does Lisa so their intended purpose is moot. Granted they could be used to block. Lisa definitely wouldn't be able to pull an Evolved Aizen on those, but it's not necessary to say the least.
    You're right about that. It's still not considered part of her regular repertoire and still disallowed though.
    Last edited by Tsukisama; February 16, 2011 at 02:11 AM.

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    Re: Shihōin Yoruichi vs Yadōmaru Lisa

    Technically he gave them to her especially to negate hierro's, of which Aizen wouldn't have in the first place.

    Then again neither does Lisa so their intended purpose is moot. Granted they could be used to block. Lisa definitely wouldn't be able to pull an Evolved Aizen on those, but it's not necessary to say the least.

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    Re: Shihōin Yoruichi vs Yadōmaru Lisa

    I'd go with Yoruichi. She is not only the fastest character in the manga (not counting Aizen's evolutions and Ichigo after Dangai training), but also is one of the best hand to hand fighters and has Shunkou that will be enough for Lisa.

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    In fact she didn't loose her Zan:
    http://www.mangareader.net/94-631-8/...apter-177.html
    http://www.mangareader.net/94-631-9/...apter-177.html
    I think it's just not her fighting style for now, or maybe Kubo was saving it for the next arcs, though I'd say that she should have a posibility to at least use her Zan in sealed form in her fights if needed in this Tournament.

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    Re: Shihōin Yoruichi vs Yadōmaru Lisa

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorge D. Dragon View Post
    I'd go with Yoruichi. She is not only the fastest character in the manga (not counting Aizen's evolutions and Ichigo after Dangai training), but also is one of the best hand to hand fighters and has Shunkou that will be enough for Lisa.

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    In fact she didn't loose her Zan:
    http://www.mangareader.net/94-631-8/...apter-177.html
    http://www.mangareader.net/94-631-9/...apter-177.html
    I think it's just not her fighting style for now, or maybe Kubo was saving it for the next arcs, though I'd say that she should have a posibility to at least use her Zan in sealed form in her fights if needed in this Tournament.
    I can't see it. Where is her Zan in those pics? I always wonder if she had one or why she does not have one.

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    Re: Shihōin Yoruichi vs Yadōmaru Lisa

    Quote Originally Posted by xXan View Post
    I can't see it. Where is her Zan in those pics? I always wonder if she had one or why she does not have one.
    For some reason he showed a picture of Yoroichi keeping Aizen's sword in the sheath...

    Anyhoo, we've seen her with one when she's recalling memories of training with Urahara.

    http://img3.lln.crunchyroll.com/i/sp...07e70_full.jpg

    Can't be bothered to look for the chapter, but the anime was just a trace of it anyway.

    As far as the topic goes. Yoroichi.

    She was only slightly slower than Soi Fon when she was rusty, I'd imagine now she's back to being #1 in speed now. Couple that in with the completed Shunko, which as far as I can tell is like wrapping your body with an explosive Raikoho. It's unfortunate that we've never really seen either in a comparable scenario, but it's not unreasonable to assume it's damn powerful.

    Lisa's got a pretty brutal Shikai, but I can't imagine she'll ever connect with it.
    Last edited by Takahashi; February 16, 2011 at 02:55 AM.

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    Re: Shihōin Yoruichi vs Yadōmaru Lisa

    Yoruichi wins this pretty easily I might say.She won't completely dominate Lisa,but she'll win quite easily.

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    Re: Shihōin Yoruichi vs Yadōmaru Lisa

    Quote Originally Posted by Takahashi View Post
    For some reason he showed a picture of Yoroichi keeping Aizen's sword in the sheath...

    Anyhoo, we've seen her with one when she's recalling memories of training with Urahara.

    http://img3.lln.crunchyroll.com/i/sp...07e70_full.jpg

    Can't be bothered to look for the chapter, but the anime was just a trace of it anyway.

    As far as the topic goes. Yoroichi.

    She was only slightly slower than Soi Fon when she was rusty, I'd imagine now she's back to being #1 in speed now. Couple that in with the completed Shunko, which as far as I can tell is like wrapping your body with an explosive Raikoho. It's unfortunate that we've never really seen either in a comparable scenario, but it's not unreasonable to assume it's damn powerful.

    Lisa's got a pretty brutal Shikai, but I can't imagine she'll ever connect with it.
    Yeah that is how it looked to me to. Anyway i hope we get some answeres eventualy as to where is her zan.

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    Re: Shihōin Yoruichi vs Yadōmaru Lisa

    Quote Originally Posted by xXan View Post
    Yeah that is how it looked to me to. Anyway i hope we get some answeres eventualy as to where is her zan.
    Possibly not for a long time when Bleach is coming to an end. She's kind of like Kenpachi, the way she fights is a part of her character.

    We can at least see the basic design of her Zan, but as to what it does? Who knows. I'd hope it has something to do with assassination.

    Still, without it, she still takes it just fine.

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    Re: Shihōin Yoruichi vs Yadōmaru Lisa

    xXan, Takahashi The problem is that this scene is a bit short in manga and not very clear, though I remember that in anime in the same episode she was also using her Zan to keep Aizen.
    Though as Takahashi said we also saw her Zan in a flashback when we were shown her training with Kisuke.

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    Re: Shihōin Yoruichi vs Yadōmaru Lisa

    Quote Originally Posted by Takahashi View Post
    Possibly not for a long time when Bleach is coming to an end. She's kind of like Kenpachi, the way she fights is a part of her character.

    We can at least see the basic design of her Zan, but as to what it does? Who knows. I'd hope it has something to do with assassination.

    Still, without it, she still takes it just fine.
    Yeah i know she takes this... I was just hoping i missed her using it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorge D. Dragon View Post
    xXan, Takahashi The problem is that this scene is a bit short in manga and not very clear, though I remember that in anime in the same episode she was also using her Zan to keep Aizen.
    Though as Takahashi said we also saw her Zan in a flashback when we were shown her training with Kisuke.
    I don't know about the anime but in the manga i really can't see her with any zan in those pics.
    As for the flashback... Well something probably happened to it in the time skip and i am really curious what.

    The bottom line is that we probably can't use her Zan here. Not that she needs it anyway :P
    Last edited by xXan; February 16, 2011 at 03:29 AM.

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