The MangaHelpers Anime Awards 2010 Discussion Thread

[M3J]

Oh, there's one OVA for Hellsing?

[Roflkopt3r]

Oh, there's one OVA for Hellsing?

Now I'm fully confused
There is one OVA series for Hellsing, called Hellsing Ultimate. It contains six OVA Episodes.

[M3J]

Oh. There's no other OVAs, then?

Why can't people just be simple and say the name of the series instead of OVAs? Simplicity makes life easier, folks!

[HegemonKhan]

there's the "original" old Hellsing series of ~13 or 26 episodes/NON-ovas (I think), which doesn't have any nazis, and the graphics are old/oldschool.

and there's the new Hellsing:

Hellsing Ultimate

these are done as OVAs, though it's becoming a series, with 7 OVAs out, and we're awaiting the 8th... (argh), and I think it's going to go to ~11 OVAs.

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(old) FMA: (old) Hellsing (NON-ovas series)

(new) FMA Brotherhood : (new) Hellsing Ultimate (OVA series)

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if you do a simple youtube.com search of Hellsing and Hellsing Ultimate, you can clearly see the difference in graphics, slightly fuzzy-like oldschool graphics of Hellsing vs the sharp new today's anime's graphics of Hellsing Ultimate

or see here:

(old) Hellsing: oldschool graphics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLyGi...eature=related

(new) Hellsing Ultimate (OVA series): new sharp today's anime's graphics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzhSAx6MUno

[destiny4ever]

Here’s the new list of the nominees we have so far. If you notice any errors, please let me know.

Awards Categories

Best Male Lead

Monkey D Luffy from One Piece (2 votes)
Alucard from Hellsing
Spike Spiegel from Cowboy Bebop (2 votes)
Mobile Suit Gundam Wing: Heero Yuy
Amuro Ray - mobile suit gundam (1979)
Eikiichi Onizuka from Great Teacher Onizuka
Yagami Light (Death Note)
Vash the Stampede from Trigun

Best Male supporting character

Roy Mustang from Full Metal Alchemist (2 votes)
Batou from Ghost in the Shell
Fakir from Princess Tutu.
Zorro from One piece
Kamina from Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
L (Death Note)
Blood+: Haji
Kururugi Suzaku from Code Geass

Best Female Lead

Kyouko Mogami from Skip Beat!
"The Major"/Motoko Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell
Hitagi Senjougahara from Bakemonogatari
Blood+: Saya Otonashi
Sophie Hatter (Howl's moving Castle)
Revy (Black Lagoon)
Kuronuma Sawako (Kimi ni Todoke)
Balsa from Seirei no Moribito

Best Female supporting character

Asuka Langley Soryu from Evangelion (2 votes)
Botan (Yu Yu Hakusho)
Jyu Oh Sei: Tiz

Best Male Seiyuu

Fukuyama, Jun
Hōchū Ōtsuka
Daisuke Ono
Kappei Yamaguchi
Hayami Shō

Best Female Seiyuu

Kugimiya, Rie
Sayaka Ohara (2 votes)
Matsumoto Wakako

Best Opening Theme

Brand New World By D-51, used as One Piece OPENING 6.
Bleach Opening #1: Orange Orange - Asterix
Cruel Angel's Thesis (Neon Genesis Evangelion Opening)
We are - First one piece opening
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex: 2nd Gig
Gunslinger Girl Il Teatrino OP -Tatta Hitotsu no Omoi
Opening Theme: Elfen Lied " Lilium "
Katekyo Hitman Reborn! OP #02 - Boys & Girls

Best Ending Theme

For You By AZU used in Naruto Shippuden ENDING 12.
Berserk: Waiting so Long
Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari (Bakemonogatari ED)
Still Doll (Vampire Knight)
Nodame Cantabile-Konna ni Chikaku de
Saiyuki Reload - ending 2
Tegami Bachi Reverse ED #01 - Wasurenagus (Forget-Me-Not)

Best Insert Song

Chiisana te no Hira (The Palm of a small hand) used in the last episode of Clannad After Story
Hellsing OST (Ruins): Kikyo Kaoru Iroha Michi
Monochrome (Star Driver)
Aria the Origination (Episode 11 & 12) - Yokogao
Yoko Kanno - Deadly Work (Darker than Black)

Best Anime Soundtrack

Hellsing (Albums: Raid / Ruins)
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex OST composed by Yoko Kanno.
Phantom: Requiem for the Phantom
Sengoku basara 2
Aria (albums: vocal collections and all OSTs by Choro Club)
The "Darker than Black OST"

Best Comedy

Full Metal Panic – Fumoffu (3 votes)
Tantei Opera Milky Holmes
Golden boy
Gintama
School Rumble

Best Action

Hellsing
Kara no Kyoukai: The Garden of Sinners.
Hellsing Ultimate
Black Lagoon (2 votes)
Seirei no Moribito
Hellsing OVA's

Best Romance

ef - tale of memories.
Bokura ga Ita
Kimagure Orange Road
Kimi ni Todoke

Best Drama

Haibane Renmei (2 votes)
Clannad (seasons 1 and 2)
Neon Genesis Evangelion (2 votes)
Black Lagoon

Best Mystery

Monster (2 votes)
Death Note (2 votes)
Umineko no Naku Koro ni

Best Slice of Life

Aria/Natural/Origination.(2 votes)
Toradora
K-ON!!

Best Sports

Hajime no ippo
IGPX Immortal Grand Prix
One Outs
Giant Killing
Ookiku Furikabutte

Best Horror

Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni/Kai. (2 votes)
High School of the Dead
Shiki
Monster

Best Sci-Fi

Space Battleship Yamato
Legend of the Galactic Heroes.
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex (season 1 and 2)
Gundam Seed
Eve no Jikan

Best Fantasy

Spirited Away (2 votes)
Mononoke Hime (2 votes)
Claymore
Soul Eater

Best Costume Design

One Piece
Code Geass
Katekyo Hitman Reborn

Best Villain

Dessler (Space Battleship Yamato)
Black Beard – One Piece
Johan Liebert (Monster) (4 votes)
Blood+: Diva
Char Aznable- mobile suit gundam (1979)
Tetsuo from Akira
Younger Toguro (Yu Yu Hakusho)

Best Death

death of Ace ( one piece)

Kamina's death)

(3 votes)
Hellsing Ultimate:

OVA 7: Zorin Blitz

Naruto

The death of Jiraiya

Wolfgang Grimmer

Best Fight

Space Battleship Yamato 2: Earth Fleet vs. Comet Empire
Monkey D luffy vs Rob luccy (One piece )
Asuka vs. the EVA series (End of Evangelion)
Wolf's Rain: The Final Battle
Yu Yu Hakusho - Yusuke & Kuwabara VS the Toguro brothers
Naruto vs. Sasuke at the Valley of the End (Naruto)

Best Kiss

Haruhi and Kyon's in the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya.

Claymore:

Clare <3E> Raki

Takaki and Akari's

Best Episode

Berserk Ep. 25 (final episode)
Naruto (original) 133 (2 votes)

Best Couple

Holo & Lawrence (Spice & Wolf).
Big O: Roger Smith and Dorothy R. Wayneright
Claire Stanfield & Chane (Baccano!)
Kazehaya Shouta and Kuronuma Sawako (Kimi ni Todoke)

Best Full Cast

One piece
Baccano! (2 votes)
Claymore
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood

Best Animation TV series

Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood.
Paranoia Agent.
Phantom: Requiem of the Phantom
Death Note

Best Animation OVAs

Diebuster
Hellsing Ultimate (all the Hellsing OVA’s)
Darker Than Black Gaiden

Best Animation Movies

Ghost in the Shell
Princess Mononoke (2 votes)
Evangelion 2.0: You Can (not) Advance

Best Opening (animation-wise)

Revolutionary Girl Utena
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
Cloud Age Symphony - Last Exile OP
Seirei no Moribito – Shine

Best Ending (animation-wise)

Soul Eater ED1
Black Lagoon

Best Artwork/Art Style

Casshern Sins.
Claymore
Kuchu Buranko

Best WTF Moment

Mami's head getting chewed off...

Claymore: Episode 9: Time 12:50 - 13:00
(this-below doesn't need to be put into a spoiler, as it's just a humorous/funny+WTF scene)
Clare (gently) punching Raki in the forehead to show her appreciation for him being concerned about her.

Best plot-twist

Lelouch geassing Euphemia

Claymore: episode 8: Time 16:00 - 22:00

Priscilla decapitating Teresa and then Awakening

Best OVA

Le Portrait de Petit Cossette.
Hellsing Ultimate
Mars destruction.
Darker than Black: Kuro no Keiyakusha Gaiden

Best Movie

Ghost in the Shell
Spirited Away (2 votes)
Flight of Dragons
Tonari no Totoro
Evangelion 2.0: You Can (not) Advance

Best Adaptation – Manga

Monster
Big O
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood

Best Adaptation – Light Novel

Bakemonogatari
Baccano! (2 votes)

Best Adaptation – Visual Novel/Games

Clannad
Phantom: Requiem of the Phantom
Devil May Cry- just portrays Dante so good

Best Original Series (Not based off of a manga, visual novel, light novel or game)

Neon Genesis Evangelion
Gurren Lagann
Darker than Black

Best Alteration of Story Line

Hellsing
Rurouni Kenshin: Tsuioku-hen
Fullmetal Alchemist
Soul Eater

Best Studio

Gainax
Madhouse
Ghibli
Gonzo
BONES

Best Old School Anime (only anime older than 2000 can participate in this award category)

Space Battleship Yamato
Dragon ball Z
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Mobile Suit Gundam (1979)
Legend of galactic heroes
Tanoshii Moomin Ikka
Cowboy Beebop
Musashi no Ken

Best Anime for 2010 / Best new series (anime first subbed in 2010 will be also accepted for this award category)

Tatami Galaxy.
Fullmetal Alchemist
The Legend of the Legendary Heroes.
Tegami Bachi Reverse

Best Ongoing Anime (only anime that have started airing before 2011 can participate in this award category)

One piece
Star Driver

Best Anime Overall (only anime that has ended can participate in this award category

Mushishi
Dragon ball Z
Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood (2 votes)
Basilisk
Berserk

[naruto-niichan]

Quite a confusion about Hellsing looks like I was the one bringing it up, sorry for that guys! I didn't thought of the name when I was nominating it

I wonder why there's so little input by the members, at least if you look at the manga Award, which was quite popular. It's sad to see that there are only a few people participating so far, this award definitely deserves a lot more interest

[saladesu]

Well, this *is* MangaHelpers, after all We were already expecting a smaller response than we had for the Manga awards. It would be nice to see more nominations though~ So tell your friends about it

[HegemonKhan]

Manga reading members can still make nominations (I did the opposite for the Manga Awards, as I've only read/reading Claymore manga thus far, hehe), as anime and manga are usually closely similar in story/plot. Obviously, there's some categories that are anime only, like animations and music/songs.

I'm not sure if it's entirely that few people watch anime, it might have to do more with having just had the manga awards and members had already said/nominated what they wanted to in it so they don't have much reason now to participate in the anime awards, and/or members are just more busy with RL, work and/or school stuff, during this time.

[zelllogan]

I wonder why there's so little input by the members, at least if you look at the manga Award, which was quite popular. It's sad to see that there are only a few people participating so far, this award definitely deserves a lot more interest

Several reasons for me:

- too many categories. I wanted a few more categories in the manga awards but here there are way too much.

- There are less discussion also because there are two threads. Quoting in one thread & then posting in an other, People are too lazy to do that (well I am ...).

- Reading a chapter takes 3 minutes, Watching an anime 20 minutes ... So, obviously, it's easier to follow many mangas than many animes.

- It's mangahelpers & not animehelpers

- IMO, Animation didn't progress that much in the last few years. When you see the animation level of a samurai champloo which is now almost 7 years old ... Or even a cowboy beebop

[M3J]

You don't have to nominate every single category, just the ones you want to. Just skip any part you don't care about.

[saladesu]

What Milly said

Having 2 threads makes it much easier for us to count votes, but yeah I can see why it would be more difficult to quote and comment on each other's nominations

Also, I think animation quality has improved quite a bit actually. Especially now when you have new technologies like blu-ray and HD. Some anime movies (and even series) need to be watched in blu-ray + HD and even better, on a TV screen (or movie theatre!) and not a computer, to be fully appreciated That's why I like to watch series like Macross and Gundam on my brother's big blu-ray+HD TV in 1080p.

Besides, only a few series were that well animated back in those days. Now on average animation quality has gone up across the board.

[HegemonKhan]

Also, I think animation quality has improved quite a bit actually. Especially now when you have new technologies like blu-ray and HD. Some anime movies (and even series) need to be watched in blu-ray + HD and even better, on a TV screen (or movie theatre!) and not a computer, to be fully appreciated That's why I like to watch series like Macross and Gundam on my brother's big blu-ray+HD TV in 1080p.

Besides, only a few series were that well animated back in those days. Now on average animation quality has gone up across the board.

"on my brother's big blu-ray+HD TV in 1080p." -saladesu

though, not macross, nor gundam, unless its Mobile Suit Gundam Wing

Drools enviously... INVITE ME OVER DAMNIT! Gives my "smolder" look (it's even better than Flynn's...right...) (Tangled movie reference), or the "sad dog-puppy face" (Bolt movie refernece)... (J/K)

Week(s) long anime movie "sittings"

Oh, which anime series to do first... hmm...

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the anime's graphics is better, and it's noticable. but, not too old anime graphics isn't that bad, either.

I would say though, that it's not the graphics that set apart old and new, but the other stuff, such as dialogue, more mature/intense content, and etc.

I'm not saying that there's not good old animes too, but some of the dialogue is non-existent... looking at Guyver's dialogue... UGHN!!!!

but, it's hard though for the newer generations to look back and appreciate stuff with worse graphics. but, if the plot/story/dialogue is good, I don't personally care about graphics too much.

for example, Berserk's older graphics, didn't bother me one bit, as it has terrific story/plot.

the new graphics is nice however, I don't think anyone would disagree with this, but good graphics doesn't mean that everything else is good. Especially with current American movies and (japanese) games... awesome graphics, but no story/plot... nothing like the golden years of movies, tv shows/series, and gaming in the 80's and 90's, hehe

[zelllogan]

You don't have to nominate every single category, just the ones you want to. Just skip any part you don't care about.

The problem is the readability. There are so many categories that the whole thing can't even be seen in 3 complete rolled screen (And I have a 22')

Besides, only a few series were that well animated back in those days. Now on average animation quality has gone up across the board.

That's true but that average is not at the same level of the top from 7 years ago. Taking into account the evolution of technology, I find this disappointing.

[k-dom]

I kinda agree with Zellogan, there are a bit too much categories. Plus some of them looks like a manga award round 2 when we just finish voting for them ( best kiss... )
I'm looking forward the categories which are really anime oriented, the series based on manga are biased. who can honnestly said One piece anime is the best ( and I'm a huge fan of the manga )

[saladesu]

Thanks for the feedback, we'll certainly keep them in mind in the future

Like you, I'm also looking forward to categories that are "solely" anime oriented. It's inevitable that some categories are going to end up looking like the manga awards, but it is also true that a lot of anime are adapted off manga as well, and if the manga was popular and has a good readership on MH, it's likely to be the same for the anime. So it's really rather inevitable. I personally wouldn't nominate a series for the anime awards just because the manga was good, like you said, that's totally biased

I dunno about One Piece as I've only read the manga, but there are so many anime adaptations that screwed up and made a mess of their manga counterparts. Most recent example off the top of my head is Nurarihyon no Mago. Great manga, but draggy anime that included too many fillers and changed too many things.