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Thread: The MangaHelpers Anime Awards 2010 Discussion Thread

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Anime Awards Discussion Thread

    Most animes with a weekly release based on a weekly manga are not often very good animes. Animation is often poor, lot of poor HS and/or slow pace. The quality can be good in some episodes, not good in others ... And the atmosphere is even sometimes completely different from the manga

    Long animes are simply not as good as long mangas ...
    The greatest anime masterpieces were IMO all animes of ~13 or ~26 episodes (evangelion, cowboy beebop, samurai champloo, shigurui, ...).
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    Re: The MangaHelpers Anime Awards Discussion Thread

    I definitely agree

    Though I'd say there are also some long anime that are good. I liked FMA:Brotherhood, it was faithful to the manga almost all the way (except for Isaac McDougal in ep1, leaving out the Yoki arc [rather, making Yoki tell it in condensed form instead] and some other minor details), and the quality on the whole was very good. I don't recall there being any distinctly bad episodes, though some episodes did get better animators, hence slightly elevated quality eg Mustang vs a certain homunculus.

    I rather short anime, though. Or at least break up a longer series into shorter seasons.

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Anime Awards Discussion Thread

    I know that a lot of people hate fillers and disgression with regard canon story. I feel differently. After all, when you have already read the manga, seing the anime adaptation months after loose a lot of the freshness, the fillers, when they are good and relevent, can counter that points. Of course I understand that the anime help bringing people reading the manga. But once the anime has helped me catched the manga, i loose a lot of interest in it.

    Actually I think FMA did something really clever, the first serie disgress from the canon story, and such become interesting to watch for itself, brotherhood was displayed so that it synchronised with the end of the manga. That allowed you to remember the story in a short number of episodes.

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Anime Awards Discussion Thread

    It depends, really. Like you said, "when they are good and relevant", then yeah, fillers or anime-only endings can be pretty awesome But when fillers get too long or are stupid and pointless, that's when they can end up ruining an anime... In some cases, it can be so bad the whole anime gets canceled. Like Rurouni Kenshin - apparently the fillers were so bad (this part is true, definitely ) ratings plummeted and the anime was canceled before it could get to what can be considered the best (or maybe second-best, I myself can't decide if I liked the Kyoto arc better or not) and final arc in RuroKen, the Jinchuu arc (part of it, or the impetus for it, was turned into the Tsuioku-hen OVA, though).

    The problem with the way FMA did things is that people who didn't watch the original anime or read the manga would find the starting a little too rushed and some stuff seemingly not explained or developed well enough. That's what my mum complained about, when I let her watch FMA:B

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Anime Awards Discussion Thread

    Well why doesn't she read the manga then ? :-) The 2 mediums complete each others and that is what I find good. When it is just a color version of the manga like one piece is currently it has no interest

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Anime Awards Discussion Thread

    just a small comment on FMA vs FMA:B


    FMA had one scene (1-2 episodes only I think) that wasn't in FMA:B which was really emotional and well done, made me cry... looks away and whistles...

    it was with that alchemist who thought he lost his young fiancee, so remembering loving-obsessed with her youthful beauty, that he never realized her return to him, as an older woman.

    this scene broke my heart...

    one of the most memorable "filler" scenes that was in FMA, and not FMA:B

    Spoiler: Also, in FMA show



    (other emotional one was that girl of the Alchemist father, getting merged with her pet dog by that alchemist father, who had done the same priorly with his wife as well but some other animal... he must like his women being bitches... sorry bad joke... However, this scene was in both FMA and FMA:B)

    (Edward, it hurts! the tone the setting-build up my love of dogs and the sweet girl so emotional so sad HK sniffles)
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    Re: The MangaHelpers Anime Awards Discussion Thread

    Time to update the nominations! Below are the nominations we have so far, if you notice any mistakes please let me know.

    Awards Categories

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    Best Male Lead
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    Best Male supporting character
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    Best Female Lead
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    Best Female supporting character
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    Best Male Seiyuu
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    Best Female Seiyuu
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    Best Opening Theme
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    Best Ending Theme
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    Best Insert Song
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    Best Anime Soundtrack
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    Best Comedy
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    Best Action
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    Best Romance
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    Best Drama
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    Best Mystery
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    Best Slice of Life
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    Best Sports
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    Best Horror
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    Best Sci-Fi
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    Best Fantasy
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    Best Costume Design
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    Best Villain
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    Best Death
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    Best Fight
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    Best Kiss
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    Best Episode
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    Best Couple
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    Best Full Cast
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    Best Animation TV series
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    Best Animation OVAs
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    Best Animation Movies
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    Best Opening (animation-wise)
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    Best Ending (animation-wise)
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    Best Artwork/Art Style
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    Best WTF Moment

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    Best plot-twist
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    Spoiler:  Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann show



    Best OVA
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    Best Movie
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    Best Adaptation – Manga
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    Best Adaptation – Light Novel
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    Best Adaptation – Visual Novel/Games
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    Best Original Series (Not based off of a manga, visual novel, light novel or game)
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    Best Alteration of Story Line
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    Best Studio
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    Best Old School Anime (only anime older than 2000 can participate in this award category)
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    Best Anime for 2010 / Best new series (anime first subbed in 2010 will be also accepted for this award category)
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    Best Ongoing Anime (only anime that have started airing before 2011 can participate in this award category)
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    Best Anime Overall (only anime that has ended can participate in this award category
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    You have until this coming Thursday to post your nominations and support your favorite nominees, so be sure to participate in this anime event before the nomination process is over.
    Last edited by destiny4ever; February 26, 2011 at 06:02 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Anime Awards Discussion Thread

    I seconded The Girl in Byakkoya of Paprika for best opening ( also i may have been a bit unclear ) so I guess that's 2 votes

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Anime Awards Discussion Thread

    I’m trying to find the first nomination for that song, but I can’t find it. Paprika has another nomination but it is for best insert song.

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Anime Awards Discussion Thread

    Ustegious mentioned it first, so I thought it was a nomination

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Anime Awards Discussion Thread

    I thought it was just a question, but I re-read his post and you are right it was a nomination. I will add another vote for The Girl in Byakkoya of Paprika.

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Anime Awards Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by destiny4ever
    "Best Opening Theme
    Blood + Opening 1 - Aozora no Namida It was very hard to choose just one but…it would be a real shame for this song not to be nominated."
    I totally forgot how awesome Blood+ openings were, argh! thanks for mentioning/nominating it, hehe

    ALL (4 of them) of the Blood+ openings are fabulous!

    I personally like the one with Saya in a 3 limb crouch, showing her bottom "in the foreground" with her skirt flapping away, and then the camera on her front side with her biting whatever it was that she was biting with her red lips. err, I have it reversed... stupid bad memory of mine, lol !!!

    Saya in Blood+ has THEE SEXIEST LIPS/FACE MAKE-UP I've ever seen, RAWR! Her lips are as good as Angelina Jolie's no exagerration! sooo hot!!! Her face is so hot, especially in the first episode, after she's "kissed", hehe

    Spoiler: spoilerish show


    also the opening/ending with her and Kaori booty swinging/dancing is sooo sexy too! I love how Kaori is wildly swinging her bottom so far left and right, while shy Saya is barely swinging her bottom at all, MMMmmmm !!!!

    here's the opening of Blood+ that I like along with a funny+matching song with the booty swinging hehe:

    Spoiler: the opening is unfortunately spoilerish... show


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    Diva's such an awesome villain, giggle giggle laugh laugh:

    Spoiler: Warning: spoilerish show


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    the Claymore "dance" one:

    Spoiler: Warning: female monster nudity and spoilerish show

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Anime Awards Discussion Thread

    As the big Blood plus fan I know you are, I was totally expecting you to nominate some songs from Blood +, so I was surprised when I read you list of nominations and I didn’t find Blood + songs.

    The first op is “Colors of the Heart”, that song is great!! I love that song, but the reason why I didn’t nominate it is because I associate that song more with Ichiruki than with Bleach . I remember watching a very cool IchiRuki AMV with that song before I began watching Blood + and since then I can’t help but think of IchiRuki when I listen to that song.

    LOL at the Blood + Caramelldansen, for a moment there you got me wondering what opening you were referring to.

    And regarding Diva, I agree she is a great villain. If it wasn’t because I’ve already made up my mind about what character I’m going to nominate for that award category, I would def. nominate Diva.

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Anime Awards Discussion Thread

    I editted-added in a bit more to my previous post, such as added the Claymore carmeldansen whatever clip, hehe, as well as other Blood clips or comments of mine.

    You can strain your neck and your eyes become very tired if you try to follow Kaori (left eye's gaze) + Saya (right eye's gaze) or the Claymores, hehe

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    (if you're interested destiny4ever, or anyone, lita302 has some awesome Blood+ amv clips on youtube.com)

    (or if anyone's interested, I have a lot of awesome Blood+, Claymore, and/or other anime clips and ""other"-fanservice" clips on youtube.com favorited/saved, if interested let me know and I'll share/guide you to them, hehe)


    My Favorite Animes:

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    Last edited by HegemonKhan; February 28, 2011 at 01:53 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Anime Awards Discussion Thread

    I think I didn't get it right, Best Opening (animation-wise) is about the opening animation and setting or about the TV version of the song?

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