Bleach 441 Discussion

[genkizen]

So, so far from the information we have so far, I see fullbring as an ability to affect your surrounding with willpower. Everyone who has fullbring uses it in there own specific ways (Ginjo and Tsukishima swords, Riruka with the dollhouse, etc), but don't particularly seem to be limited to these abilities (Ginjo willing the liquor into his mouth). My confusion lies in what is going to happen to Ichigo, specifically with regards to his shinigami powers. Is he going to actually regain said powers, or is fullbring going to imitate them?

So far it seems that each phase of Ichigo's training is bringing him closer to realizing his shinigami powers again (first step got his hilt, next probably the blade, etc).

I'm curious to see what Jackie's fullbring is and how it will help Ichigo.

[kamakazi_1996]

What happened to Kon? did kubo just forget about him or something?

i hope ichigo gets tensa zangetsu back when he completes his fullbring, i dont just mean the blade but the manifistation zangetsu as well and i also want shirosaki to come back dam i miss that crazy bastard

[PoopNScoop]

The two bodies are more than likely bodies of humans, probably full-bringers, that were brought to Aporro for cross-examination. Notice that their souls have not been soul reaped and the hollows did not eat them - they must then be dead or soulless humans.

[NAM61]

wonder what transformation his fullbringer will have the next chapter maybe more of the sword will appear like the blade or handle. also fighting jackie may help him gain his speed and strength back the other fullbringer have great speed he will need it to face them. ichigo will probably have to face all of execution in his training. for example he will face the video game kid after jackie the ginjou.

[thornofcarrion]

The whole power returning to Ichigo has really been not so convincing. But I will wait for more explanation by Kubo. Next up is Jackie, lets see what kind of Fullbring power she has and how it will help Ichigo.

[DarkBankai]

wonder what transformation his fullbringer will have the next chapter maybe more of the sword will appear like the blade or handle. also fighting jackie may help him gain his speed and strength back the other fullbringer have great speed he will need it to face them. ichigo will probably have to face all of execution in his training. for example he will face the video game kid after jackie the ginjou.

Speed is likely, they are in water, running in water is difficult. so I can see that.
Or she may try to drown him, which would put him near death, and might spike his reiatsu regeneration. or he might get his blade,, but then again, the blade might be with video game dude or ginjou.

can hardly wait to see.

[kkck]

What happened to Kon? did kubo just forget about him or something?

i hope ichigo gets tensa zangetsu back when he completes his fullbring, i dont just mean the blade but the manifistation zangetsu as well and i also want shirosaki to come back dam i miss that crazy bastard

I also miss kon. My guess is that since ichigo did not need him anymore and since rukia was not around kon or maybe ichigo decided he would be better of back with urahara.

Well, getting his shinigami powers back would for the most part bring zangetsu back. Zangetsu is an inherent part of ichigo's soul, he shouldn't disappear. His fullbring should not be the actual zangetsu although it would make sense if his fullbring has most of zangetsu's abilities.

[vizardichigo]

The whole power returning to Ichigo has really been not so convincing. But I will wait for more explanation by Kubo. Next up is Jackie, lets see what kind of Fullbring power she has and how it will help Ichigo.

I actually disagree...I thought Chad's speech about pride being a key factor in mastering fullbring and Ginjou's speech about his badge remembering all his fights and storing them within itself to make alot of sense...I was worried before as to how Kubo was going to go about it but thus far he has done a pretty good job, IMO anyway....Cant wait ti see Jackie and her fullbring. This should be good.

[ca12nag3]

I also miss kon. My guess is that since ichigo did not need him anymore and since rukia was not around kon or maybe ichigo decided he would be better of back with urahara.

Well, getting his shinigami powers back would for the most part bring zangetsu back. Zangetsu is an inherent part of ichigo's soul, he shouldn't disappear. His fullbring should not be the actual zangetsu although it would make sense if his fullbring has most of zangetsu's abilities.

Arnt we forgetting something thats pretty much vital here? He isnt actualy getting his shinigami powers back... Well maybe he is but i doubt the author is overlooking a pretty important fact.
Ichigo is using powers in human form atm. I dont see how this has anything to do with his in soul form used powers.
Or more precise the fullbringers are making Ichigo use power in his human form, something Ichigo never was capable of in the first place... I wonder why tho.

[Lunatic Scream]

I think I've figured out why I am really disliking the Fullbringers. They feel like Bounts to me. "Super cool unique power! Not like a shinigami, but comparable in strength, maybe! And look at them they all have quirky designs and personalities!". I couldn't stand the Bount arc. The fact that they seem to be added to the absurdly large list of protagonists doesn't help either. Just imagine, later down the line, they could get screen time in a fight over finding out something like Shinji or Shunsui's bankai.

Anyways, this all depends on how exactly all this leads to Ichigo gets his shinigami powers back in the end, but I've wished it'd be like Uryu got his back. Sure, completely absurd and handwaved to the max, but at least it only took one chapter.

[Zan2pacto]

I think I've figured out why I am really disliking the Fullbringers. They feel like Bounts to me. "Super cool unique power! Not like a shinigami, but comparable in strength, maybe! And look at them they all have quirky designs and personalities!". I couldn't stand the Bount arc. The fact that they seem to be added to the absurdly large list of protagonists doesn't help either. Just imagine, later down the line, they could get screen time in a fight over finding out something like Shinji or Shunsui's bankai.

Anyways, this all depends on how exactly all this leads to Ichigo gets his shinigami powers back in the end, but I've wished it'd be like Uryu got his back. Sure, completely absurd and handwaved to the max, but at least it only took one chapter.

I just had a prediction about shinji - I think we're done with the viazards. While we usually complain that no one dies in this manga, I think we have something far worse: characters who "stagnate." While I don't know if our friends the arrancars are dead, I think we're done with them. Same for the Viazards. I think Kubo just put them all on a shelf wiped his hands, and now he is done. Onto the fullbringers. We will be distracted at what the fullbringer's "bankai" is for a while and we will eventually see probably Ginjou's or someone lame like dollhouse "bankai" and we will never get to see the captains' bankais or the vaizards' bankais.

Yeah I think its cool where this arc is going, but realistically I have also washed my hands of the viazards and arrancars. I am looking at this arc like a "new" manga. Interested in the new concepts and regrettably letting go of the old.