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  • Yamamoto

    95 91.35%
  • Suì-Fēng

    9 8.65%
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Thread: Yamamoto Genryūsai Shigekuni vs Suì-Fēng

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    Re: Yamamoto Genryūsai Shigekuni vs Suì-Fēng

    Quote Originally Posted by LucyBenard View Post
    I do not see how you'd read so much into such a simple manga where everything is explained later on to the readers, if it ever happened.
    I do not see how you'd NOT read into a fight in the manga in which the bad guy both has the ability, and admits to using illusions that are even used to deceive the readers.

    Also, if you're so against reading into things that aren't directly shown, then look at the bottom panel following Aizen after he admits to using KS-->http://www.mangareader.net/94-47010-...apter-392.html

    Seems like pretty direct evidence to me. Hitsugaya first attacking Aizen, before his fight against the Gotei 13, was preceded by "when did you start thinking I wasn't using KS?".

    Anyway, not arguing this here, Yama stomps, but I still think he can be killed by Suzumabachi, just that the odds are insanely low.

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    Re: Yamamoto Genryūsai Shigekuni vs Suì-Fēng

    Quote Originally Posted by Takahashi View Post
    I do not see how you'd NOT read into a fight in the manga in which the bad guy both has the ability, and admits to using illusions that are even used to deceive the readers.

    Also, if you're so against reading into things that aren't directly shown, then look at the bottom panel following Aizen after he admits to using KS-->http://www.mangareader.net/94-47010-...apter-392.html

    Seems like pretty direct evidence to me. Hitsugaya first attacking Aizen, before his fight against the Gotei 13, was preceded by "when did you start thinking I wasn't using KS?".

    Anyway, not arguing this here, Yama stomps, but I still think he can be killed by Suzumabachi, just that the odds are insanely low.
    For the simple fact that there would be no right-or-wrong scenario anymore. If everyone came in with their own versions and interpretations of the events that had folded out then this whole thing would be nothing but an endless mess.

    As for your quote, Aizen simply asks: "When did you think I wouldn't use KS", meaning, he questions the naivety of the captains for ever thinking that he wouldn't pull out a KS on them, in this case it ONLY being the Hinamori illusion.

    Also, what happened to Shinji's earlier wound that he had inflicted on Aizen? Was that an illusion too? Or is it more simply a matter of the artist's lack of attention to detail? Such as the one time in which Yammy was drawn without a hollow hole, amongst hundred+ of other graphical errors in the manga.

    So yes, Aizen only questioned Shinji's naivety. The manga only illustrated a single illusion. Therefore, there are no other illusions.
    Last edited by LucyBenard; March 21, 2011 at 12:41 AM.

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    Re: Yamamoto Genryūsai Shigekuni vs Suì-Fēng

    Yeah Yama does this chick in pretty easily. She'd give it a shot, but it wouldn't be good enough. Yama without his sword is easily too much for any one captain over a period of a fight. At least most the time. With a sword it's a rap. And Aizen for the record said, "when did you think I wasn't using Kyoka Suigetsu?" I take that as he was using it the whole time. Even after Gin made that stupid monologue about him being so strong.
    Last edited by freshseth83; March 21, 2011 at 12:55 AM.

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    Re: Yamamoto Genryūsai Shigekuni vs Suì-Fēng

    lol @ baby shakes. Anyway, I believe Yamamoto takes this. A full powered Soi Fon shikai would be as ineffective as it was against Aizen IMO and the Captain Commander's hand to hand skills and speed should be enough to cripple her. Her bankai wouldn't have room to be prepared, I think..

    Edit: not getting too into that discussion, but when was Yammy seen w/o the hollow hole? Early appearance, action scene?
    Last edited by SaintSheik; March 21, 2011 at 01:34 AM.

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    Re: Yamamoto Genryūsai Shigekuni vs Suì-Fēng

    I like Soifon, but she has absolutely no chance here.

    Lets move to Yama vs Aizen already...

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    Re: Yamamoto Genryūsai Shigekuni vs Suì-Fēng

    Quote Originally Posted by LucyBenard View Post
    Also, what happened to Shinji's earlier wound that he had inflicted on Aizen? Was that an illusion too? Or is it more simply a matter of the artist's lack of attention to detail? Such as the one time in which Yammy was drawn without a hollow hole, amongst hundred+ of other graphical errors in the manga.
    Doesn't matter. What we see is what we get, and author intent shouldn't be a factor in here when we're discussing these things, because it's not really a consistent argument.
    Last edited by Omiem; March 21, 2011 at 05:47 AM.

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    Re: Yamamoto Genryūsai Shigekuni vs Suì-Fēng

    Yama wins this fight sealed. He is too strong for Soi Fong.

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    Re: Yamamoto Genryūsai Shigekuni vs Suì-Fēng

    Don't need to explain why Yama wins easily. But i wanna see if Soi Fon gets some votes as Ulquiorra did against Aisen
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    Re: Yamamoto Genryūsai Shigekuni vs Suì-Fēng

    Poor Sui Feng......she doesn't stand a chance.
    She's one of my favorite captains, too.

    Yamamoto wins this. With just a flick of his magnificent beard.

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    Re: Yamamoto Genryūsai Shigekuni vs Suì-Fēng

    Yamamoto smokes Soifon in one hit.

    Seriously, Soifon is good, but she doesn't stand one iota of a chance against the Captain-Commander. Her only hope is to try and kill Yama with Suzumebachi as quickly as possible, but for all her speed, I doubt she'll be able to match old man Yama. He'd probably catch her and one slice from his zanpakutou will end it. And as for her Bankai... I wouldn't be surprised if Yama can take the hit directly and still survive, though someone with his speed can easily dodge it.

    If Soifon stays on the defensive, Ryuujin Jakka is probably fast enough to catch up with her. Maybe she'll dodge it for a while, but not indefinitely. Really, whenever Yamamoto decides to attack, she's dead.

    Yama pwns.
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    Re: Yamamoto Genryūsai Shigekuni vs Suì-Fēng

    Yama completely stomps Soi Fon barehanded in my opinion.

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    Re: Yamamoto Genryūsai Shigekuni vs Suì-Fēng

    If he could tank the Ryujin Jakka flames which exploded from within WW then I would bet he could also tank Soifon's Bankai, so yeah, even if he allowed her the time to use her Bankai, poor Soifon doesn't have a chance.

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    Re: Yamamoto Genryūsai Shigekuni vs Suì-Fēng

    Mmmmmm... Soifon crisps.

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    Re: Yamamoto Genryūsai Shigekuni vs Suì-Fēng

    Soifon's shikai is cool. But I think even if she hit Yama with it, he wouldn't die. His reiatsu is considered legendary.

    Yama pwn!

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    Re: Yamamoto Genryūsai Shigekuni vs Suì-Fēng

    its threads like this that proves yamma should not be in the tournament.

    he wins no matter who he is placed against and they not hard wins they full crushes

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