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Thread: Silver Spoon by Arakawa Hiromu

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    Re: Silver Spoon by Arakawa Hiromu

    Komaba leaving the school is known since they lost the match so indeed you didn't need to be a genious to see that. Why did he left was not known though and that specific reason is not irrelevant ; that's what makes a story. Actually speaking of the financial difficulties of the farming industry is more interesting than the drama of a mother illness since it is something that is a real issue. If only Hachiken seems to be concerned by what happens to Komaba, it's probably because his friends have seen such things happen many times around them already.

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    Re: Silver Spoon by Arakawa Hiromu

    Quote Originally Posted by k-dom View Post
    Komaba leaving the school is known since they lost the match so indeed you didn't need to be a genious to see that.
    It was obvious since nothing immediately resulted from the conversation Komaba had with Mikage that neither of them wanted to talk about.

    Quote Originally Posted by k-dom View Post
    Why did he left was not known though and that specific reason is not irrelevant ; that's what makes a story.
    It is absolutely irrelevant. Narratives are about characters and the specific plot device an author uses to bring about some change is unimportant when compared to the effect of that device on the characters.

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    Actually speaking of the financial difficulties of the farming industry is more interesting than the drama of a mother illness since it is something that is a real issue.
    It would amount to the same thing. Komaba would have to leave school because his family could not afford to shut down their farm, even for a short period. Assuming the hypothetical illness was not life threatening, you could focus entirely on the financial aspect.

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    Re: Silver Spoon by Arakawa Hiromu

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    Except that isn't what she is saying. She is implying that there is some sort of legal prohibition against mentioning it or that it would have threatened the proceedings, neither of which is true.
    It's about redemption actually. If you are in financial dire straits, is it better to let others work under the assumption that you are doing fine or let them know that you have a weakness? By keeping it absolute secret, Komaba's family company could survive under the pretense of possible redemption. That didn't happen.
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    All we needed to psych up this place was komaba to leave the school lol.
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    Except that isn't what she is saying. She is implying that there is some sort of legal prohibition against mentioning it or that it would have threatened the proceedings, neither of which is true.
    You are clearly misunderstanding what is being said. She clearly explains the law in there. when a company files for bankruptcy; unless you want to make it known, is 1 of the best kept secrets. when bankruptcy becomes legal you have more of a leeway. if it is known however; creditors can demand their money before hand which usually sucks for the debtor. I actually applaud arakawa for making the story around this kind of brutal subject on a shounen.

    In any case i kinda want to see what will happen now that hachiken is thinking about this.

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    Re: Silver Spoon by Arakawa Hiromu

    New chap!
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    i am feeling all fuzzy inside. the scene with komaba's mother, the classroom and everything was so great that it made go to hokaido and help komabas family. also the thing about mikage's family cosigning the loan and her tears finally got explained but like googlez said you r the man hachiken. dont leave the reins.

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    Re: Silver Spoon by Arakawa Hiromu

    They shouldn't accept the realities of capitalism, changes to the economy of food production, and what happens when you fail to pay off a loan? Interesting.

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    Re: Silver Spoon by Arakawa Hiromu

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    Re: Silver Spoon by Arakawa Hiromu

    Quote Originally Posted by Reclaimer View Post
    They shouldn't accept the realities of capitalism, changes to the economy of food production, and what happens when you fail to pay off a loan? Interesting.
    Not trying to say they should change the system, find a way to get around it or anything. But seeing a young man like Komaba being all like "Well, that's the way it is...can't change it right? Sucks, I guess..." is quite painful. In Hachiken's eyes, (seemingly) accepting the end of your dreams like this because of something that just happens doesn't feel right. It's like they can't show sorrow and pain because it's only natural, the way things go in the industry. I think Mikage is the best example of this. She tries to act calm and pretend nothing happened while she'd rather burst out crying.
    At least that's the way I see it.
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    Re: Silver Spoon by Arakawa Hiromu

    That's what is called a running gag. It's not the subject by itself which is funny but its repetition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k-dom View Post
    That's what is called a running gag. It's not the subject by itself which is funny but its repetition.
    The thing is that Hachiken was shocked every time they said that, even the first time. It appears to be more than just a running joke.

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    Re: Silver Spoon by Arakawa Hiromu

    It's because all the thing that they tell him to make money are illegal :-) the ceab solution deals with russian mafia...

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    Re: Silver Spoon by Arakawa Hiromu

    Ah okay. I suspected something like that, but wasn't sure. Thought there was more to it. But yeah, the other jokes make more sense now. Like the milk dude who despises adding water to the milk tanks illegally, but thinks crab is alright. Talk about double standards.

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    Re: Silver Spoon by Arakawa Hiromu

    I don't know how it is in Japan, but in California and the U.S., farmers have insurance to help cover down years. As long as they do not have too many down years in a short period of time (basically, what has happened recently), well run farms can survive bad years.

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