Team Big Gunz vs Team Toxic Arrow

[leshrak]

IMO Stark can solo this unreleased... His cero can blow the poison away. Also, Mayuiri's bankai is a huge and slow target...

[CeroOskuraz]

It's not that, it's that Mayuri hasn't shown how the hell he could repair any damage he receives from Stark.

Ceros don't deal cuts or stabs. They either blow off entire parts of your body or give you burns, or do nothing.

[Takahashi]

It's not that, it's that Mayuri hasn't shown how the hell he could repair any damage he receives from Stark.

Ceros don't deal cuts or stabs. They either blow off entire parts of your body or give you burns, or do nothing.

Generally the latter^

Also, "blow off entire parts of your body" you say?

http://www.mangareader.net/94-580-2/...apter-126.html

Mayuri actually lived from having one of the worst injuries we've seen in bleach, and was still alive and able to liquefy. So even if he needs to risk a severe injury to so much as touch Stark with a bit of poison, he's won. He can also use that serum to regrow limbs, the guy's not made of glass, and even if he was, it would be regenerating glass

I'm giving the win to Mayuri because I think he'll be saying "Bankai" before Stark says "Los Lobos". The advantage will definitely be for Stark if he tries to finish things quickly, but I don't think he will.

The poison can kill Stark, it spreads a damn long distance very fast, and as far as I can tell from the Ishida fight, it's not even really visible when dispersed.

It all depends on Stark's attitude though, but I'll give the edge to Mayuri cause I think he needs more support :P

[CeroOskuraz]

Um...OK. You didn't actually refute anything I said, but that's alright. Pretty sure Stark rapes with absurd ease here.

Also, Mayuri doesn't Bankai immediately either

[Takahashi]

You said Mayuri has no means to repair any damage he receives from Stark...He does.

[CeroOskuraz]

No he really doesn't. You surely don't think Stark's strong enough to blow off Mayuri's body with regular ceros do you?

Probably not, which means it'll probably just give him burns.

But given Stark's ability with ceros, namely zero cool down, Mayuri's not nearly going to have the means to treat burns on the field. Or anything else really.

[Takahashi]

No he really doesn't. You surely don't think Stark's strong enough to blow off Mayuri's body with regular ceros do you?

Of course not, Cero suck.

Probably not, which means it'll probably just give him burns.

But given Stark's ability with ceros, namely zero cool down, Mayuri's not nearly going to have the means to treat burns on the field. Or anything else really.

I know. Cero are garbage on their own, but Stark's redeeming factor is the sheer amount he fires. But like I've said, I think that if Mayuri goes Bankai first, which I think would happen more often than not, he'd win. Stark's sealed Cero will most certainly not be much of an issue.

[CeroOskuraz]

Of course not, Cero suck.

Exactly

I know. Cero are garbage on their own, but Stark's redeeming factor is the sheer amount he fires. But like I've said, I think that if Mayuri goes Bankai first, which I think would happen more often than not, he'd win. Stark's sealed Cero will most certainly not be much of an issue.

Mayuri will most definitely not go Bankai before he's speedraped by Stark, it simply isn't in his nature to do so.

[Takahashi]

Mayuri will most definitely not go Bankai before he's speedraped by Stark, it simply isn't in his nature to do so.

Mayuri generally goes Bankai when he feels he needs it, or is just done toying with his opponent and wants to finish them. At the same time, Stark has absolutely no desire to kill without motivation. As we've seen, that motivation is difficult to come by.

While neither really take the initiative, I'd imagine Mayuri would realize that Stark is powerful even when Sealed. I'm weighing the odds of Stark actually finding the desire to fight, versus Mayuri just recognizing that he's outclassed in a straight up fight and opting for Bankai. Like I said, whoever releases first will probably win, and I figure Mayuri would beat Stark to the punch more often than not.

[coolerthanzerok]

Stark is lazy, not stupid. If Mayuri upped the ante with something like Bankai which, let's face it, is the ONLY way he's going to KO Stark, Stark would at LEAST put in the minimum requisite effort to dodge the Baby-Monster AND gas. At which point he'd do whatever he needed to to kill Ashisogi Jizou and, subsequently, Mayuri.

[Miyagi]

I think Starrk's team wins. Starrk is smart enough to understand Mayuri's poison is dangerous, fast enough to get out of harm's way and has ranged attacks that are powerful enough to defeat Mayuri. Ishida can defeat Matsumoto but he is not strong enough to stand a good chance against Starrk.

[Crystal Black]

Starrk and Matsumoto takes this with low difficulty to be completely honest. Mayuri isn't the physical type nor does he engage in cqc fights something Starrk does. Mayuri's bankai is the only choice and even then Starrk can match him with his range weaponry. Mayuri is a top 5 smartest character imo but intelligence alone won't get the job done against a generalist like Starrk. Uryu could defeat Matsumoto, but afterwards loses to Starrk.

[Takahashi]

Stark is lazy, not stupid. If Mayuri upped the ante with something like Bankai which, let's face it, is the ONLY way he's going to KO Stark, Stark would at LEAST put in the minimum requisite effort to dodge the Baby-Monster AND gas. At which point he'd do whatever he needed to to kill Ashisogi Jizou and, subsequently, Mayuri.

Ishida isn't stupid either, he still got poisoned without even noticing until he felt the effects of it. In fact, FQF Ishida and Stark are quite similar. They're both MUCH faster than Mayuri, excel in long range, and are both tactical and quick thinking. Still, Mayuri would have killed Ishida if it wasn't for him getting the antido-.......

Wait. I figured out a new tactic for Team Toxic Arrow! And it involves real teamwork! (Well, Mayuri teamwork).

Ishida has surveillance bacteria in him. So Mayuri sends him out to fight while chilling in his lab. Ishida gets thrashed, and Mayuri gets his stuff, and comes into the battle fully prepared and does some messed up strategy to beat Stark easily!

Ha-Ha!

...(Joking btw)...

[Sevenheadedmirror]

Ishida took out the Bankai with a long ranged attack, and was also much faster than Mayuri. I can't remember the exact number, but the poison spreads for a damn good distance, and was fast enough to catch Ishida without him even really realizing it. There were no real visual signs of the cloud either, it was just in the air.

He doesn't have the removed globes power for all I know.

[Takahashi]

He doesn't have the removed globes power for all I know.

I'm aware, my point was that Mayuri beat a very fast, long range, tactical opponent before with his Bankai poison. I was using the comparison, not suggesting Ishida could use it on his team :P