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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
@bebuxe I didnt mean it to sound like that. my bad.
I always assumed the guy just played dead when Eva "killed" him.
It's possible, but what good would it do for him
IMO It would be easier to teleport and disappear, it's not like he isn't powerful enough to stay behind the curtains... after all AR was full of high-level people and it took them years to face him... and they had collaborators all around the world, while Eva was alone and all...
OOOh you touched on a bright spot, and that one bugs me the most. Chao Ringshen stated that she came to that time to prevent the Mars accident were many people die. Her solution was to control the present society to dampen the effects of the accident. Whether or not the events of Mars occur, she was in Negi's ideal life path when cosmo entelecheai (sp) was activated. Meaning, the event may still occur, or she has other plans for coming to that time as well other than what she has stated. I think world domination, or some research. But I don't know. It may have all been carefully calculated (she is a descendant of a genius), it may have all been conviction (both?). But she did teleport with the magic of the tree with the intent of leaving. At what time? Maybe the future, to help her present, as a real convict of life should be (ever seen "Back to the Future"?)?
EDIT: Oohh snap, its no coincidence:
time police exist in her future, or all 'round the times, by her own comment. volume 18, chapter 161, page 14, middle panel.
hehehe, you know I was playing right up:
ON motherless EVA: (guns ready to fire)
Eva has assumed for the longest time she did kill her "creator" since she found him dead when she "woke up". The circumstance present many theories, but one thing is certain, as a vampire she is naturally weak. She only relies on magic for strength and her attributes of human charming due to blood poisoning. Physically, she needs to be tended with, that's why Chachamaru and her dolls exist. So thanks delSolAxe for those pointers.
Also remember, eva's existance was 500+ years of age. MM, who knows (was it said on the manga?) how long. So there is at the least 480~ years of theoretical magical development for the Lifemaker when eva was created and when the Lifemaker was introduced in Nagi's fight. We can't assume he was lord of MM since its inception, or when in the group trying to do project Cosmo Entelechai(sp) (can we? and with the same base magical power, eh?)?
But I do love Zefyris's introduced theory, it's very plausible and fits nicely. But then who was the next host after his "death" with Eva (or is it necessary to introduce? I don't think so if he has that possessive ability after a death). Hahaha, Zect's body on the seal of the world tree, that would make everyone's day. And Nagi finding the lost item of the first magic that is the old world (fairy tail cameo) with Arika on MM doing the same. lol.
Last edited by bebuxe; May 15, 2011 at 06:55 PM.
i dont think u can draw on the fact that chao shows up in CE as evidence because at this point all we know about it is that creates an ideal world for that individual, for negi that deals with all the events that led up to this point being not there. that cant be considered concrete since this ideal world would also involve anything likely happening at all in the future as well, since its ideal. so for all we know chao showing up could simply have been that she created a time machine out of curiosity (being a genius) and came to this time line or that the world doesnt take into consideration the lives of others than urself (she was simply there because negi included that as his ideal case), we have no idea.
and i dont think eva found him dead when she woke up, i believe that that she actually pursued the person in question and killed him. i believe this because to see a person dead in front u and u being a vampire, doesnt immediately click that the person is the killer, considering there could have been many dead bodies in the castle that she was in. And if i remember correctly i believe she said something about finding and killling him, but that may be me imagining things. but the result is the same (she thought he was dead but she thought wrong, and even thought the wrong person), so not going to argue if u think that she killed him when she woke up.
Actually according to poyo, his ideal life would have been if Nagi defeated all of the people that worked to make Cosmo entelechai (sp) during his time in MM. That means Negi could not have been the catalyst as poyo proclaimed he was from the moment he was fighting the remenants of Cosmo Entelechai group from the point she tried to stop him. So it still could mean it happens, it could also not. Poyo was not specific to what leads to event, but Negi is the catalyst according to her.
The fact she shows up on his dream, means just that, she shows up at his ideal present. Like you say, and I implied, we can't conclude anything. But do remember, at her time, or more to the future, there are time police. she sneaked out of the radar for this present (she said it herself). She also said she learned/borrowed-knowledge from her time to invent the watch(I would say more like proof concept of time travel with her craft).
on eva, seriously re-read. She assumed she killed everyone, like following evidence from her awaking. I do not doubt eva's testimony, that's why I am playing with Zefyris's theory. She also said she personally killed the rest of the people around, of course to survive.
correct my testimony Naruhodō Ryūichi.
but does that mean that she (xao )somehow know about the seal on of the tree? o.o' cuz to the all power of teleportation is uppon the tree .-. dunno if is predestined by the time patrol or if is the tree itself sucking the power =/ if it is when someone broke the seal, it will......lol i cant even imagine. the fact is that all the mahora city is turning this tree as the city symbol. dunno why ;=; but as we know, mundos magicus is uppon us =/ so we can expect that they probaly have already something in mind when this happen.
and a gift to all of you guys. i painted this page a litle while ago. and is one of my favorites.
Last edited by animefinder; May 15, 2011 at 08:05 PM.
I agree with BluFlaim that you might be overthinking the fact that Chao appears in Negi's Cosmo Entelecheia.
it was a pretty harsh thing to him, having to go out of his way to crush Chao's dreams and all. heck, he was pretty confused at one point too. to me, the fact that Chao appears there is just Negi's wish that the whole thing never happened and that Chao had a normal student's life.
as for Eva, she says so explicitly that she killed the guy in this chapter and back here as well. also, it was 600 years ago; she specifies so in this chapter.
as for the Time Patrol thing, I just assumed it a joke myself. maybe some obscure reference to something, but who knows
Chapter is out!
So do we have to wait another month for the next chapter?
Last edited by Jaiden82; May 15, 2011 at 10:36 PM.
only a month?
i want to see what is the new fate's decision. what he bring into his mind right now and i will paint the last page .-.
if something was wrong the author puts a note at the last page of the chapter... there was no such thing in current one so the usuall release date...
ITT: ppl that miss the joke
edit: just in case for those worrywarts who are still unsure about the next chapter: it says so clearly that it will continue in the next issue. look for this in the last page and googletranslate it if u dont trust me: 次号につづく
Last edited by Ceipheed; May 16, 2011 at 07:34 AM.
mahora city, now that's funny. Think of it of Mahora Academy's number 1 mascot, ok. Nothing of worship there, except maybe the ceremony. Thanks for the pic, you draw better than me any day anyways (hehehe). I still love that master-of-the-world scene with her regalia.
EDIT: took me long to find it:
I lost the case. hehehe
EDIT: I take it back:
zazie here is telling that indeed chao rinshen's event could have been prevent from happing if negi really defeated the lifemaker, making like I said "she may be here for another reason other than preventing a bad future". But I kinda agree that it may be a desire from Negi's heart, thus she is in his dream, and has nothing to do with future events, since it is still a dreamworld. whatever, the present now is stopping the lifemaker from resurrecting and doing negi's plan for saving MM.
Last edited by bebuxe; May 19, 2011 at 01:42 PM.