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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
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We don't know the internal mechanics on how Soifon's Bankai works, or her Reiatsu output, which is my main point here.Quote:
The purpose of closing the distance was to make sure that the missile would make contact with Barragan's body. Based on this panel, it's clear that Barragan missed a direct hit, since his left arm and right eye socket survived, but his right arm and left eye socket were blown away(this also proves TDF is not throughly consistent in terms of strength). If the missile did make contact on Barragan, then his entire body would've been obliterated, not just his right arm and left eye socket. So Barragan could've either dodged the missile(especially when he's shitting bricks), or had just enough time to age it. I do believe that a direct hit(without Hachi's barrier) would obliterate Barragan, but I don't see Soifon accomplishing that feat even if her Bankai was more convenient. Reason being is because her Bankai is a linear attack(unless it's a heat seeking missile), which means that Soifon can still easily miss. The other reason is the possibility that Barragan was still fast enough to use Respira and detonated the missile while inside of Hachi's barrier. My final reason is the TDF that surrounds Barragan, which would automatically protect Barry from a direct hit since he used that same defensive ability to re-direct the initial explosion away from himself. So you're right that part of the reason was to close the distance for a direct hit, but that was just a bonus, since it wasn't a guarantee. The main reason was to condense the blast force, because we all know Barragan can't escape the entire explosion while inside the barrier. Besides, even if Soifon did shoot her Bankai from such a close distance, she would still be at risk of getting caught by the explosion regardless. Fortunately, Hachi's barrier was there to protect Soifon by containing most of the blast force. So in conclusion, I'd say it'll still be very difficult for Soifon to injure Barragan without Hachi's barrier due to her Bankai's lack of flexibility(even with better convenience).Quote:
Temporarily taking out Komamura does not factually prove Hadou #90 is stronger than Soifon's Bankai, which is my main point here. Also, just because Aizen carries more Reiatsu than most captains, doesn't mean he always exerts more than them. But this is pointless anyways, since we both agree that Aizen would make Barragan look like fodder in the end.Quote:
Last edited by Omiem; May 20, 2011 at 11:27 PM.
Thing is, how do you know it was the real Aizen who originally cut her from the front? KS allows complete control of the five senses, you could cut someone in the back, and make them feel, see, and hear it in the front. Hell, you could not touch them at all if you wanted. I'm aware Aizen has never displayed (as far as we know) such tactics, but it's been emphasized MANY times that he has complete control over the 5 senses, so it's always a possibility. Hell, look how Aizen was beaten, by making him too power-drunk to to even use his damn ability Funnily enough, Barragan had the arrogance factor to limit him as well.Quote:
Respira itself isn't really a defense, the Time Dilation Field however is, and it's a damn good one. Getting a rocket in the face and point blank and having a passive defense allow you to live through it without serious injuries (for a skeleton) is an awesome defense in my mindQuote:
And yeah, the only way to kill him is probably to blow him into pieces, but that in itself is an awesome durability "feat" isn't it? I think his defense is crazy good because of both of those two factors.
I wouldn't say poor writing, but just limiting Aizen for the sake of him not being TOO cheap. Which I guess WAS poor writing in the initial stage of creating his abilityQuote:
Next round, I can't see Urahara losing to Barragan. Harribel can get KO'd by any of them, and as Barragan's Respira doesn't seem to be able to be aimed at more than one person he gets double-teamed.
Round 3, Yoruichi beats Tousen, Urahara can beat base AiZen, without KS. Urahara can also beat Gin. Isshin can probably hold one of them off while Urahara beats the other, then help Yoruichi while Urahara beats the other one.
Round 4, I think if Isshin stays back and GT's Shinji/WW, or Urahara Benihime's from a distance, they'll win easily. a CQC Yoruichi would require Shinji to activate his Sakanade, and while one of the fighters is at long range they can beat Shinji before it hits them. Then WW gets stomped.
As for the last fight, I think Urahara, Yoruichi and Isshin can beat Yamamoto. I don't really have any evidence for this, as Yamamoto hasn't shown us any attacks and therefore I don't know which strategy would be best, but if Urahara can come so close to beating AiZen single-handedly, then I think that combined with a GT and Yoruichi would win...
The trio gets nowhere, shunsui and stark together is just too strong.
Match-ups are iffy. The way Shunsui and Ukitake fight aren't sitting there fighting one person at a time. They team up and know eachother's every move. Play bait for the other, absorb one attack and throw it at you or someone else. They go to dodge it or counter it, here comes Shunsui- you move away from him Ukitake is there again. Sure other teams can do the same, but these two have trained together, went to the academy together, been captains together, for longer than any tandem there is in Bleach. That right there should be worth a lot. Not even mentioning Yama's own words about their combined abilities being better than anyone.