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    Re: Layla Heartfilia and Dragons

    Lucy is almost one year at Fairy Tail.
    So I assume right after this arc she'll have her 18th Birthday and something will happen. Just a guess of course.

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    Re: Layla Heartfilia and Dragons

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyguardian View Post
    Lucy is almost one year at Fairy Tail.
    So I assume right after this arc she'll have her 18th Birthday and something will happen. Just a guess of course.
    thats actually a good idea if it wasnt for the fact that Lucy has been six monts in FT and she joined close to her birthday unless mashima will make months pass until the next arc :/ or do something before it

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    Re: Layla Heartfilia and Dragons

    Quote Originally Posted by ca12nag3 View Post
    Before we start derailing, i personaly believe that everyone has a main magic typ and is capable of using every typ of magic, however the result isnt all that great with the other typs.

    Layla as well as her daughter Lucy are both Celestial mages, and well Unisonraid was a 2 person magic special. And the other one was a implanted spell she was able to use due to magical potential she hasnt unlocked yet.
    i agree with u that all mages can use any element/type magic but find one major/main element/type magic.
    Lucy does have some hidden magical potential that i thought would be unlocked in this arc but i guess not >,<...

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    Re: Layla Heartfilia and Dragons

    Quote Originally Posted by ca12nag3 View Post
    Before we start derailing, i personaly believe that everyone has a main magic typ and is capable of using every typ of magic, however the result isnt all that great with the other typs.

    Layla as well as her daughter Lucy are both Celestial mages, and well Unisonraid was a 2 person magic special. And the other one was a implanted spell she was able to use due to magical potential she hasnt unlocked yet.
    People don't have innate magic types like you're describing. Witness for example Leon and Gray, two entirely random kids that were trained by Ul to be proficient in Ice Make. People's magic depends on what they learned, and most people become proficient in only whatever they start out with. Lucy's a stellar spirit summoner not because she was born that way, but because her mother inclined her to like the spirits and want to learn to be a summoner herself.

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    Re: Layla Heartfilia and Dragons

    Quote Originally Posted by Krono View Post
    People don't have innate magic types like you're describing. Witness for example Leon and Gray, two entirely random kids that were trained by Ul to be proficient in Ice Make. People's magic depends on what they learned, and most people become proficient in only whatever they start out with. Lucy's a stellar spirit summoner not because she was born that way, but because her mother inclined her to like the spirits and want to learn to be a summoner herself.
    Your twisting my words around (again). I said that has a main magic typ . I never said they are born with it. You twist it around to innate. This isnt the first time you do that.

    I said they have a main magic typ, most of the mages learn it, some are possibly gifted with it or MAYBE born with it. For example the dragonslayers.

    As with any proffession you got specialists, maybe its best to take millitary proffesions as example.

    You got a medic, specialized in healing, tho he can shoot a gun and underwent basic training. But he will never be as good a shot as say, a sniper who specializes in long distance shots.

    However i do think but am not sure that dragonslayers are either born with their ability (thus they are actualy human form dragons). Or they are implanted with a dragonpart. In wich case the difference between the lachrima dragonslayer and the real dragonslayer is only in the fact that the real one has a real dragon part and the lachrima ones got lachrimas that mimic a dragon.

    As for Layla and Lucy well its obvious that they both are celestial mages not due to being born with it but perhaps like with most talents, wich might be seen as an aditional factor. Most people are good at the same things as 1 or either parent but its not a given ofc. Since some are and some arnt.

    For example Cana and Gildarts are related but Cana is factualy a lesser gifted mage + uses a totaly different magic typ.

    the 3 siblings Mira,Lissana,Elfman all use transformation magic. I supose its a talent due to their parents.

    So many factors contribute to determin typ and skill of the mage.

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    Re: Layla Heartfilia and Dragons

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuzumikun View Post
    i agree with u that all mages can use any element/type magic but find one major/main element/type magic.
    Lucy does have some hidden magical potential that i thought would be unlocked in this arc but i guess not >,<...
    dont give up yet the arc still isnt over and she's got a new cool dress she needs to rip -.-" lame joke sorry i cant even laugh...

    anywho natsu as i said could use transformation magic, Lucy seems to be able to use some kind of celestial spells or light spells...

    so far we've got all connections
    Zeref-Dragons-Layla
    and then
    Natsu-Gajeel-Wendy-Lucy and have you noticed all the 7?

    777 - a very mysterious year where Layla and dragons are gone
    7 years ago layla died
    in the year (you guessed right)777!
    and the dragons were gone on the date 7/7/777 in which we suspect Layla died (or whatnot) too!
    7 kin of purgatory i dont think this he will use though :/

    EDIT;
    Also just watched edolas ep 77
    Charle said wendy and natsu survived the edolas trip because they had special powers as DS but Lucy also survived (Gray and Erza were revived if i remember well) so i think we got a confirmation she's special xD ie if im correct which makes it fishy once again!

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    Re: Layla Heartfilia and Dragons

    Quote Originally Posted by RaveDragon View Post
    EDIT;
    Also just watched edolas ep 77
    Charle said wendy and natsu survived the edolas trip because they had special powers as DS but Lucy also survived (Gray and Erza were revived if i remember well) so i think we got a confirmation she's special xD ie if im correct which makes it fishy once again!
    dunno how the anime will put it but she was hid inside her clock-spirit when it happend. So its special but nothing that confirms anything. The clock even explained that he noticed something and came to her rescue. (to lazy to exactly read it back).
    Btw all her spirits can freely show up

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    Re: Layla Heartfilia and Dragons

    Quote Originally Posted by ca12nag3 View Post
    dunno how the anime will put it but she was hid inside her clock-spirit when it happend. So its special but nothing that confirms anything. The clock even explained that he noticed something and came to her rescue. (to lazy to exactly read it back).
    Btw all her spirits can freely show up
    I completely and utterly forgot D= but yes the fact that her spirits are coming and going all alone is wierd, i dont think its normal for a celestial mage and Loki switched with Aries so he didnt do it with Karen:/ its suspicious too, i wonder if Aquarius and the two C's could go to Layla like that even when she gave her keys away (well Caprico couldnt due to Zoldeo haha)

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    Re: Layla Heartfilia and Dragons

    I think those 3 got a lot to explain to Lucy and somehow they are actualy withholding information. Certainly cause Lucy is clueless about the pact Layla made with the 3 mages that had the 3 keys.

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    Re: Layla Heartfilia and Dragons

    Quote Originally Posted by ca12nag3 View Post
    I think those 3 got a lot to explain to Lucy and somehow they are actualy withholding information. Certainly cause Lucy is clueless about the pact Layla made with the 3 mages that had the 3 keys.
    Yup, totally agree with you. To a certain extent, I think Lucy seems to be clueless about her mums's past, not just the pact that she made.

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    Re: Layla Heartfilia and Dragons

    Quote Originally Posted by ca12nag3 View Post
    I think those 3 got a lot to explain to Lucy and somehow they are actualy withholding information. Certainly cause Lucy is clueless about the pact Layla made with the 3 mages that had the 3 keys.
    This really does make sense, i dont think her mom even tutored her or anything :/ i dont think she told her much and Lucy probably set off not only to become a writer she could have done that without becoming a mage but also to find out about her mum or fulfill her mum's destiny or something fancy xD but i'm sure theres more to her being a mage than her novel ^^

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    Yup, totally agree with you. To a certain extent, I think Lucy seems to be clueless about her mums's past, not just the pact that she made.
    She always seems so sad though when she mentions her mom her face is always drawn very sad and pained, i dont think lucy know why her mum died (which is prob dragon and/or zeref) but maybe she was present and cannot understand why or knows some vague info

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    Re: Layla Heartfilia and Dragons

    just a crazy idea...what if layla and zoldeo belonged to the same guild in the past?

    @Ravedragon: Yeah, I used to think that Layla would belong to a good guild but so far, no one from fairy tail and blue pegasus recognised her despite the striking resemblance between layla and lucy. There are other guilds such as lamier scale but since not much attention was given to them, I don't think she's from any of them. Secondly, I do agree Layla is a nice person but being nice doesn't mean you can't come from a dark guild. She could be a good person who unfortunately ended up working for evil forces.

    So that pretty much narrows to the last remaining well-known good guild(I forgot the name), evil guild such as tartaros ( I don't think it's raven tail) or the council.

    Note that Layla didn't seem to reveal her mage life entirely to Lucy...why is she so shady with her past? unless she was from a dark guild.

    The only thing that I have no inkling of is her connection to the dragons(if there's any-but I'm assuming there is because it'd be such an anti-climax if everything is a coincidence.)

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    Re: Layla Heartfilia and Dragons

    Quote Originally Posted by saya1987 View Post
    just a crazy idea...what if layla and zoldeo belonged to the same guild in the past?

    @Ravedragon: Yeah, I used to think that Layla would belong to a good guild but so far, no one from fairy tail and blue pegasus recognised her despite the striking resemblance between layla and lucy. There are other guilds such as lamier scale but since not much attention was given to them, I don't think she's from any of them. Secondly, I do agree Layla is a nice person but being nice doesn't mean you can't come from a dark guild. She could be a good person who unfortunately ended up working for evil forces.

    So that pretty much narrows to the last remaining well-known good guild(I forgot the name), evil guild such as tartaros ( I don't think it's raven tail) or the council.

    Note that Layla didn't seem to reveal her mage life entirely to Lucy...why is she so shady with her past? unless she was from a dark guild.

    The only thing that I have no inkling of is her connection to the dragons(if there's any-but I'm assuming there is because it'd be such an anti-climax if everything is a coincidence.)
    woukd explain how she met him but not why she trusted him, it clearly stated Zoldeo wasnt bad but turned greedy with power or something along those lines

    it may be she was orphaned and used but a kind hearted person who ran away and such, or maybe she had a change of heart or was never truly 'evil'

    it also could be that Makarov told the older members (as the younger ones dont know her for sure seeing as she left 20 years ago) to not say anything? just a guess, but Makarov seemed protective of Lucy and she was still new (phantom arc) but then again FT people seem to warm up to people fast xD

    I also wanna see porylusca meeting Lucy, dont think they meet yet, might be interesting haha imagine Layla is the only human she liked and thus she likes Lucy.

    there are theories that Layla wasnt human too but i doubt them, i think she was just a very powerful mage xD maybe she was the celestial/light/? dragon slayer or something explaining er connection to the dragons

    would love to see a Layla chapter on her past in whatever guild she was would be rather interesting maybe when Lucy meets up the other two who gave her the keys of Aquarius and Cancer

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    Re: Layla Heartfilia and Dragons

    Ok Just To clear Thing Up about layla's past

    Layla Heartfilia was a Celestial Spirit Mage who worked on the merchant's guild, "Love & Lucky" (that is her guild) where she met and fell in love with Jude Heartfilia. Layla became pregnant with Lucy. Lucys Magic Involves Celestial Spirit Magic, Unison Raid, Uranometria Ush,i no Koku Mairi, so guess she dose have alot of powers and lucy seams like the strongest Celestial Spirit Mage because she can like summon like 9 spirits at a time. so LUCY IS NOT WEAK and i really dont think that layla is a dragon slayer but i do believe she is connected with them thats what i think if wrong do tell (soz if spelt anything wrong)

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    Re: Layla Heartfilia and Dragons

    No I'm with you, there is hope right now we might get some answers in the climax of this arc =] Personally i want chibi lucy and layla flashbacks and some layla dragons as well if she really was involved

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