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    Talent in Bleach

    This thread is about anything relating to talent in Bleach.

    I was wondering what you guys think the connection is between talent and birth in bleach. Remember what Byakuya said: http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bleach/v19/c162/8.html

    Nobles are always exceptionally talented. Than there's what's been said about Ichigo and Aizen: http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bleach/v16/c137/19.html, http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bleach/v16/c137/20.html, http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bleach/v44/c397/17.html, http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bleach/v47/c422/15.html

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    Re: Talent in Bleach

    I think what byakuya says makes sense. Have we ever seen a noble who was not at least a seated officer? Kyoraku, ukitake, byakuya, soifon and yoruichi are all confirmed nobles and they are all captain level shinigami. Kaien was somewhere between captain and VC level too. Omaeda is a worthless slob and he somehow acquired enough power to be a VC. Ganju is just about as worthless and he also got power apparently comparable to a VC. Kukaku seemed a bit about a VC at least. Byakuya's dad made it to VC and his grandfather was a captain. In a nutshell, every single noble we have seen so far has what could be referred to as captain level power in somewhat broad terms.

    From what we know, nobles are born in SS from other souls. In that sense they are a bit different from regular human souls. Nobles are born with reiatsu while human souls apparently awaken and develop it with time. The regular human soul would be at a disadvantage as reiatsu is something inherent to nobles while for regular humans it is an acquire trait. I think that makes a bit of a difference.

    Now, that is not to say that all nobles are more talented than all regular humans but in general I think it is the case. We know thanks to the databook that not all with reiatsu get accepted into the academy. Also, not all who attend the academy get to graduate. And from those who graduate only the best actually become shinigami. Even with so many people being ruled out in the process we actually see some shinigami within the gotei 13 who are by all intents and purposes worthless. Heck, in the scale we have seen usually anyone beneath the VCs is basically powerless. Anyways, from the regular people we see the vast majority of them are essentially powerless. Even if the average noble has the reiatsu of a 20th seat, it is still far more power than what the average non noble has. The difference is actually so great in itself that it is actually hard to express lol.

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    Re: Talent in Bleach

    Here's my thoughts on Ichigo and his talent:



    I admire Ichigo's tenacity, talent, his ability to concentrate and his personality. I think he's an amazing shinigami. The mental qualities Ichigo has gives him a strong mental foundation. Ichigo's ability to prioritize supports his resolve. Ichigo knows clearly what's truly important to him and how important it is to him, that's why he can put everything into protecting what's most important and forget everything else. His fear, his doubt, his pain, his life, etc. become meaningless in front of what's truly important to him, because he gives what's important to him so much meaning and significance:
    http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bleach/v13/c110/4.html, http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bleach/v13/c110/5.html, http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bleach/v13/c110/7.html, http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bleach/v13/c110/8.html, http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bleach/v13/c110/9.html


    This is why Ichigo can focus so well, he can ignore everything, but what's important to him, everything but what has meaning at that moment. He can focus on one thing to the exclusion of everything else. Since his resolve is so strong Ichigo can focus much higher than a normal person and that's were I think his talent lies, his ability to concentrate:


    Urahara seems to possess extraordinary talent as well. Even after seeing Ichigo's combat techniques improve so much, she was questioning whether or not Ichigo is as talented as Urahara: http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bleach/v16/c132/17.html, http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bleach/v16/c132/19.html


    For Ichigo, acquiring strength as a shinigami meant cultivating a growing sense of self-awareness and acceptance. During every stage of growth Ichigo is learning more about himself. Mastery of his shikai meant trusting in and becoming familiar with the avatar of his shinigami self, Zangetsu. Acquiring bankai meant gaining enough awareness to distinguish between the weakness and the strength within his soul. To subdue and master his hollow, Ichigo had to accept his hollow like tendencies (his instinct).

    Mastering his bankai and truly mastering his hollow was only possible when Ichigo fully accepted Zangetsu and Shirosaki, as well as the suffering that came with them.
    Last edited by En Yang Ji; May 25, 2011 at 04:51 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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