Reborn 337 Discussion/ 338 Predictions

[RaveDragon]

If Spade took the time to gather the Shimon rings, why did he not take the time to gather the Sun Vongola Gear off Ryohei? I think the whole Ryohei-being-in-vindicare-too thing is kinda forgotten...

Yeah but till now he just showed he had the vongola cloud gear so he might not need it or is about to show it off in the near future i think we should wait to say this ^^

Maybe he doesn't need it though could it be he holds the ORIGINAL vongola rings, maybe the rings Tsuna have are the more controlled and Daemon has the more powerful prototypes? Or something less far fetched...

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i think the explosion Daemon created is a distraction so that all of them will fall in his illusion and clearly all of them fall for it


it is already stated that only the guardians have the power to use the gears or amano is really making Deamon's skill a hax

Technically Daemon was ad still is, though a traitorous one, the first guardian of the mist, thus he should be able to use the ring

[meepers4982]

im curious as to what damon spades power is, maybe its just an illusion and we are led to believe it is an ability we dont know about yet. Its wierd seeing mukuro talk as an owl. I want to see what the illusionary world will be like for the three trapped in it.

[kidopitz27]

what i'm saying is he can't use other vogola guardians ring but he can use his 1st gen Vongola mist ring and that's it

thats why i'm saying that if it is an illusion that he casted so that all of them will see that he can use other guardians ring or he is just purely a hax enemy

[moonueki21]

I agree with the people who say that Daemon can still use the Vongola Mist ring. It's his first element... now I wonder what he did with Ryohei's VG.

[eefrit]

Wait what do you guy mean by the original rings?

Anyway terrific chapter. This makes me wonder how strong the other First Generation guardians were. I have to agree with Mukuro's scolding of Chrome, this is a far more pressing matter and trying not to harm his body would just be suicide.

Deamon's power seem to be the most perfect representation of the mist flames "construction". Add that to his already powerful bag of tricks, this will most definitely be a tougher battle than Byakuran. Him taking the Shimon rings was pretty surprising. Although he is most likely at his most powerful, why take the rings? Is he not confident in his own strength? As for him not taking Ryohei's band, I would wait and see, the arc's not over yet.

I am also questioning Reborn's reasoning for letting Hibari attack Deamon alone. Hibari is powerful but I think Reborn is putting a little too much faith in him.

[matzik1212]

I am also questioning Reborn's reasoning for letting Hibari attack Deamon alone. Hibari is powerful but I think Reborn is putting a little too much faith in him.

you know it's not like anything reborn might have said would stop hibari so no big deal here ....it's true hibari shows interest in reborn but i think if he really wants to fight an opponent nothing reborn could say would matter
besides they must attack daemon with everything they have and as soon possible if they wanna have a tiny chance and it's obvious they can't afford to let hibari out and we all know he doesn't like to mix with the crowds so that's why reborn left him attack alone

[sakura_fai]

besides they must attack daemon with everything they have and as soon possible if they wanna have a tiny chance and it's obvious they can't afford to let hibari out and we all know he doesn't like to mix with the crowds so that's why reborn left him attack alone

You have a point. Besides, Hibari is the strongest (as mentioned by Daemon Spade) of the guardians, he can adapt and take any surprises Daemon throws at him and still be okay. The battle will give Tsuna and co. a chance to observe Daemon, weaken Spade, AND lets the fighting-driven Hibari enjoy his favorite hobby, fighting.

^^; Does anyone know Copycat from X-men? I think that's Mukuro's power. He has the ability to copy the powers of those he sees, and he could always project the images of the shimon rings and vongolar gear. Or perhaps, once he's seen the gear, he can duplicate it and use its power. Plus, a possibility why the Vindice could be so powerful is because they copy the user's power and turns it against the user, which is why few people can resist the Vindice. Then again, who knows? It's Amano-sensei we're reading here...

On a lighter note, Daemon Spade says and does the most randomest things....XD He's so easy to make fun of (hairstlye!), maybe that's why he wants power to crush the snickers...
But Mukuro as an owl reminds me of the traditional old, advisor the owl is portrayed as. X3

[RaveDragon]

You have a point. Besides, Hibari is the strongest (as mentioned by Daemon Spade) of the guardians, he can adapt and take any surprises Daemon throws at him and still be okay. The battle will give Tsuna and co. a chance to observe Daemon, weaken Spade, AND lets the fighting-driven Hibari enjoy his favorite hobby, fighting.

^^; Does anyone know Copycat from X-men? I think that's Mukuro's power. He has the ability to copy the powers of those he sees, and he could always project the images of the shimon rings and vongolar gear. Or perhaps, once he's seen the gear, he can duplicate it and use its power. Plus, a possibility why the Vindice could be so powerful is because they copy the user's power and turns it against the user, which is why few people can resist the Vindice. Then again, who knows? It's Amano-sensei we're reading here...

On a lighter note, Daemon Spade says and does the most randomest things....XD He's so easy to make fun of (hairstlye!), maybe that's why he wants power to crush the snickers...
But Mukuro as an owl reminds me of the traditional old, advisor the owl is portrayed as. X3

Agreed, its one of those situations when you regret making fun of the ambigous character xD now he's super Daemon with a super hairstyle, super mysterous language and super wierd clothes lol
all in all a good villain i must say.

Im pretty sure thanks to him shimon and vongola will be so close together now that he'll scream his head off at how his plan backfired xD

[unstoppableonez]

I think some powers of vongola/shimon haven't shown yet in the chapter.

I believe that Tsuna has another Cambio Forma other than his upgraded X-Glove Version Vongola Gear. And I'm looking forward for the chapter that he will use the Zero Point Breakthrough First Edition

Gokudera's Sistema CAI was shown. I thought he don't have that anymore.. and his G Archery wasn't used yet.

Yamamoto - hmm I think he has another Shiguren shoen form? or he will add the Sadachi and Udachi in his all-in-one shiguren shoen style. I believe he can use four swords

Lambo - maybe he can turn into twenty year old and use his VG hahahaha

Hibari.. In his fight with adelheid.. One power hasn't shown other than Tonfa,Roll and Handcuffs.. Do you remember the fight between TYL Hibari and Genkishi? The Reversed needle sphere Form. I believe he can use it

Chrome - I was thinking if her VG can turn Cambio Forma although mukuro was possessing Mukurowl. I'm looking forward that she will be the one who will finish Daemon Spade

Enma - his powers are still unknown. He has another ability other than summoning stars and turn it to black hole.. Maybe he has X-Burner-like attack?

Julie - How will he escape the Illusion world created by DS. He doesn't have the shimon ring anymore.. maybe his ability was like this : http://www.mangareader.net/284-54941...apter-296.html

Destroying their Ears? LOL or he can summon illusions?


All of them are still in the mystery.. Including reborn. I think reborn is the arcobaleno who was with Bermuda in the story of Past Vongola and Shimon..


That's only my predictions

Heh, Can't wait

[kidopitz27]

i think Daemon will be surprised that the 10th gen is just using 10% of their real gears

[Koen]

I must say that Reborn has impressed me positively due to the recent events and chapters. It is very great that Daemon took over a body which he can probably use at its maximum, even the vindice can't stop daemon. I also find it intriguing that he can use the earth rings from the shimon family.

The most interesting development is however when he said in previous chapter "well, then shall we end this? Your world that is"... I wonder if there's yet again a connection with the dimension theory was given us during the millefiore arc. Byakuran showed up for some reason, he probably foresaw the mess coming along with Daemon Spade's actions

[benette]

It's not that the Vindice can't stop Daemon, but they don't want to meddle with him because he is still part of the Vongola. It was clearly stated that they can whip his ass if they wanted to. Still, I think Daemon knows the reason because he's too confident that they will not intervene.

Random speculation: Uncle Kawahira to the rescue again? LOL

[LJkAze]

I believe that Tsuna has another Cambio Forma other than his upgraded X-Glove Version Vongola Gear. And I'm looking forward for the chapter that he will use the Zero Point Breakthrough First Edition

Indeed all Tsuna has shown was just XX Burner and he wasn't even trying to fight but to save his friend Enma. Tsuna probably only showed like 10% and has yet to reveal natsu offense mode; remember he still haven't shown his defensive form Mantel. Yes the First Edition and Kai must be use but also Tsuna need a new type of ZPB: maybe an Earth element type.

Gokudera's Sistema CAI was shown. I thought he don't have that anymore.. and his G Archery wasn't used yet

Gokudera not that weak; if he had only the Vongola Gear it's too much of downgrade for him. G archery is useless in this battle unless that get upgraded aswell which i don't it happening. There has to be more to Gokudera Vongola Gear; it's just too weak.

Yamamoto - hmm I think he has another Shiguren shoen form? or he will add the Sadachi and Udachi in his all-in-one shiguren shoen style. I believe he can use four swords

It's good that Yamamoto keep learning new moves but what he need to do is with all the move he has learnt he should upgrade those move into v2 instead of just keep coming up with newer moves.

Lambo - maybe he can turn into twenty year old and use his VG hahahaha

Well Lambo is with Gokudera so he don't really need to fight. Lambo need to find a way to fit that Vongola Gear of his well im pretty sure he can fit it into his afro considering he fight so many junk and especially the long ass Bazooka of his.

Hibari.. In his fight with adelheid.. One power hasn't shown other than Tonfa,Roll and Handcuffs.. Do you remember the fight between TYL Hibari and Genkishi? The Reversed needle sphere Form. I believe he can use it

Daemon has been observing all the fight; that Cloud Vongola Gear is just an illusion. In order for Hibari to win this fight he must exceed Vongola Gear unless Hibari has yet to show all his power against Aldehied. Reversed needle sphere is of the past or wait of the future or wait the skill that he use of the past in the future. Remember this RN requires 3 Ring put into 1 box; we're not in the box era anymore so RN is useless. Also you really think that suffocating Daemon will help win the battle?

[necrofantasia]

To be honest, I am really hoping that Chrome gets to actually participate in this fight. Let's face it - she is obviously the one with the biggest investment in this fight with the possible exception of Enma, who wants Daemon finished off so that the Shimon can get busted out of prison. Chrome not only has the motivation of wanting to save Ryohei, who is a fellow Guardian and friend, but also of wanting to save Mukuro. And of course it'd be nice to see her be able to fight back against this creep. Not only did he torture her with the "let's explode your organs" game, he mind controlled her and forced her to strip naked in front of him and later was nuzzling her neck and shit - and Chrome, don't forget, is thirteen fucking years old.

I realize that Tsuna (or maybe an Enma and Tsuna combo) will be the ones to finish him off, but I hope Chrome at least gets to participate against the guy who tortured and basically sexually assaulted her. I'm not opposed to seeing things like Hibari getting a shot, but I'm much more interested in Chrome having her chance.

[Debu]

I am ready for KHR to have a villain that persists through multiple arcs. Thus far, *every* villain has become an ally -- it's time for there to be a long-term threat. An illusionist who can do .. well, everything .. is a good candidate, as he can transfer to a new body upon each defeat. Besides, Daemon has got to be such a wealth of knowledge -- it'd be a shame if they defeated him in short order.