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Translations: Bleach 600 by BadKarma
Aizen with ease
Aizen with difficulty
Yama with ease
Yama with difficulty
Who wins? Zero restrictions are put on either one (other than the fact that Aizen doesn't use KS in this form ofc).
Many people seem to think that Aizen would lose to Yama when in his Shinigami form (but with access to KS). I personally don't believe this, but this is an entirely difference scenario altogether. KS is not being used this time, but Aizen receives an immense power boost.
This is a tough call, but I'm gonna say Aizen. His durability feats (level ninety-something Hado, Reiatsu cuffs, Juzutsunagi, point blank GT from Isshin) are extremely impressive, and despite causing visible damage, seemed not to influence his fighting abilities. He dealt quite easily with 3 of the most powerful Shinigami, one of whom appeared to be his approximate equal prior to his transformations, and one of whom seemed to even surpass him in base. Yamamoto on the other hand, has devastating fire attacks, and immense physical strength as displayed in the fight against WW, but I am lead to believe that his abilities (with the exception of the raw power of his Zanpaktou) did not exceed Shinigami Aizen's by that much. So with such an enhancement of his abilities, I feel that Aizen will emerge the winner of this battle.
Added Scenario Pic ~ WD
Last edited by Waking_Dreamer; May 18, 2011 at 11:00 AM.
Aizen would win.
I mean, he's survived things people shouldn't survive, the most important of which is taking a GT that cleaved him nearly in half and left a gaping wound in his skull.
You should not survive this kind of shit
Besides, once he got serious he destroyed all three of those guys. And all in all, if Yamamoto overpowers him, he transforms. After all...
But seriously, Aizen should win in condom form, unless his regeneration is restricted.Quote:
Well, we don't know what Bankai Yamamoto could do, but impressions give that the only attack Shikai Yamamoto had that was capable of one-shotting base Aizen was EJ, and that required massive amounts of prep.
Condom Aizen naturally possesses tons more durability and survivability than base Aizen, so I'll give him the win over Shikai Yamamoto with difficulty. Not sure about Bankai Yamamoto; however, ordinary Shinigami like Isshin, Urahara, and Yoruichi, were able to push him into another stage, so I wouldn't count Bankai Yamamoto out yet.
IMHO Aizen's durability feats were actually hogyoku's feats, nobody can kill Aizen as long as he is the master of hogyoku, hogyoku will keep reviving him. If Yamamoto is supposed to kill Aizen, he can't win unless his bankai is strong enough to incinerate hogyoku along with Aizen.
If forcing a transformation is enough, then IMHO bankai Yamamoto will definitely win. Gin's bankai forced a transformation, I think Yamamoto can do enough damage to force such transformation.
chrysalis aizen wins this, hogi will just keep regening him, no what damage yama dishes out, the fact that the hogi made aizen practically immortal enables aizen to emerge victorious, yamas most powerfulest attacks require preperation time so aizen wins this but against someone like yama id say aizen wins with difficulty.
Ok, I think I was a bit misleading by saying no restrictions. I'll clarify - Yama's Bankai is of course restricted because we know nothing about it. Also, any Hogyoku induced regeneration/transformation is restricted for Aizen - it's JUST his Chrysalis form vs Shikai Yama.
EJ wasn't even the strongest attack from Yama. We didn't see it's conclusion. It's name means the flames of hell. DEATH is hell, Purgatory. The literal translation is sweltering heat; hell. That means death by heat or flames of hell. That's but one technique we also saw including joukaku enjou, the blazing fortress which encased Aizen Gin and Tosen. Those are not his most powerful move. We heard from Aizen what ALL of his fire could do. That's level the whole area of Karakura Town and then some. I'm inclined to believe that those flames of hell were hot enough and strong enough to melt EVERYTHING including the hoguyoku. There's no reason to think he would kill himself for nothing. I think it's an assured conclusion to Aizen and the hoguyoku. Even after all the evolution Ukitake said that there was still yet to be a being of Yama's caliber. Think about it. He ate a sword through the gut, ate a punch from RESURECCION WW- when sealed WW impaled Ukitake, then after he single bone punched WW, he ate MORE punches. He then proceeds to rip WW's arms off when HIS OWN ARMS are being held. Not like Aizen who cut off Gin's arm. After that he PUNCHES WW with double bone into oblivion. Then EATS ALL of his own fire and still has enough guile to use hado 96? Yama takes this fight.
Last edited by cloudo; May 16, 2011 at 02:37 PM.
Yamamoto should take this imo. Aizen's chrysalis stage was just a shell that was broken by a combonation of Shunko, Benihime's Juzutsunagi and Getsuga Tenshou. None of these attacks with the exception of Isshin's Getsuga can compare imo. From what we've seen from Aizen's chrysalis stage, he is extremely arrogant. Something that could be too suicidal against Yama-jii.
If there's no hogyoku induced regeneration, then IMHO Yamamoto has a pretty good chance to win. I think hogyoku was the reason why Aizen survived the attacks of Urahara, Yoruichi and Isshin and IMHO Aizen's arrogance would spell doom against a heavy-hitter like Yamamoto.
Yamamoto has just about enough raw power in his fists to destroy an Arrancar not saying it compares to Aizen, but thats his fists, his base sword should be enough to damage Aizen. This is a less careless Aizen afterall. Ryuujin Jakka should have enough potential damage power to crack his shell.
You think yama is not arrogant? In his fight against Aizen/WW all he did was to continuously call him a foolish child while claiming his powers to be far greater than Aizen's as he is the strongest shinigami in the last 1000 years and his fists will suffice to take him down.
Look at what happened though. Yama is possibly one of he least intelligent characters in bleach.
if aizen doesn't have regen or any other forms yama takes this