Clare, more powerful than a rank 47 prior to being a HA

[HegemonKhan]

I'm going to argue/propose that Clare has always been powerful, even from ch 1 to before she becomes a HA (after she killed the SNY in the Rabona cathedral).

Clare the Superhuman Child:

Clare has been an incredibly "powerful" (tough) super human child.

When her family was killed and eaten by the first NY in her life, she wasn't scared at all, by the grizzly scene nor her own danger. No, she stayed their unafraid and just cried for her dead beloved family, and was instead merely asked her "brother" (the NY in her brother's appearance) "why?, why?" even as it pounced on her to eat her or to... mate with her. Then, an unknown Claymore shown up and sliced its head open right above-before her eyes, with its blood and brain matter splattering onto her, and it didn't even phase her.

Strangely/unusually, Clare was actually not picked up/taken as the orphan girl to the Org and turned into a Claymore, no, instead she was left as an orphan, and the humans fearing that she may become a NY, had banished her from her own town (just like Raki was as well). So, our little Clare had been somehow amazingly able to live on her own as a "drifter" for an unknown amount of time. Until, she got captured by another NY, and used as its "toy", at least being physically abused if not possibly sexually abused too..., dragged from town to town by-with it.

But then the NY made the mistake to go to the town, that Teresa would be sent to, to kill the NYs there, and it was killed by Teresa, with its body split in half falling to each side of our Clare, with its blood splattering on Clare standing between its severed body. Again our little human Clare is completely unphased by it, not showing any fear what-so-ever during the whole engagement.

Clare was superhumanly perceptive, able to see the real Teresa for who she actually was, saw right through all of Teresa's defenses and saw the Teresa "naked", saw the pain and deadness inside Teresa, Clare saw the real Teresa, Teresa the human being, not Teresa the goddess, not Teresa the Monster, not Teresa the ruthlessly cold and mocking, no, she saw Teresa the human being, she saw Teresa as Teresa.

With a superhuman bravery Clare sought to give Teresa that which she wanted most, to "be human again". Clare saw Teresa as a human being, and treated her as a human being, trying to comfort the pain and deadness inside of Teresa, trying to give her back her human life, and so Clare clung to Teresa, with a stubbornness and determination and resolve to put naruto and ichigo to shame.

Well, our superhuman little Clare, somehow survived 3 kicks by the most powerful being ever in the entire Claymore manga world.

Then, Clare, despite being a little human child, impossibly was able to keep up with Teresa, earning even Teresa's amazement. Our little human child Clare had quite an endurance and stamina to keep up with Teresa, who Teresa herself noticed and commented about. Something was very special with this Clare. Maybe Clare later as a Claymore does waste tons of energy in what she does, as is constantly commented about her, but this situation with her as a human child shows that, that if Clare does indeed waste energy, than Clare must have an "Awakened Priscilla level of 'infinite' energy", allowing her to be so wasteful of her own energy. As human child Clare shows that she does have endurance and stamina, despite what others may say later about Clare when she's a Claymore.

Well, Teresa is getting sick of being followed/stalked (lol) by Clare, so she jumps down the cliff, except that Clare follows her, splatting once on a ledge and then on the "soft"-grassy ground, somehow not breaking a single bone in her body, let alone being dead, like she should be if she wasn't superhuman, but a normal human... and according to Teresa, the fall actually had zero effect on Clare's unconsciousness, it was actually her dehydration that caused her to go unconscious and not the falling off the cliff!

Also, Clare being dehydrated, further shows what amazing endurance and stamina Clare has, being not only able to keep up with Teresa, but to be able to keep up with Teresa without water (and food too, which I'll describe below), being extremely dehydrated, wow, Clare is amazing!

Well, Teresa takes Clare and tosses her into the water, to hydrate her, and wake her up from her unconsciousness, and for her to bathe the NY smell off of her, as Clare stunk with it (just as Clare too, later as a Claymore, would notice and use Raki having the stink of the NY on him as well), lol.

We see the physical abuse on her back that she endured by the 2nd NY having her as its "toy". we also learn that not only was Clare dehydrated without water, but without food as well, as Clare devours that big melon fruit/vegetable thing, lol.

Anyways, they set off together, Clare still amazingly keeping pace with Teresa, showing her endurance and stamina yet again. Now, Clare will fall off the cliff, but Teresa catches her just in time, or... would Clare have survived even this (seemingly greater) fall as well?... lol...

well, Teresa yanks Clare back up and slams her into the cliff ground hard, lol, yet Clare's superhumanly hard body again doesn't break. let's see, getting kicked 3 times by Teresa, falling off a cliff splatting twice, getting slammed into the ground by Teresa, and getting beaten by the NY, yet not a single bone of her body is broken! Is Clare, Wolverine's little lost kid sister? Is Clare's indestructable body, made out of adamantium, or is her body simply as hard as is Dauf's Awakened body? And Clare is still seemingly just a little human child, not even a Claymore yet, and yet she has a body hardness/toughness that rivals Awakened Dauf's!

Anyways, Clare would take a step back in horror at the bandits' "plans" for Teresa, showing that she knows/understands what they wanted to do with Teresa, which suggests that maybe both the NYs had interest in Clare as well, and she grossly learned about "mating" from one or both of the NYs...

but, as for seeing Rig's hand getting cut off, Clare is again unphased by it. Also, after Teresa's "gross yoma" body flashing sends them away. Teresa tells Clare to leave as well, as Teresa is a "Yoma monster", a Claymore, and so Clare too should get away from her, but Clare doesn't, because Clare sees Teresa not as Teresa the Claymore monster, but as Teresa the human being.

We than see again how perceptive and intelligent (and deceiving) Clare is.
As Teresa had thought Clare was asleep, when she went to confront Rig again (who had been following them), yet Clare must not have been actually asleep at all, as she would try to save Teresa from getting raped by Rig, by cracking a tree branch on Rig's head, sending blood running down his face as he was atop of Teresa ripping her top open.

Clare than displays more of her toughness, as she takes a punch from Rig that knocks her to the ground, and then his brutal stompings of her, before TEresa gets up and saves Clare, sending Rig running away with her famous "Freedom of choice" speech. Clare is slowly turning Teresa into a "human" again, hehe

our Clare, who has been mute this whole time (which I forgot to mention about), finally speaks, and reveals her superhuman perception of Teresa, which shocks Teresa and even causes her to cry, as for the first time, TEresa feels human again, as Clare is seeing and understanding the real Teresa, Teresa the human, the person, seeing her pain and deadness, seeing the one thng that TEresa wants most, to "be" human again, and Clare gave that to Teresa, and in finally realizing this, Teresa breaks down and cries in happiness. "A little girl taught me that tears can flow from even silver eyes".

anyways, fast forward past the "breaking of the ironclad rule" by Teresa to save Clare from the bandits/Rig, and about the earlier scene of Teresa having left Clare there, in that town (Rokut). Teresa did not have Clare's superhuman perception and intelligence, Teresa did not understand Clare at all, not at this point in time. Clare wanted Teresa, not to be "human".

During Teresa's battles with the 4 execution squad members, somehow, superhumanly Clare is able to follow the battle, despite the speed at which they were moving/fighting, yelling warnings to Teresa in time for Teresa to react! How in the world could a human child be able to see and yell a warning, at that speed? WOW! Clare can't be human...

And than we have the most amazing thing of all, Clare is able to actually sense the Yoki of Priscilla! As she would be able to later as a Claymore identify Priscilla from her yoki alone! And it wasn't simply because of how powerful Priscilla's yoki was, as the AOs had powerful yokis and so did the Destroyer as well. So, Clare clearly truly-actually had sensed Priscilla's exact yoki "signiture" as a seemingly human child... How could Clare have "Acute Yoki Sensing" (like Galatea does) as a mere human child, well before Clare even became a Claymore? Why was Clare attacked by two NYs, why was Clare not killed and eaten by the 2nd NY at least, if not the first NY as well?

WE than see more of Clare's resolve as she becomes the first, only, and last human being to seek becoming a Claymore, hehe. Again, enduring being alone, as she searched for a BC for an unknown amount of time.

Clare the Trainee Claymore:

This is where we see more of Clare's superhuman power. Despite seemingly being far younger and smaller than the other Trainees, she's made into a Claymore, and is a Trainee with them. So, thus Clare may not be actually weak from being 1/4 Yoma, but merely because she's too young and small to be a Trainee claymore. As can be seen with Clare dislocating her shoulder in the spar match against the other bigger/taller/older Trainee, who's jealous of Clare having Teresa's flesh in her, and probably getting "special treatment" too, compared to them... Jealousy, "What's so special about this little wench of a child, why did she get THEE TEresa's flesh inside her, why does Rubel care so much about her, etc etc etc". Needless to say, the older/bigger/taller Trainee wasn't happy, and thus challenged Clare to a spar match.

Clare too was determined to spar as well, as she had to prove to herself that she could one day get revenge on Priscilla, so Clare wasn't going to back down to this challenge to this test of her capabilities/potential.

however... Clare isn't strong enough to swing her sword, and dislocates her arm from her shoulder. Now, everyone thinks this is because Clare is only 1/4 Yom, but I'm arguing that it's because Clare is far too young and small to even be a Trainee Claymore yet! I mean, NO other Trainee seen, looks as young and small as Clare does! She's like 1/2 to 3/4 of their size! The only ones seen that have the same youth and smallness to Clare are: Riful and Miata! Does this mean that Clare was/is actually a rank 1 Claymore as Riful and Miata are/were?

Clare than amazes everyone, smashing her arm back into its shoulder socket against the wall, and... this is what is missed... Clare's ready to fight again! wait... if she fights again, isn't she just going to dislocate her shoulder again... that makes no sense... or did Clare just "get a Saiyan-like power up to herself", lol, and now she's more powerful, and able to now swing her sword without having her arm dislocated again, despite being in a fragile state too, having just been set back into its socket, lol.

Except Rubel shows up, to preserve his "PRECIOUS" (Rubel is secretly saying "My Precious" like Gollum does in LotR, lol) Clare (or maybe to keep secret Clare's true power... not wanting Trainee Clare to reveal her power, lol), and ends the spar match, that Clare was fully ready to continue on in.

We than see Clare's total dominance as the #1 Trainee in the final test/trial for them, the Trainees. Trainee Clare is extremely agile, like Miata and Noel !!!! Also, Trainee Clare is incredibly strong too, grabbing the same Trainee who had "bullied/sparred" with her, dragging her bottom across the ground, and than flings her across the room, with only one hand, smashing the bigger/taller/older Trainee hard into the wall on the other side of the room! what raw brute strength Clare has, damn !! And look at Trainee Clare's face with her foot on the older/bigger/taller Trainee... can you say a "matured Miata-like" face! SCARY!

well, with that display of raw brute strength, and Trainee Clare's display of Miata/Noel-like agility, I actually am considering that Trainee Clare might very well, have the same raw brute strength as Miata, to tear NYs apart with her bare hands. Except, sadly, Trainee Clare still uses her sword to kill the NY, lol.

Rubel is quite pleased with his "My Precious" Clare, hehe.

Clare as a ranked Claymore:

(prior to becoming a HA, as we know Clare's extremely powerful as a HA already)

Clare seems to be weak, a true rank 47 Claymore, before she becomes a HA, but I'm going to argue/propose against this.

Based on everything I've already mentioned, Clare being weak from ch 1 to her becoming a HA, is in direct contradiction.

So, how am I going to argue though that Clare is actually powerful from ch 1 to her becoming a HA?

Elena! that's how!

Elena was weaker than Clare, needing more and more yoki, to kill the NYs, on her missions, and this is why Elena hit 80% YR, and Awakened before Clare, despite Clare being a ranked Claymore for a longer time than Elena was, as Clare passed the Trainee test/trial, some amount of time before Elena would, being a ranked Claymore for an unknown amount of time, longer than Elena had!

Now, with Clare being the "rank 47", that meant Elena had the better rank than Clare, YET Clare was more powerful than Elena, as she didn't need as much yoki as Elena did to kill NYs.

Now, Clare being 1/4 Yoma, would also allow Clare to use a higher or greater release of yoki than any other Claymore and resist it far better than they could, as well. So, this too played a part in helping Clare. However, Clare never used 80% until her fatal strike to the SNY in the cathedral, which resulted in her too undergoing Awakening, yet she was able to resist it, and to lower her yoki, thanks to Raki's support of her, which would make her into a HA, instead of an Awakened. So, this shows that Clare was more powerful than Elena, and not merely able to use/resist more yoki than Elena could.

So, I argue that Clare was indeed far more powerful than a rank 47, even before she became a HA. While Clare might have seemed to be weak, she actually wasn't, as can be seen by comparing her to Clarice's own seen performance, and to Elena ("theoretically" as I just done).

Also, look at what Clare was able to do:

she was able to release an unknown amount of yoki to Heal her stomach back up. (maybe she could actually heal using far less yoki than is normally needed to heal, meaning she's much more powerful than we realize)

As well as learning/practicing Teresa's PYS/ELYSA in letting herself get punched in-through the stomach.

she could release enough yoki, to throw her sword and kill that winged fleeing NY, quite some distance away and up in the air.

While she she seemed to need to use some amount of yoki release, she was using it to cleave the NY's bodies in half, and not just merely to decapitate them, so while this might seem to make her weak to be needing the YR she used, we're forgetting that she's using it to cleave their bodies in half, which goes against her seeming to be weak that we at first felt of her.

Also, let's not forget the SNY himself. While he's not an AB (or maybe he actually was an AB in fact and not merely a SNY! Rubel you lying SOB!), he's certainly no ordinary NY anyways. I highly doubt any Claymore of weak ranking, could have done remotely as well as Clare did, even if they were at 80% YR, so this too suggests that Clare is far more powerful than the rank 47 we at first felt she was at prior to becoming a HA.

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does anyone want to comment on this? agree/disagree? I'd love to hear what people think about whether Clare was truly far more powerful than a rank 47, prior to becoming a HA, or if she was in fact a true rank 47 prior to becoming a HA.

[Khorr]

I don't think Clare was always powerful prior of becoming a HA. The awaking itself proves that. Would a real powerful person even go over the limit or tap into her yoki to kill the same yoma that pushed her over the edge the first time?

Being powerful is subjected to the moment the event take place. Was Clare before her HA; strong, fast and skilled to be consider "powerful"... powerful like she is now? I think not, all she has was the "protential to be powerful" which is not the same as being "powerful". Being powerful means having the power at ones disposal already.

Power have to be compared apple to apple, and orange to orange in this case. Lets compare Clare to somone that we know is truely powerful, Teresa for example.

As a child can Clare beat up other Claymore kids same age as her? I think she'll do about just as well or badly as any other kid, she seems average. Teresa on other hand I think may acturly get beat up by other kids, she seems like a softy as a child IMO.

As a Trainee, can Clare beat other trainees? I think she can beat some, namely the one's that deemed failed. Teresa on other hand can beat all the trainees at the same time with one arm tied behind her back I think.

As a normal Claymore prior to HA, can Clare beat other Claymores? Well, I think there is proof enough that she can't. I'm sure they have to spar against each other more then a few times before given their ranks and she must of lost a lot of sparing matches. Teresa can of course take on the top four without even using 10% of her yoki.

I just don't see how Clare can be consider "Powerful" when she totally show such poor and desperate action each time she fight some yoma before her HA. I mean a claymore with real power like Teresa would just one shot everything if given the same situation as Clare has been up to her HA.


I do have to add that Clare have more determination on all accounts then most characters in the story so far. She is super stubborn. Also as a fan, sometimes we can overread the tea leaves when Yagi may have really just done some stuff to make things seem "more exciting" but shouldn't be taken too seriously. I think such is the case as when Clare was yelling at Teresa to "Look out!".

[HegemonKhan]

1. that's assuming that the cathedral Yoma, was jsut a "weak" albiet SNY... what if he was actually an AB... now Clare would be powerful, compared to being weak.

2. about Clare saying "look out":

rank 3 Sophia, rank 4 Noel, and rank 4 Ophelia, all could not even see Irene's Quick Sword, yet little human Clare was able to follow all of their movements and sword swings in battle, shouting warnings to Teresa in enough time for Teresa to hear/heed the warning a respond/react! that's not a literary "tea leaf" to make it more exciting... that's suggesting there's something very suspicious about our "human" child Clare... and to further this, again our little "human" child Clare was also able to sense Priscilla's yoki, its "signature/identity", and not just its immense strength. and then there's little "human" child Clare's INDESTRUCTABLE body (especially her head/face, lol, as seen when she's a Claymore), and than the fact that she was "targetted" by two NYs, and at least one of them, was interested in her for some other reason, besides food...

I got a theory, that Yoma's seek compatitible hosts... "Raki, 'that boy', smells sooo delicious", and the BCs use NYs to find their next "candidates" for Claymores.

so, Clare is "special" and Raki too, as this can explain why Yomas, the BCs, Teresa, and Clare has taken interests in them (Clare and Raki).

3. I'm not saying that Clare was as powerful as she is now. But I do feel that her "potential" was always there.

but, what my agument is, is that Clare was far more powerful than a rank 47, now what rank exactly I'm not sure, but I feel/argue that Clare was indeed powerful (not Teresa level, lol, no one is not even Priscilla, lol), even prior/before becoming a HA.

let me try to explain:

Clare HERSELF (it does NOT come from Teresa's flesh!) has a massive "pool of power", however she's unable to harness/access/activate this massive "pool of power" readily/easily (though she seemed to be able to easily/readily as a Trainee... lol), but upon becoming a HA, it opened up the "floodgates" of her massive "pool of power", which we've seen her excellerate at a phenomoninal rate (except we've seen otehrs improve vastly rapidly as well, lol, meh).

4. about Clare's "weakness and desperation"

I think we must remember something... Clare was PERSONALLY trained by Rubel himself, "I [Rubel] taught you [Clare] everything that which you [Clare] know". This means not only combat (as can be seen frightening with Rubel catching Trainee Clare's sword without any effort), but also "I can be a noble woman one moment and a flirtatious prostitute the next", (um... ewww... Rubel teaching her this... lol), and let's not forget Clare's stealth ability, her "assassin's creed" into Rabona (early manga when she became a HA).

Also, we got Priscilla too who was "tutiliged" (can't spell, lol) by Rubel as well, and look at how deceptive Priscilla LEARNED to be!

so, let's look at Clare, because Clare too is extremely deceptive, so I'd say obviously Clare and Priscilla have learned to be just as deceptive as their BC, Rubel, is, grins.

so, Clare's "weakness and desperation" could very well be deception to throw off her enemies and allies alike, as we actually do see her do quite a few times, remaining secret, keeping her real power and abilities hidden, just like her beloved TEresa had done as well, wisely, as she too is doing, wisely.

[Khorr]

To truely know how powerful Clare herself can be, we must use a clare that's infused with a normal yoma instead of Teresa parts. There is no way that will happen however. Also being 1/4 yoma instead of 1/2 yoma makes her even weaker in her early stage of being a Claymore.

I agree Clare should been higher rank then #47 but was deliberately kept low by Rubel's doing. What would her true rank be though? I think I'll use the example I will give to try to gage.

Well I think Rubel expained pretty well the yoma at the Cathedral was not an AB but just a yoma that lived longer then most and gotten big. However for argument sake lets just say the thing was a weak AB. How high would the rank of Claymore have to be without going awaking to take down that yoma?

I think we can safely eliminate all the single digits, any one of them won't even break a sweat in taking him down.

For rank 10-19 we have Raftela #10, Undine #11, Veronica #13, Cynthia #14, Nike #15 Deneve #15, Eliza #17, and Lily #18. I think Undine and Veronica can take down that yoma no problem. We can't use Deneve because she's an HA, making her a single digits. Eliza and Lily was very rarely scine. The best example in the group would then be Cynthia and Nike. We seen them both going up against some real ABs so that yoma should be no problem for them.

Let skip to rank 30's cause there's no one notable in the 20's except for Helen. We can't use Helen for the same reason we can't use Deneve. For 30's its silm pickings too but we have Tabitha #31 at least to compare, the rest are only seen very briefly and are all dead. I think Tabitha would do alright against that yoma, maybe getting kocked around a little but ultimately, once she tapped in to her yoki that yoma is as good as dead and she wouldn't have to go over the edge.

Rank 40's we have Yuma #40 and Clarice #47. Now this is when things start getting intresting. I think Yuma would have a difficult time with the yoma but still able to defeat it once she use her yoki at say 70%. Clarice however I think have a slim chance because even if she uses her yoki, there is not much there.

Now remember Clare was already very wounded before from trying to protect the two humen before her final confrontation with the yoma at the cathedral. So from that, we will have to give more credit to Clare. Have she not been wounded and had her sword with her to fight the same yoma again in a 1v1 fight. I think she could defeat him with some effort. She would take some lickin and have to tap in to her yoma power to defeat him though. Remember, she had to tapped a lot of yoma power to cut the thing in half. I think she would do better or just as well as Yuma #40, but not as well as Tabitha #31, so her real rank would be maybe mid 30's. Is it "powerful"? Well not really, but it's a lot better then #47 for sure.

I still think the case where child Clare yelling "Look out" was done to dramatized the fight and to show how much she really cared for Teresa. It was also done because.. well, Clare is the main character and often times the author do strange things to make the main character's background seem special or more important. Basicly, she get the special treatment reserved only for main characters of the story. To implied otherwise would mean she's not human at all but a super human with yoma like power but not an ounce of yoma in her and that would really throw a rench in to the story. We can also safely state she had no yoma power as a child. If she had, Teresa would of sense it. Instead, she just felt Clare was strange and stubborn.

I also think, being an energetic human doesn't mean it translate to being a powerful AB. I mean look at Riful, I bet she was kind of lazy as a child. She seems like the kind that like to sleep late or stay home and read instead of going outside and do crazy stuff like Regalado.

It's only natural that her childhood is strange for the story. That doesn't mean she's "gifted" in any sense however. I mean, would you rather Yagi make her childhood "Normal"? That would be a pretty pointless and boring story I think. Clare is pretty much like Luke Skywalker whom pretty much sucked in his early career as a jedi but had a lot of luck and favor stacked for him compare to his father Anakin Skywalker (Darth Vader) whom was truely gifted but got defeated by the plot.

[HegemonKhan]

1. I have a theory that explains how being 1/4 Yoma actually makes a Claymore more powerful than being 2/4 Yoma, hehe.

(if interested in it, let me know)

2. Clare as a human could sense Yoki, so at least Clare's Yoki Sensing as a Claymore isn't from Teresa's flesh, so we don't know how much or if at all is TEresa's power vs Clare's own power.

I personally REFUSE to believe that Clare is merely awesome because of Teresa, as that's just so lame, boring, and unspirational, sighs

3. Yes, Rubel said it was a SNY, but could he not be lying? I man seriously that Yoma is much more like an AB than a SNY! And come on, if it's a SNY just from eating many humans, than we should be seeing SNYs all over the place, so no, I really do believe that he was indeed a AB, and that cruel lying SOB Rubel lied to Clare that she had merely killed a SNY, when she actually had killed an AB, hehe

4. who's able to kill an AB sololy?

ranks 1-5 (for almost all ABs, except the most powerful ABs)

now if this is a really weak AB, than probably ranks 6-13, but if its not than ranks 6-13 can't kill it sololy.

-though Clare didn't kill it entirely sololy, she did have help/support from Galk+Cid too.

-also, do note, that Clare was NOT releasing near 80% yoki, for the entire fight, save for her fatal strike, killing it, where she did use 80% YR, and thus began to Awaken, but she became a HA instead, as we know.

-also, do note, that in the first battle against it, Clare was still on the pills, though they might have been wearing off, but still...

-note that, even with the 2nd battle, Clare was still slightly under the pills as she still didn't have her full sensing ability back to normal levels, despite having her eyes returned to silver, as she checked the clergymen, hehe.

-though it is possible that this Yoma had very good Yoki Suppression as well, which would support it more likely being an AB, instead of a SNY, hehe.

so, if this SNY, was in fact an AB, than that would make Clare at least rank 13 in power, *grins*

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and actually that does seem to match up, with Clare being able to take on the male AB, who was likely near rank 10, maybe between rank 10 and rank 15 at most. As he was extremely powerful as not even HA rank 6 Miria could defeat him along with help from HA rank 15/19 Deneve, HA rank 22 Helen, and HA rank 47 Clare (well Clare's initial help anyways in the battle, hehe)

[Khorr]

3. Yes, Rubel said it was a SNY, but could he not be lying? I man seriously that Yoma is much more like an AB than a SNY! And come on, if it's a SNY just from eating many humans, than we should be seeing SNYs all over the place, so no, I really do believe that he was indeed a AB, and that cruel lying SOB Rubel lied to Clare that she had merely killed a SNY, when she actually had killed an AB, hehe

He could of, but I don't see any motives of why he would in this case. It's not like Clare was trying to avoid fighting ABs as part of her job. I don't believe Rubel is a pathological liar, infact I think he only lies when he want someone to do something or if there is an advantage in lying. What's the advantage of lying to Clare at that point?

If it really was an AB, the organization must of been really slacking to create a male AB that's so weak. It didn't have any cool or unique powers or features at all like all the other AB. The only thing it could do was shoot its claws out from its finger, but that is something most SNY can do anyway. I still stand by my case that even if it was an AB, somone of rank 30-40 can solo him because we can call him whatever we want but we can't change his power level.

[HegemonKhan]

Most ABs, actually don't do anything special, most ABs only have tentacle attacks, just like NYs do. Only the significant/special ABs, are shown doing other cool or dangerous stuff.

[faintsmile1992]

It's canon in the databook that the org wanted Clare to become closer to Raki, and pretty obvious that Rubel interfered with the Org's relationship. You've collected a lot of evidence that Clare deserved to be more than number 47, HK, and I've also suspected that the monster in Rabona Cathedral was an AB (though maybe a weak one), that Rubel knew in advance and that he intended for it to be a suicide mission for Clare.

Even as a child, kawaii Clare showed recklessness and manipulativeness...

[HegemonKhan]

I look at it (Rubel's motive) a bit differently:

Rubel wants Clare (or Clare+Priscilla+Destroyer, hehe) to be his own personal "Ultimate Weapon" or "One 'Woman' Army" of His. So, he sends her on "higher ranked" missions to push/force/accelerate her rise in power, and somehow he knows she'll not get killed, that she can handle the missions he gives her... or he can/might always be able to intervene in time to save Clare's life... like maybe telling Irene to go save Clare (and improve Clare) from Ophelia... and then Rubel, after Irene saves and enhances his precious Clare, he has Rafaela kill Irene, ... "Rubel's a very BAD man!"

So, Rubel dispises Raki initially, as he sees Raki doing the same thing to his precious Clare as he saw done to Teresa by Human Clare, WEAKENING, and he doesn't want his precious Clare to be weakened by this Raki kid-teen Human. However, obviously if this was the case, it didn't stay this way for very long, as Rubel could certainly have killed Raki at any time...

[faintsmile1992]

The problem is that Raki's presence made Clare strnger, according the the databook, which is written from the Org's point of view by Yagi-sama, and is ergo canon. It has also crossed my mind that Rubel may object to Clare's attraction to Raki as a creepy stepfather sort of thing, as the author does like his wierd sexual themes.

[HegemonKhan]

Well, if once Rubel realized that Raki was actually (more) beneficial than detrimental, that helps my theory.

Initially, Rubel: "Ah, no! This Raki is going to turn my Ultimate Weapon into a mushy human-like mother of N kids"

later, Rubel: "wait... Raki is actually helping my ultimate weapon along, making her more powerful... also... I can use Raki to get Clare to go on this mission... possibly even intending for this mission to force Clare's Awakening, and with Raki there, she'll resist it, creating my HA Clare warrior, and moving her closer to being my ultimate weapon!"

[faintsmile1992]

And Raki-chan is indeed daddy material, he has the masculine alpha traits women go for but hes also good natured, witty, kind, polite and respectful... what female wouldn't want him to worship her like he does Clare? And the fact I'm so like Clare only helps in my case lol.