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I wondered now why the hell Tower of God hasn't come back yet and I discovered that it was taken down from you-know-where and I lost two chapters already. I was careless.
Mangareader got us :O
Did you interpreted my "you-know-where" as "Mangareader"? Disappointed.
Anyway, I'm gonna read tomorrow and resume my promise with syx.
I can't even remember the last Nisekoi chapter I read. Seems like I have to catch up a lot of stuff. Kosaki <3.
Last edited by syx; August 08, 2014 at 01:07 PM.
Looks like Line Webtoon has released an version of there website better suited to PCs. Here's the link.
That's one problem solved.
EDIT: Not sure if it was Naver actually, but either way there is now a solution.
The main problem I would think would be that SIU would have to build up trust with whoever would step in. That's the biggest problem with writer/artist combos. The author needs to figure out how much of the story he wants to convey through the dialogue and how much he can use the artwork to tell. There would probably be an adjustment period with that.
Last edited by Jammin; August 11, 2014 at 09:38 AM.
Some FUG info and new Slayer Profile:
(credits to GoDai)
So... what are the actual theories around about the actual nature of the tower? So far the series has implied the tower itself is sentient and each flood in immensely huge in itself. Seeing how the tower seems to be made out of levels I get the impression it is sort of like a video game or something of the sort. Irregulars give the vibe of being the main characters in that everything in one way or another revolves around them. There is also the bit about headon letting rachel be the main character. The idea of it all being a video game is weird though. It would kinda explain why those within the towers are bound by its rules while irregulars, people from potentially another world, are not.
One thing I am not entirely sure I get is people wanting to go outside the tower. I guess it makes sense to think of the tower as a prison in a way but there is the issue that the tower in itself is massive. Each floor seems to be immensely big to begin with, I think it was said each floor was the size of a couple continents. In other words the tower itself is tens and tens of times bigger than our own earth, each floor can basically be seen as a planet of its own. How long would it take you to even look at the whole tower? Even in real life there are mere cities which would alone take weeks to fully get to see. Now, I guess most of the tower has been explored in a way but we are still talking about a massive place with innumerable species, cultures, races and each floor having its own flora and fauna.... It kinda seems like you should first be done with some section of the tower before heading outside, specially if the outside is for some reason immensely larger than the tower (although to me it kinda seems like the outside is our own world).
That said I am not entirely sure of what the structure of the tower is... I have read the bit about the inner tower and whatnot but overall I don't get quite get it yet....
Another thing is headon. Siu made the point that he is the one that chooses the regulars right? Does this make at least a tiny bit of sense? The tower has billions upon billions of people, the vast majority of whom are regulars. How in the holy hell is headon managing to choose these billions of people? It does not seem like there even is the time to do this. Obviously he does not have to do it at once but the situation still seems weird.
There aren't many well defined theories yet and the ones there are tend to be pretty much all over the place.
I think the best way to understand why people want to escape the tower is just to look at the structure of it. It's all about rules and restrictions, both by Zahard and the Guardians and there is nowhere were those can be escaped. Despite the fact that the very nature of it is to lure people pursuing a dream, in reality those who climb are little more than rats scurrying around in a maze which they can never leave.
The outer parts of the tower on each floor may be vast areas where people live but they can't leave. The only way out is to climb. To earn the right to even live in the middle tower someone needs to make it to the 20th floor. So if people are forced to earn every bit of freedom by climbing the tower and even that has limits making it so no one is ever really free.
Even if someone were to conquer the tower, like with the Zahard Empire, that person is little more than the head of a prison gang; because they're just as trapped as anybody.
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As for Headon he's a Guardain and Caretaker of the tower. You can think of Guardians like something between a god and a prison guard. He's connected to shinsoo, has near complete authority in the tower, and can teleport anywhere in the tower. So he's basically a god and I'd bet his connection to shinsoo is how he finds people capable of climbing.
But it's worth mentioning that even gods can die in ToG.
Last edited by Jammin; August 15, 2014 at 05:04 PM.
I may be wrong with this, but so far isn't there only a minority who aims to get out of the Tower? Other than Wolhaiksong members, I don't remember anyone who specifically tries to leave the Tower. And it's not like the Wolhaiksong members are being oppressed, not literally by the looks of it. I can't quite agree with the argument that the Tower is like a prison. We are also living in a world with rules, contracts and restrictions. Doesn't make me think I'm living in a prison. Of course the comparison is a bit weird, but I hope you get what I'm trying to say. The impression I got from Wolhaiksong is that they want to leave the Tower out of curiosity. In fact, Urek stated that the outside world is "massive and free more than millions of times", but I'm not sure what to make out of that sentence. If the outside world of ToG is anything like our world, then I don't think Urek's statement makes any sense.
Perhaps it is a matter of perception. Their conception of the world is not that of a planet but rather a tower. We know there is a ceiling with a fake sky on every floor which also suggests there are walls in every direction. In other words the world literally looks like a huge prison if you look at it in a certain way. There is no outer space, no stars, no natural source of light or anything really. The manga has hinted that the outer world is the real world as there is air and weapons from there are our own. If it really is our world our earth would be much smaller than the tower but there would be an endless sky, stars and perhaps more importantly a vast outer space. It wouldn't be a world controlled by guardians or whatever else goes on in the tower. Of course, that would mean chaos and whatever comes out of randomness which is perhaps a better alternative. Our world is not controlled by gods with whom we make contracts. It has its rules and whatnot but they were made by us at least even with all their imperfection. In turn within the tower you do live within the towers rules which can be oddly specific.
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Another point worth discussing is perhaps headon and rachel. We saw that headon have rachel a chance to advanced under the condition that she betrayed baam. She did betray him and baam ended up in the hands of fug. However rachel also ended up in the hands of fug, she was connected to the via headon. Fug even helped her climb and she seems to be working with them. Fug wanting rachel is a given considering her status as an irregular. More so, it seems like rachel was given emile which suggest rachel has also become or will become a living ignition weapon herself. So fug has been playing both irrregulars and making them strong.
I never particularly liked the fug related developments to be honest... the whole thing seems forced, its like they became too important out of nowhere. I wonder why headon would actually help fug at all. I guess he wants to change the tower? Or end zahards rule? Perhaps the point is that the ruler of the tower must change for it to grow rather than actually helping fug. Realistically speaking the entire tower political system will collapse once zahard is dead.... I wonder what happens then...
By the way, if you look it that way, even we live in a prison like world. We may have infinite space, but what worth is it if we can't leave the spot called earth due to other kind of "walls"? Well, we can now, but this wasn't the case ~50 years ago. And even now, we don't leave our planet, because we feel imprisoned, but because out of curiosity. That's what I'm trying to say.
Last edited by syx; August 25, 2014 at 09:25 AM.
Any idea/news if SIU or another manhwa author will visit the Frankfurt Book Fair this year again? Would be great if that happens.
See this as an unofficial invitation to meet there this time syx!
I can't even believe that it has been almost one year since the last Book Fair. Time sure flies. But I doubt SIU will be there this year, even though it would be actually a good move from Naver with their official english release stuff.
Anyway, if there is only one author of a series (Kishimoto doesn't count) I like at the Book Fair, you can be sure that I'm on board!