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[k-dom]

Has the author changed his mind midway through this series? As in, was he always intending to have Rachel betray Baam forcing him to join the side trying to revolutionize the hierarchy of the tower?

From the author comments and the quality of the chapters so far, we can tell without many doubts that SIU has a very good idea of his story so far and where he want to get it to.
If you haven't already, I strongly recomment you the reading of the Authors blog translation thread, it has many extra info on ToG
As for your other questions, we can only speculate so far.

[AluminumTough]

I was looking through this forum yesterday, I saw "Tower of God"...I had an odd feeling come over me-like this was something I should read. Once I started reading it I couldn't stop. I read straight through it and I am severally disappointed there isn't another two-hundred chapters to read. This isn't the most ground breaking universe ever created, however, the reader can clearly tell that the author has thought out the universe and the story...very interesting story.

I'd like to thank those in this thread that answered when ToG is released...It would be devastating to my heart if I didn't know this.

[Charlie]

I was looking through this forum yesterday, I saw "Tower of God"...I had an odd feeling come over me-like this was something I should read. Once I started reading it I couldn't stop. I read straight through it and I am severally disappointed there isn't another two-hundred chapters to read. This isn't the most ground breaking universe ever created, however, the reader can clearly tell that the author has thought out the universe and the story...very interesting story.

I'd like to thank those in this thread that answered when ToG is released...It would be devastating to my heart if I didn't know this.

Welcome to mh and the tower of god section. Glad to have ou on-board with us! See you around in the chapter discussion threads.

[murtas]

Okay, I've only done a once over of this series, and haven't immersed myself in the ToG world too much to iron out all the details and familiarize myself on all the names, but I have a few questions I would like some clarity on. Thanks in advance.

Has the author changed his mind midway through this series? As in, was he always intending to have Rachel betray Baam forcing him to join the side trying to revolutionize the hierarchy of the tower?

Knowing what we know now, if the first test administrator, Headon, was in cahoots with the 2nd floor test director and at least Yu Han Sung's intention was to have Baam hidden from the eyes of the Zahard, was Headon truly intending to have Baam pass? Yu Han Sung's intentions are in league with the one Princess trying to get the Prince on the throne, to sew chaos and disrupt the workings of the Tower. Yu Han Sung wants to keep an irregular, like Baam, with immense potential hidden from the Zahard to transition to the Prince on the throne, but if all this is true then why was Headon's test so difficult? He couldn't have possibly known Yuri would not only show up but also lend Baam her weapon?

Was Headon's deal with Rachel just to have her play the loyal part until the betrayal, so it forces Baam down the path Headon and Yu Han Sung want?

Headon supplied the giant Red spear fighter to ensure that Rachel would continue passing and eventually meet up with Baam with the help of Yu Han Sung who put the two teams in the same test. But Yu Han Sung even if he supplied the red haired Guide I can't quite understand what exactly happened in the Crown game. The Guide was in league with Rachel, but did Yu Han Sung know for certain that the Guide would be able to get past Androssi and threaten Rachel forcing Baam to get off the throne and protect Rachel? The Guide seemed to be having an awfully tough time getting past Androssi, and Androssi was part of the team set up by Yu Han Sung. So if the director wanted Baam to be forced into protecting Rachel why did she give Rachel such a powerful partner to protect her in Androssi?

Was the Shinsoo explosion from Baam that injured the Guide just an oversight in all of their calculations, and they didn't expect such things from Baam?

What is the difference between the Walhaiksong and the group trying to appoint the Prince? They are both against the current ruling, and even have Princesses backing both sides? Both don't care about using the strength of Irregulars to upset the balance of power either.

I remember the author seeing at the end of season 1, that at the hands of the TOG season 1 sucess he had second thoughts to follow his original plan (which was rachel betraying baam and the upcoming plot.), but then he went through with his original plan, because he wanted to be faithfull to himself and how he envisioned TOG.


Surely i'm glad he plans the series so much before hand, thats why the plot is so good and the setting so detailed.
That is revealed in the overall quality of the series, that and he doesn't break into the pressure of popular demand.

[mup]

i have a questions are we safe from viz i dont want to see tower of god being torn down from the internet just because they are not making money off it i read that viz ask mangastream to take down the shonen three so are we safe

[Jammin]

i have a questions are we safe from viz i dont want to see tower of god being torn down from the internet just because they are not making money of it i read that viz ask mangastream to take down the shonen three so are we safe

Short answer, "your safe".

Long answer, I'm fairly sure ToG and most manhwa aren't licensed outside of Korea, as long as nobody paid for the license nobody has the authority to request it be pulled. Though even if the webcomic creators could sell the rights I'm not sure they would want to, Naver could just throw up an English version of the site and offer an official reader for the scanlators. I think most groups would happily use that and Naver and to creators would get the money from adds and such.

That's the great thing about webcomics they don't need distributors like Shueisha and Viz because the internet allows them to reach the world just as easily as those publishers can.

[k-dom]

Hehe we have many manhwa licenced in France (Well many may be a big word) but so far I don't think it concerns coloured web comics. But the breaker is published for sure.
The policy of daum and naver seems to be different since daum printed chapters are not free while naver ones still are. But I agree we don't have to worry too much yet.

[Jammin]

Print comic are a whole other matter.

But with Webcomics selling the distribution rights just doesn't make sense. Mainly because when the publisher they sold it to(lets say Viz as an example) tries to distribute it they would do so online, which would mean they would be competing with Naver; even inside Korea. That doesn't work for anybody.

It's one of the big reasons there hasn't been a huge online push for manga, because if they did that Japanese people would be able to access it to and it could potentially undercut the original publisher Shueisha. The best method would probably be for Shueisha themselves to distribute it worldwide but they can't because they already sold the distribution rights to companies like Viz; so they can't sell their products in other countries without getting sued into oblivion. All this is true of printed manhwa too.

[k-dom]

I'm not sure i understands you. Successful web comics like breaker and noblesse are printed in the end. Like successful comic blogs in France are printed too. And paper manga are digitalized so that you can read them online.
Also Shueisha owns part of Viz so I don't think it's a problem for them to be concurrent. And while there is a different language english won't read naver and coreans won't read the english site so I don't see why they are concurrent in a first place

[Jammin]

I'm not sure i understands you. Successful web comics like breaker and noblesse are printed in the end. Like successful comic blogs in France are printed too. And paper manga are digitalized so that you can read them online.

Webcomics can be printed in volume form but it's somewhat rare. Mainly because those are geared as collectables rather than a medium in for first time readers to experience the story. I mean, waiting for the collected volume doesn't make sense if it was available online for free. Which is why they may or may not be printed in the end depending on popularity.

As for digitized comics, their is a reason they were always priced higher than is reasonable or are digitized with a delay. It was to give the digital comics a competitive disadvantage so they don't have to worry about it sapping any customers from Suiesha and it's print distribution partners.

"Shounen Jump Alpha" for example is the biggest attempt at legitimate digital publishing, it's priced very reasonably too, but it still has only 6 series and a 2 week delay.

Also Shueisha owns part of Viz so I don't think it's a problem for them to be concurrent. And while there is a different language english won't read naver and coreans won't read the english site so I don't see why they are concurrent in a first place

Viz Media has a weird ownership structure, it's jointly owned by Shueisha and Shogakukan, and has an odd history with it's owners; with both of them having a history of licensing series to Viz's competitors. So it's more complicated than you might think.

I'm not really sure what would happen if things went the other way and Shueisha or Shogakukan got undercut by Viz but I'm quite certain it wouldn't be pretty.

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Your right in that Korea wouldn't be a huge issue. The main risk would be losing english speakers but, outside of Korea, do you think more people would be likely to read the Korean version or the English version? English is the more common language. I can't imagine Naver, which is like the Korean Google, would be willing to let that profit go, when all they need to claim it is put up an English version of the site(which is not hard).

[naruto-niichan]

For all the ToG fans, don't forget to check out the new Tower of God Awards!

I will happily welcome you there

[Kaiten]

i have a questions are we safe from viz i dont want to see tower of god being torn down from the internet just because they are not making money off it i read that viz ask mangastream to take down the shonen three so are we safe

Don't forget that Tower of God and all web comics are posted for free in Korean, they are not intended to make a lot of money, but to promote Naver's website. From what I understand they do not mind if their comics are translated and distributed for free as long as a wait period is respected (24 hours, iirc) and a link to the original web comic is provided.

[scav]

caught up from chapter 78 to chapter 94 in one go. And that ToG part 2 is really good

[shaheer]

welcome back to the forum as a regular bro
so what do you think caused Baams paradigm shift apart from that utter betrayal?
i wager yu han sung and Hywa (whatever her name is) works for Fug and thus enacted this drama. during the 5 yr period Hywa ryung (what ever the sp is) fed him with negative emotions and took him to the FUG boss who trained him or sth.
Ofcourse Headon has to fit in the story some how(as it was his plan initially), but cant figure his role in making Baam into what he is

[naruto-niichan]

caught up from chapter 78 to chapter 94 in one go. And that ToG part 2 is really good

I hope you at least voted in the ToG awards dude?

welcome back to the forum as a regular bro
so what do you think caused Baams paradigm shift apart from that utter betrayal?
i wager yu han sung and Hywa (whatever her name is) works for Fug and thus enacted this drama. during the 5 yr period Hywa ryung (what ever the sp is) fed him with negative emotions and took him to the FUG boss who trained him or sth.
Ofcourse Headon has to fit in the story some how(as it was his plan initially), but cant figure his role in making Baam into what he is

hmm who knows, I doubt Yu Han Sung had a big part in it. It's unlikely that he could travel with them and I'm not sure why Hwa Ryung should feed him with negative emotions. Only reason I can imagine besides the betrayel is that he needs to move secretly and thus was told to not get too close to any other climbers. He seems to mistrust everyone at this point of time so I think that's what really matters, I think and hope he will be back to his old self sooner or later.