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    Manga Censorship Regulation in Tokyo

    Since Tokyo government passed the manga sensorship regulation, so I want to know how others think about this issue.

    Also, 10 publishers (including Kadokawa, Shueisha, Koudansha, and Shogakukan) announced they are going to boycott upcoming Anime Fair 2011.

    Library War (Toshokan Sensou) is not a fiction story, anymore.
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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk

    The Mayor once called the people to physically attack the Prime Minister because he wasn't nationalistic enough. I don't think he is able to see reason.

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk

    Well, I think main problem for the bill is it didn't specifide enough for what is a limit in shonen manga, like whether kiss or bathing scene of female character is allowed in series.

    Bill also not only meant to decrease sexual assaults on teenagers, it also targets on youth violence. Since Jump mainly has action series, government might step in and reduce battle/action scenes.

    Plus, the publishers which going to boycott Anime Fair are: Akita Shoten, Kadokawa Shoten, Koudansha, Shueisha, Shogakukan, Shounen Gahousha, Shinchousha, Hakushensha, Futabasha, and LEED.

    Does anyone know who have more power, PTA/human rights organiztions or those publishers?

    Quote Originally Posted by StrangerAtaru View Post
    From how it sounds, the Tokyo mayor is rather old fashion and just never understands manga/anime no matter how much everyone, from the industry to even the Prime Minister, tells him otherwise. Sometimes it's just a matter of someone who doesn't get it trying to force it on others...
    I'm not sure other people know about this; Ishihara Shintarou, Tokyo mayor, is also a novelist before becoming a politician.
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    Re: Manga Censorship Regulation in Tokyo

    At the fear of angering all of you guys, to a certain extent I think the law is headed in the right direction for japan. Too much of their anime/manga celebrates the perverse involving young underaged girls and I believe that it really could be harmful to the youth.

    Now correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the law just stating that materials they deem harmful will be rated 18+. That's what I understand? The article seemed to imply those insanely ecchi manga like to love ru could legally be sold to minors but now they will have to be 18+ ero manga, which, excuse me for sounding insane, makes perfect sense.

    Now I don't know if the weekly young jump that Gantz prints in is sold to kids despite being a Seinen magazine or not but if they would get that undercontrol and sold it to people 16/17+ then I think it would be better for their culture. It's not like it's not like that in America. Dragonball manga was banned from Walmarts and other stores the seconded it was found out that it contained nudity in it and that's a shonen series.

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    I agree with you on government intervention on sensorship of manga. Some series are unapropriate for teenagers.

    However, the main problem is the statements are too broad; it didn't show how far mangakas can go, like kiss and/or bathing scene of female characters are accpetable. This regulation not only applicable for seinen mangas, but also it is applicable for shonen mangas, too. The statement can be analysed differently depends on person. For example, if certain politicians don't like One Piece, Naruto, or Conan, they can force it to change or end it by giving excuses under ragulations.

    Furthermore, this bill is not effective on live-adaptation. That means manga/animation are bad for teenagers, but AV is okay for them. It only sounds like Tokyo government just making this law because they don't like animation/manga.

    In conclusion, I'm about half and half on this issue. I think the bill need more specific details on maximum level of sensorship; and they should also work regulation for teens on live-adaptation, if they do care about health of youths.

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    Tokyo Governor Ishihara is a hypocrite.

    He wrote a book with rape in it (maybe child rape too).

    His rape novel isn't covered by the law, only anime and manga which he is on a jihad against.

    He considers being gay or having gay characters something that could damage children and families.

    In other words no more yuri or yaoi gets printed because of that uptight asshole.

    All crime can cause an AO rating....name one good shounen series where there isn't any death or killing? Sarcasm about Naruto and Bleach aside there IS killing and death.


    This is so broad and insane anything can be banned.

    One publisher refuses to print or reprint printed manga that shows school uniforms.

    Not for hentai purposes...just in the setting.

    This law is the japanese version of the american comic books code.





    They want to prevent child abuse by caving into the demands of retarded countries with far higher rape statistics than japan.

    Maybe Ishihara will write to Manson in prison and ask for advice on how to raise a proper family.

    Or use necromancy to contact the spirit of jeffrey dahmer so he can start a healthier diet.

    It's insane and cannot end well.
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    Re: Manga Censorship Regulation in Tokyo

    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Rain View Post
    At the fear of angering all of you guys, to a certain extent I think the law is headed in the right direction for japan. Too much of their anime/manga celebrates the perverse involving young underaged girls and I believe that it really could be harmful to the youth.
    If it is harmful to youth naturally you'd keep it away from them. Truth is we don't know. The Japanese government is pulling this shit out of their ass. I'd prefer it if they at least aspired to take some manner of evidence based approach. To be honest I doubt that underaged manga girls can 'harm' youth, in the same way I doubt violence and fanservice and all the rest can harm youth. Exactly what sort of harm do you imagine these images will be doing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Rain View Post
    Now correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the law just stating that materials they deem harmful will be rated 18+. That's what I understand? The article seemed to imply those insanely ecchi manga like to love ru could legally be sold to minors but now they will have to be 18+ ero manga, which, excuse me for sounding insane, makes perfect sense.

    Now I don't know if the weekly young jump that Gantz prints in is sold to kids despite being a Seinen magazine or not but if they would get that undercontrol and sold it to people 16/17+ then I think it would be better for their culture. It's not like it's not like that in America. Dragonball manga was banned from Walmarts and other stores the seconded it was found out that it contained nudity in it and that's a shonen series.
    The fear I have with this is that these companies won't try to change their standards. Rather than young jump (for example) changing it's target audience, they may just decide to censor new releases instead. They may have to drop or heavily alter ongoing series.

    Lol just curious but why would stronger regulations on Japan's manga industry improve their culture?

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    I'm curious, is there any specific scientific evidence that support manga/animation encouraged youths to commit both sexual and physical assaults?
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    Negative it's about some guy going crazy and murdering someone and the media blames his manga addiction not his mental illness.

    Like some shut in america if a shutin whos parents are in the NRA takes a gun to school and starts capping people it's "the violent video game industries fault."

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    Re: Manga Censorship Regulation in Tokyo

    Quote Originally Posted by kanamechidori View Post
    Tokyo Governor Ishihara is a hypocrite.

    He wrote a book with rape in it (maybe child rape too).
    He's only a hypocrite if he knows that books and TV (which also wasn't targetted) are just as harmful as manga/anime. As it stands he just pulled all of that 'harmful to youth' shit out of his ass, so he's closer to a bastard than a hypocrite.

    From what I've heard he is against gay people and this ban does seem to be a stepping stone towards further discrimination, but I don't think we're quite there yet.

    Apparently BDSM is banned as well, interestingly. I was not aware it counted as 'illegal sexual activity' in Japan. I wonder if there are laws against it where I live... it seems to me that consensual BDSM is fine in real life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kanamechidori View Post
    Negative it's about some guy going crazy and murdering someone and the media blames his manga addiction not his mental illness.

    Like some shut in america if a shutin whos parents are in the NRA takes a gun to school and starts capping people it's "the violent video game industries fault."
    so, that means there is abosolutely no scientific evidence?

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    Re: Manga Censorship Regulation in Tokyo

    Quote Originally Posted by Negative Syndicate View Post
    so, that means there is abosolutely no scientific evidence?
    I heard there was only very weak evidence that videogame violence was correlated with real life violence. While it's not quite the same, I think it's an indicator that they wouldn't have evidence for sexual content = sexual crime.

    We don't really know much about the determinants of sexual desire. We can't really say for sure what makes us gay or straight or bisexual, or whether we have a special interest in shoes or furries or rape. Even once we have a desire, that doesn't make us criminals. What the Japanese government is saying with this ban is that manga not only fosters a desire for rape, BDSM and pedophilia, but that it also creates an urge so impossible to control that it will cause young people to commit crimes in order to satisfy their dark need. It's also saying that once you're 18 you're instantly immune to rape porn.

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    Re: Manga Censorship Regulation in Tokyo

    4KIDS has taken over japan!

    Seriously need new people in the govenment because the current guys are people who have grudges over anime and are just abusing their power for personal opionons. You don't take a culture away from your people.

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    I don't understand... Japan is banning loli porn only or shots or scenes?

    seems ok to me... I really don't like or even want to glimpse loli, god damn it is a child for god sake.
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    Re: Manga Censorship Regulation in Tokyo

    Ishihara seems to be a master of the slippery slope.

    He'll probably try to get the PTA b**hes to have gay characters declared harmful.

    Like a gay girl or guy in a series gets it a AO rating.

    Gays freak the moral guardians the **** out.



    Elitefox: Anything harmful to the development of youth is banned.

    Anything from Rei in evangelion to the pill popping and bicycle gangs in akira could qualify.

    Some people like Agnes Chan are trying to ban swimsuits and school uniforms from manga altogether.

    One publisher refuses to publish manga or reprint manga with school uniforms.



    This is more than a "make lolicon illegal" law. It's a "make fictional crime or things that suggest fictional crime...or even displaying fictional pre 18s NONSEXUALLY illegal law."

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