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    Re: Why do Girls Prefer Shounen to Shoujo?

    Quote Originally Posted by scav View Post
    anyways i'm not a girl but i'll give my opinion. I think it's the "plot". Shounen plot are way deeper than shoujo plot.Most of Shoujo are always the same ( one girl, one guy, a school, and Romance). I like romance, but a good story need something else in addition to the romance.
    The other point is the art, there is no originality: always sparkling eyes ( well nowadays we even see sparkling Vampires )
    I'm just curious, what is your definition of "deep"? The tone of the story doesn't always determine the quality of the manga: a story could try to be thought provoking but falls flat, while a fun and light-hearted tale could be executed wonderfully. I also want to point out that there are a lot of derivative shounen just as there are a lot of derivative shoujo- you just have to dig deep to find the gems.

    I do agree with you about the art though. I wish there was more variety to the character designs.

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    Re: Why do Girls Prefer Shounen to Shoujo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Asarii View Post
    I do agree with you about the art though. I wish there was more variety to the character designs.
    The shoujo artstyles are almost invariable. There's only 4-5 types of shoujo artstyle and the guys always look the same because of their bishounen appearance.

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    Re: Why do Girls Prefer Shounen to Shoujo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Asarii View Post
    I'm just curious, what is your definition of "deep"? The tone of the story doesn't always determine the quality of the manga: a story could try to be thought provoking but falls flat, while a fun and light-hearted tale could be executed wonderfully. I also want to point out that there are a lot of derivative shounen just as there are a lot of derivative shoujo- you just have to dig deep to find the gems.

    I do agree with you about the art though. I wish there was more variety to the character designs.
    well when i say deep, i mean when the plot ain't just stuff like : "how will i put a love letter in his locker". It's true that a "fun and light hearted" manga can be enjoyable but those kind of manga rarely make it to the top of your favorite manga list. Also try to pick randomly 10 shoujo, u'll find that the majority of them have similar plot ( A meet B the romance begin or A love B, B don't know yet and here we go) and similar background ( school girls). the shoujo gender itself doesn't offer much possibility for a plot completely original and astounding so at the end it's just a repetition, when you open a shoujo you already know what you'll find in it.
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    Re: Why do Girls Prefer Shounen to Shoujo?

    Quote Originally Posted by scav View Post
    well when i say deep, i mean when the plot ain't just stuff like : "how will i put a love letter in his locker". It's true that a "fun and light hearted" manga can be enjoyable but those kind of manga rarely make it to the top of your favorite manga list. Also try to pick randomly 10 shoujo, u'll find that the majority of them have similar plot ( A meet B the romance begin or A love B, B don't know yet and here we go) and similar background ( school girls). the shoujo gender itself doesn't offer much possibility for a plot completely original and astounding so at the end it's just a repetition, when you open a shoujo you already know what you'll find in it.
    There's some shoujo who aren't school romances, but I noticed that many shoujo have the same plot over and over, which is the reason why it's targeted to a very niche audience (aka teenage girls) while shounen has more variety and expands the horizon to a wider target audience.

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    Re: Why do Girls Prefer Shounen to Shoujo?

    Quote Originally Posted by scav View Post
    well when i say deep, i mean when the plot ain't just stuff like : "how will i put a love letter in his locker". It's true that a "fun and light hearted" manga can be enjoyable but those kind of manga rarely make it to the top of your favorite manga list. Also try to pick randomly 10 shoujo, u'll find that the majority of them have similar plot ( A meet B the romance begin or A love B, B don't know yet and here we go) and similar background ( school girls). the shoujo gender itself doesn't offer much possibility for a plot completely original and astounding so at the end it's just a repetition, when you open a shoujo you already know what you'll find in it.
    Now that you mention it, I wonder if there's any shoujo that doesn't revolve around romance. Kimi ni Todoke is one of the rare gems I was thinking of, but it's still based on relationships. Having a love story as a sub-plot isn't a bad thing though too much love-centered manga can be overwhelming.

    In my opinion, old school shoujo (e.g. Candy Candy) had much more to offer than the series in publication today.

    Quote Originally Posted by MisaoFan View Post
    There's some shoujo who aren't school romances, but I noticed that many shoujo have the same plot over and over, which is the reason why it's targeted to a very niche audience (aka teenage girls) while shounen has more variety and expands the horizon to a wider target audience.
    Yeah, shonen tends to be more varied in their motif: there's anything from Good Ending to Death Note.

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    Re: Why do Girls Prefer Shounen to Shoujo?

    I think the reason why it's harder to find a shoujo that doesn't have a major romance is because shonen is just more popular. There isn't a shoujo equivalent to Weekly Jump, or any of the weekly manga magazines for that matter, and those magazines have a weekly circulation of millions. Shonen has long been the most popular manga demographic (of course, if someone wants to correct me, be my guest), so its going to have the most variety as well. There is just that much more competition, so having an unusual topic is preferred.

    At the same time, I don't think the prominence of romance in shoujo manga is a bad thing. Shonen manga often have a lot of bond-building between characters, and many times shonen manga will focus on the bromances of those characters. They aren't entirely dissimilar from the romance, in my opinion.

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    Re: Why do Girls Prefer Shounen to Shoujo?

    Quote Originally Posted by faintsmile1992 View Post
    Well here in the UK where most fans are females, most of the manga tankobon that are available commercially are shounen not shoujo titles, so shounen manga top the sales charts here with the exception of Fruits Basket. When more shoujo manga became available here the sales of shoujo manga went up though.
    I think this really depends where you go.
    If you get it from a book retailer like WHSMith or Waterstones, you are completely right, as apart from Vampire Knight, all I tend to see is Bleach, Death note and Naruto in those places.

    However if you go to a specialist "Otaku" (for want of a better word) shop, like Forbidden Planet, they seem to stock more shoujo to me.

    Although I have no idea if this is the case with other countries, I think in England it's more to do with the type of girls that read manga in the first place.

    I tend to find that the girls interested in romance stories (films etc...) tend to be interested in other things aimed at girls, and don't tend to read manga at all (infact looking back at high school most of the ones I knew wouldn't have dared enter a shop that specialises in that type of thing!).
    However, I tend to find the few girls I do know that read manga, not that I know many boys that do either, tend to have more varied taste in general and are happy to read manga/ play games/ watch films that are aimed at a male audience.

    But I think that's because manga is not a well known thing where I live, and I imagine this is quite different in somewhere where it is considered normal to read it.

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    Re: Why do Girls Prefer Shounen to Shoujo?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesem92 View Post
    I think this really depends where you go.
    If you get it from a book retailer like WHSMith or Waterstones, you are completely right, as apart from Vampire Knight, all I tend to see is Bleach, Death note and Naruto in those places.

    However if you go to a specialist "Otaku" (for want of a better word) shop, like Forbidden Planet, they seem to stock more shoujo to me.
    I'm sure most people get their first taste of printed manga from WHSmiths, Waterstones or formerly Borders than anywhere else. Many people who don't live in cities don't get to visit Forbidden Planet very often (I've never been so I can't comment on them) but I'm sure it isn't most people's gateway to otakuness.
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    Although I have no idea if this is the case with other countries, I think in England it's more to do with the type of girls that read manga in the first place.
    If peoples first experience with manga is the Holy Shounen Trinity and Death Note, they won't be aware of other manga that might appeal to them.
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    I tend to find that the girls interested in romance stories (films etc...) tend to be interested in other things aimed at girls, and don't tend to read manga at all (infact looking back at high school most of the ones I knew wouldn't have dared enter a shop that specialises in that type of thing!).
    Well I've heard on forums that people stand too long in Forbidden Planet and feel their virginity coming back.
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    However, I tend to find the few girls I do know that read manga, not that I know many boys that do either, tend to have more varied taste in general and are happy to read manga/ play games/ watch films that are aimed at a male audience.

    But I think that's because manga is not a well known thing where I live, and I imagine this is quite different in somewhere where it is considered normal to read it.
    Like Japan.

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    Re: Why do Girls Prefer Shounen to Shoujo?

    Quote Originally Posted by faintsmile1992 View Post
    Many people who don't live in cities don't get to visit Forbidden Planet very often (I've never been so I can't comment on them)
    You should visit (Since you'd be on the wrong forum if you didn't like manga), there are quite a few around the country, and there's always Travelling Man, which is a very similar chain.
    I live in Huddersfield, and have to go to Leeds to get to either, but it's a 15 minute train and about £3 fare. I'm sure most people wouldn't have much further to go to get to either of these.


    Quote Originally Posted by faintsmile1992 View Post
    If peoples first experience with manga is the Holy Shounen Trinity and Death Note, they won't be aware of other manga that might appeal to them.
    I've think you've hit the nail on the head there
    Shoujo just doesn't get as much coverage as Shounen, and I think a large portion of manga readers (especially the younger ones) get their interest from seeing an anime on Cartoon Network (or whichever channel shows anime these days) and they only ever have Shounen.
    ... Apart from the odd seinen on late at night, but I doubt they still do that.
    So it's more likely girls interested in shounen will pick up any manga at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by faintsmile1992 View Post
    Well I've heard on forums that people stand too long in Forbidden Planet and feel their virginity coming back.
    Luckily there was nobody around to see me smirk at my computer during my lunch break.
    And I have to stand right next to my girlfriend at all times, while she picks Vampire Knight or DN Angel, for protection!

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