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    Claymore Irene

    Character Names: Irene/Ilena

    Gender: Female

    Character Title: Irene/Ilena of the Quick Sword

    Character Type 1: Claymore

    Character Type 2: Offensive

    Era: Teresa's Era

    Rank: 2->3

    Status: AWOL living in a single cottage in her "crater Valley -> (presumably) Deceased

    Family:

    Home Town:

    Current Residence: Rabona Holy City

    Personality:

    Abilities: Quick Sword, good Yoki Suppression Ability, Yoki Focusing Ability, good Yoki Sensing Ability, able to "regenerate" back "weaker Human arms" (but can NOT Regenerate, can't Regenerate actual Claymore arms back),

    (discuss Ilena/Irene)
    Last edited by HegemonKhan; June 19, 2011 at 02:56 AM.
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    Re: Irene

    I'm not sure about irene, but Ilena - Flashsword Ilena, is my second favorite character next to yours truly ; Ophelia.
    (It could be a bad translation but what actually IS her f**kn name?, Ilena or Irene?)
    We never got to see whether or not Ilena (presumably her correct name, idk) really died at the hands of Rafaela ; What if Rafaela spared Ilena and she's cooped up in Toulohose, Rabona city with galatea or even more, what if she became an awakened being that was sent to pieta / the org / riful by isley? There aren't many plotholes in claymore, but the ones there are, are big ones indeed, although they made a point in the anime to indicate ilenas death the moment the new arm clare recieved THROBBED and PULSATED, And just maybe the authors didn't wish to show us a scene as pathetic as ilena begging for her life or just giving up, closing her eyes, and waiting to feel a cold sensation at the base of her throat. Either way, whether she's dead or alive, I'm sure if she is alive she grew back that arm.
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    Re: Irene

    Quote Originally Posted by OpheliasRazor View Post
    (It could be a bad translation but what actually IS her f**kn name?, Ilena or Irene?)
    The proper romanization of her name is Ilena - although Irene became popularized by most of the fanbase due to the fact most scanlation groups used Irene. Japanese pronunciation of Irene is approximately ih - RAE - nah (using English phonetics), so either form is technically correct, but for most English speakers, Ilena comes closer to the way it should be pronounced.

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    Re: Irene

    Quote Originally Posted by Falcor View Post
    The proper romanization of her name is Ilena - although Irene became popularized by most of the fanbase due to the fact most scanlation groups used Irene. Japanese pronunciation of Irene is approximately ih - RAE - nah (using English phonetics), so either form is technically correct, but for most English speakers, Ilena comes closer to the way it should be pronounced.
    ih- RAE - nah
    whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat, ive been saying her name wrong the entire time....

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    Re: Claymore 133 Spoiler Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Claymore1 View Post
    Irene is her name, but she was called Ilena in the anime.
    It's the other way around ,see episode 13 of Claymore anime - you can clearly hear Clare saying: "Irene". And I ahve first 10 volumes of manga, she is called Ilena in manga.
    Last edited by Brother Coa; December 03, 2012 at 05:58 PM.
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    Re: Claymore 133 Discussions/134 Predictions

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    It's the other way around ,see episode 13 of Claymore anime - you can clearly hear Clare saying: "Irene". And I ahve first 10 volumes of manga, she is called Ilena in manga.
    They call her Ilena in the anime. I have just recently watched the first 20 episodes of Claymore in the last month and she always refers to her as Ilena. I have heard her referred to as Irene in the manga too.

    In chapter 52 page 30 Clare says "Please Irene..." (asking her for help while fighting)
    Last edited by Claymore1; December 03, 2012 at 05:17 PM.

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    Re: Claymore 133 Discussions/134 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Claymore1 View Post
    They call her Ilena in the anime.
    At 12:35 you can claearly hear Clare saying Irene, not Ilena ( even the subtitle said that ).

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    I have have just recently watched the first 20 episodes of Claymore and she always refers to her as Ilena.
    Than you have clearly missed it here at 12:35 and here at 3:56 and 12:13 and here at 18:21 and finally here at 9:43.
    Ilena is called Irene in anime, you can clearly hear strong "R" when they manetion her name.

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    I have heard her referred to as Irene in the manga too.
    Not in manga, you can see that here, in mange volumes I have bought and have home It still stand "Ilena". You can see that here, here Clare said "Irene" while I have volume 10 at my home and she says "Ilene" there.

    Claymore has always have name problems, you can see that first several volumes were updated as official while around volume 8 they started updating translations done by private translators and they changed names to some things ( Ilena was now irene and Quick Sword was Slash Sword and now it's High Speed Sword ).
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    Re: Claymore 133 Discussions / 134 Predictions

    They call her Ilena in the ENGLISH anime. The funimation dub has her name spoken as Ilena and as Ilena in the character book that came with it.
    Last edited by Claymore1; December 03, 2012 at 05:53 PM.

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    Re: Claymore 133 Discussions / 134 Predictions

    English is something else, in original Japanese they called her Irene ( English stayed more loyal to manga names ).
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    Re: Claymore 133 Discussions / 134 Predictions

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    English is something else, in original Japanese they called her Irene ( English stayed more loyal to manga names ).
    I'm sorry, I just assumed you were talking about the English version of Claymore. However, I still have seen it written as Irene in the manga before,

    Irene:
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    Re: Claymore 133 Discussions / 134 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Coa View Post
    English is something else, in original Japanese they called her Irene ( English stayed more loyal to manga names ).
    I'm watching these clips and am still hearing "ih- RAE - nah " they're using all three syllables when they say her name, even though their doing it kinda quickly. :P

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    Re: Irene

    Irene is definitely the proper form. The name Irene which derived from a Greek word (just like Galatea and others, not some English modified version of it which is also rarely used) meaning "peace" doesn't even have an English Wikipedia page for a good reason, Anyway, all you have to do is check Japanese Wikipedia for Irene (there is a list of Irenes there. e.g. Irene Angelina). Yagi is just being consistent here.

    @Claymore1
    lol
    The picture you've shown comes from a 10sigh's scanlation, Ilene is only in Viz version.

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    Re: Irene

    You never saw me get killed by Rafaela.

    ---------- Post added at 10:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:29 PM ----------

    Hoping this will happen:
    Galarene <3

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    Re: Irene

    Quote Originally Posted by Claymore1 View Post
    I'm sorry, I just assumed you were talking about the English version of Claymore. However, I still have seen it written as Irene in the manga before,

    Irene:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goral View Post
    Irene is definitely the proper form. The name Irene which derived from a Greek word (just like Galatea and others, not some English modified version of it which is also rarely used) meaning "peace" doesn't even have an English Wikipedia page for a good reason, Anyway, all you have to do is check Japanese Wikipedia for Irene (there is a list of Irenes there. e.g. Irene Angelina). Yagi is just being consistent here.

    @Claymore1
    lol
    The picture you've shown comes from a 10sigh's scanlation, Ilene is only in Viz version.
    I just checked all my books (these ones:
    Spoiler show
    ) and they used Ilena which I thought matched up to the anime though I had heard and seen plenty of references online to her name also being Irene.

    @Claymore1 I just looked in my books at that very page and mine says Ilena. The wording is pretty much all different for every text on that page too compared to yours. I also checked where we first see her in the Teresa arc, and then later when Clare meets her after Ophelia. In all cases in my books they say Ilena. Interesting.

    But according to Falcor's pronunciation above, I suppose they really are pretty much the same name, I'd listen to the anime to see if the L was pronounced more like an R but I have my disks loaned out atm. Its hard for us Americans to see Irene and not pronounce it 'EYE-reen', but if it is infact pronounced 'ih-RAE-nah' or 'ee-REH-neh' than that is very close to Ilena. I always thought the english sounding Irene just didnt fit with the rest of the names and Ilena seemed to go much better and more elegant.
    T~Stew

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