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Translations: Bleach 600 (2)
i think suigetsu is the overall more skilled ninja and should win. Suigetsu is obviously stronger than regular chouji. Heck, suigetsu actually went toe to toe with darui, I would think a more regular ninja his age would get stomped by someone like that. In terms of size chouji does not have an edge either. Suigetsu's large water body actually stalled a biju and actually survived a biju bomb. I don't think chouji has enough skill to deal with suigetsu just yet even if he mastered his clans secret technique.
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blocked his punch. Two forces of the same size directly engaged and acted upon each other. Thus the resulting "blast" or "shock-wave" took place. We saw what that same attack did to a "normal sized" person. When Chouji attacked Asuma that only thing that happened was that Asuma got sent flying back. He didn't even break up into multiple pieces or have body parts missing or anything like that. A punch like that isn't going to do anything worth mentioning to someone whose body is similar of an ET body in terms of tanking physical attacks.
Chouji can't do his now infamous magical, random, deus-ex-machina jutsu that can apparently defeat anyone in the Narutoverse without enough goading. Honestly, I don't see him getting so riled up on a one-on-one match. No support from Shikamaru. No one to protect. No motivation. If he takes the pills that do the same effect, he's gonna die 'cause there's no one there to take him to Tsunade. In other words, due to the rules, he can't use those pills. Purely going from what the manga shows, Chouji ain't going into butterfly mode during his match with Suigetsu. That simple. He's without his ace. I'm surprised Chouji's even gotten this far. Without the necessary mindset, he ain't getting in that mode. So basically, that shouldn't even be taken into consideration at all during this one-one-one matches tournament.
Why would the punch do damage to Suigetsu's chakra/stamina? Suigetsu doesn't have to be fast in his liquid form when Chouji would have no real way to target him, especially as a giant. Not only that, but in liquid form, Suigetsu can simply sink into the cracks made by Chouji, avoiding any direct contact.
Last edited by Rikudou King; June 24, 2011 at 09:01 PM.
if you think chouji wins seriously you're just a magpie. Chouji needs an elemental or even a ninjutsu attack to win. Taijutsu wont do anything against someone who can just liquify his body.
Exactly. Being a pulp of water puddle is enough.. then Chouji can leave him be or drink him up with his fuuton jutsu xdOriginally Posted by DementedKirby
I'm not talking about doing any damage or harm to Suigetsu; all I'm saying that if his such pulp-puddle:Originally Posted by zerocooldx
<first and fourth panel>
it means for me Chouji's victory <and he can accomplish that with his brutal physical strength> To me its about Suigetsu's stamina: when he takes hit and is turned to water, he needs probably chakra/water to reform himself once again, like when he was hit by Raikage and his hands were torn off:
I think that he needs his chakra or water supply in his body to reform; once he doesn't have it, he is a puddle without strength to reform <in other words to me its not like he can reform and reform again>
Also, remember how often it was water which actually made stamina of Suigetsu good:
drinking water or:
being in some water containment <or like he was in Oro's lab>
The GM stomp itself and its probably some 6+ square meters. ME stating 10 meters from Shika is more then ok i think.
If the biju blast that is a chakra blast can do than a punch that hits with chakra can do that to. Makes sense to me. Also a hit with that force would trow Suigetsu in all directions separating pieces of him. Takes time to pull yourself back togeder and this gives time to Chouji to do more chakra based punches.
We saw Chouji punch Asuma with his chakra charged fist and the damage done was nothing like that of a Bijuu Blast. Asuma was still for the most part solid. So while being hit by it would turn Suigetsu into water, it wouldn't actually defeat Suigetsu.
Suigetsu only surved the Bijuu bomb because he used the lake to boost himself, without a lake Suigetsu is significantly weaker, and IMO weak enough that some Chuoji's hits could K.O suigetsu.
I already wrote how I see it - there's no need for me to explain it once more. In short: Suigetsu plus water near by < Hachibi's bijuu bomb; Suigetsu minus water near by < Chouji's butterfly mode punch <1/2/whatever>Originally Posted by zerocooldx
Its just a proof he isn't some kind of Tobi with his intangibility thingy - he's using chakra/water/whatever to reshape. <of course that said: we still don't know how much chakra is required for Tobi to perform intangibility>Originally Posted by zerocooldx
Yeah, Kishi every time will show outside of battle how Suigetsu drinks water because he isn't some kind of 10th-placed supporting cast of characters who was actually 'created' by editors. Going with how you think about Naruto manga you should just think: oh, well, Kishi is moron xDOriginally Posted by zerocooldx
This just shows that Suigetsu has limit to his stamina capacity, really low limit, whether coming from chakra or water. In stamina department he is weaker than Chouji, and I daresay: a lot, imo.Originally Posted by zerocooldx
Bold part: read once again what I wrote earlier - you imply that I wrote that Chouji will do a punch with similar power to the bijuu bomb. Yeah.Originally Posted by zerocooldx
The rest: there's already hakuthehedgehog from what I see, so : >
This was my probably one of my favorite quotes i have seen in a while. IMO, and just IMO, i think most people do need to eat and drink to continue properly function. IMO if Naruto doesn't get that Ramen before a fight, then Ten-Ten would stomp him. IMO of course.Originally Posted by juUnior
You can believe that Chouji can put Suigetsu into a similar state that the Hachibi did. But Asuma would absolutely love to disagree with you. As would the majority of the people posting here. What you think Suigetsu is going to run out of chakra or something after fully reforming? We saw Suigetsu go from a puddle of water into normal shape after the fight with Kumo and be completely fine. And there was even no water in that area to reform him. So if you think once Suigetsu gets into that state that he is finished. Then you are very wrong. So i'll repeat it again, good luck with convincing anyone who reads this manga with any type of decent insight of that happening.
Err do you belive Chouji would whant to kill his friends? Do you whant me to post you the link with Chouji hitting the GM statue with all he had? If that hit was in Asuma all the people around him would end up dead. The punch going in Asuma's direction was a less powerfull one and Chouji wanted that for obvious reasons.