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Translations: Bleach 595 (2)
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3 Lee did bring out a gate when fighting it did nothing oh yeah and he did no damage with Drunken fist ether nor could 5 gates break through Garra's sand shild when Kimmi could by tackling
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Lee's gates did nothing to Gaara as well and Kimmi's defence is better then Gaara's
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The only way Lee could conceivably win this is with Drunken Fist AND Five Gates, but we might as well not count Drunken Fist because he can't use it voluntarily. We're not allowed to infer any growth from the time skip because the discussion has to be based on feats, and frankly Lee hasn't done anything new. Cursed Seal 2 Kimimaro was greater than Gaara, Gaara was greater than Lee. I don't think Kimimaro is necessarily MORE durable than Gaara, but Lee will have a lot of trouble punching a porcupine of bone. Or reacting at all to Dance of the Seedling Fern. He has no way to handle an opponent hiding in an entire forest of spikes.
Lee could win this. He is way more powerful than Part 1, which we'll hopefully see in the future.
I know its a gabmle and kimmimaro is strong but I'll go with Lee here.
I'm leaning Kimimaro. It's possible that Lee's speed in Gates would be harder for Kimimaro to read, but at the same time Kimi's more than proven that his bones are practically indestructable. It would most likely bee a repeat of Lee's fight against Gaara, where even if Lee beats him by speed, he's just pummeling the outside of Kimi's armor. If Lee can't damage Kimimaro using Gates then he can't win, meanwhile Lee would be left dodging moves that could kill him with one hit. The damage Lee can do to Kimi is pretty much speculative, while we know Kimimaro can do great damage to Lee, and we know that when Lee uses Gates he leaves short opening which a ninja of Kimi's ability can take advantage of.
I have to say, I'm pretty amazed so many people are voting for Kimi. I brought up the fact that Kimi would beat a post-skip Lee in a fight during this war and people just descended on me like animals lol.
My vote goes to Kimi. I'm positive Lee cannot break his bones and if by some miracle he does, where ever he kicks he'll get stabbed.
Yes my main man Kimi takes this. I don't understand why people think the Gates will be the winning factor. Yeah, the Gates will definitely heavily boost Lee up, but what we saw of CS2 Kimi when he was fighting Gaara and Lee and he was only moving on his free will and not 100% healthy...yeah Kimi takes this.
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2 Gaara could not hurt him pre time skipp no one could hurt him pre time skip he is faster then Lee and better at Taijutsu then Lee
3 Lee turns on gates he just turns on pocupine qills and lee impales himself he beat Lee with out his curse seal as well
4 plus Kimmi was dying
I don't know if it would be such an easy win for Kimimaro. I mean Lee who was in such a battered condition whereby he couldn't even walk properly a few chapters back still managed to surprise a CS2 Kimimaro. Granted, there wasn't really any damage done but I would like to believe that a 100% Lee in part 2 has a stronger kick. Besides, even Gaara commented on Lee being "weaker"(in a sense) compared to the time when Lee fought Gaara.
Kimimaro's bone defense is great and all but Lee can possibly surprise him and hit before the bones can be formed to protect him. It's kinda hard for me to decide on this for now.
his kick is stronger no doubt but honestly it won't matter he won't be able to do enough damage plus the bones are already there he can't break the bones no matter what he does infact he won't be that much faster then Kimmi even with all the gates active and they won't let him win
he uses them he will die he won't do any damage to Kimmi and will be a sitting duck once the effect wears off
His bones are so extremely hard even if he gets surprised nothing would happen... maybe he would be send flying but thats it. That "surprise kick" you've shown us only tells me two things:
A) Even a clean hit to Kimimaro's neck did absolutely nothing.
B) SC2 Kimimaro thought its not even necessary to pay attention to Lee anymore.
This fight is actually very simple. We know base Lee has nothing on Kimimaro, so can 5 Gates Lee take out Kimimaro before he tears up his own body? Imho the answer is a clear no! We are talking about a guy here that can even pull out his spine and regrow it... even if by some miracle Lee could break a few bones, Kimimaro can simply regenerate and reinforce them.
Now some people might say "yeah but what about internal and brain damage??". Then ask yourself this: If Gaara can take a clean hit from the Extreme Lotus straight into his gut without taking any internal injuries or being knocked out while he's protected by nothing more then a thin layer of sand above his skin, why should Kimimaro?
Or even better: If Seven Gates Gai's Noon Tiger wasn't enough to knock out a guy like Kisame, who's simply exceptionally tough but doesn't have some indestructible skeleton, what hopes does Lee have with his Five Gates Extreme Lotus against Kimimaro, who's been said to be invulnerable to any physical attack?
I agree that Lee would have a hard time bypassing the bones which is why I say a surprise attack before the bone armor is used. However you have to consider the fact that Kimimaro would have a hard time landing an attack on Lee as well.
I think that you're underestimating the sand armor though. At the very least it was seen that minerals compressed by Gaara's chakra was hard enough to counter the thickest and strongest bone in Kimimaro's body. So the sand covering Gaara's body which is made from a stronger version of sand could very well be more durable.
Afternoon Tiger can be weakened by the Daikoudan that Kisame fired off as well. So it's not fair to say that Afternoon Tiger is weak when we have saw how powerful Morning Peacock can be.
I'am fairly certain that part with being slower coming from Lee is an mistranslation. If I remember right Lee was talking about himself and that he's slower then he used to, which was a reference to Gaara saving him from Kimimaro's tail strike.
Did Gaara have those minerals during his fight against Lee? If not then its irrelevant because its not changing the fact that Lee couldn't break trough Gaara's normal sand armor.Quote:
I realy doubt it because back then he had nothing more then the sand from the gourd on his back and it was nowhere stated that this sand is exceptionally hard.
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