Blood-C

[yukihime03]

Has anyone watched the eps 2?

I think it's slightly better than the first one but still, it still has the same pattern. Her school life at day then followed by fighting at night. If this still happens for eps 3, I'll be bored.

It gives off more mysterious feeling though. I have a feeling that the dog (which is more similar to a fox) she found represents something important. And I just realized that Tokizane's eyes are blue... >.< I was all fangirling when he looked at Saya and he almost touched her cheek. I'm really curious why Saya seemed so shocked and reached out her hands when he's gone. Suddenly I feel like a tragedy is starting before my eyes. o_O (and based on Tsubasa chronicles, I think Clamp is really good at writing tragedy) I wonder what will happen to them coz it seems like they will have a special relationship.
And Saya, oh, Saya. I'm starting to disliking her since she's so dense. A typical main-female character of a shoujo manga/anime. I can just when the twins kept hinting Itsuki's feeling in front of her and Itsuki is quite bold to answer the twins' hints yet Saya didn't even take the hints.

[phio_chan]

Has anyone watched the eps 2?

*raises hand*

I have to agree that it's boring, not less boring than the previous episode. The dog, just from its fur, we can tell that this dog would play some kind of role in the future. Fangirling, huh? To me, it's weird. For someone who doesn't even reply back Saya's greetings, for Tokizane to suddenly touch Saya's scar is just... what the-? It's too weird of a personality to me. Obviously he is interested, but Saya is also obviously dense. The twins... I don't know why, but I feel like they are kinda... annoying, being all repetitive and such. I guess I'm too negative? As in other CLAMP's works, twins would usually play some kind of role in the plot later on, so I'll satisfy myself with that possibility. The thing she seemed to be reaching would be that light she saw when she concentrated on the shrine... I think it would be some kind of trigger which would bring her power out of depth of herself. So far we only see that power manifested when Saya was in great danger.

Basically... No further plot here. Just another school day and another duty day. Nothing is really explained. We just know that Saya's mother died fighting a demon. Based on the preview, it looks like episode 3 will be more interesting as it would uncover Kisaragi's family secret. Now I wonder what that is. But, seriously, they have to start giving the anime some dynamics and twists or else it would get too boring. CLAMP is a master in love and tragedy, indeed, but CLAMP is a master of plot twist and brain wrecking too. I'm both excited and worried about that. I hope they can adjust the right amount of each of that elements into this anime so that it would turn great.

(My, why am I so negative? I guess I'm expecting too much from CLAMP and their first anime. )

[HegemonKhan]

I have the opposite opinion... I know now that this anime is going to be awesome !!!

first, I actually watched the entire intro... wow (it gives hope that this is going to be good, hehe)...

again... let me remind us, Blood+ started out the same way, for ~ 7 episodes Saya is killing chiropterans (albiet it also has more going on in these episodes than Blood C has thus far in its 2 episodes)

also, "slow starts", often mean epic awesomeness once you get past its "slow start", hehe

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my take on the plot:

1. right now, "whoever" is just testing the chiropteran blood on things, which mutates them into living chiropteran-like things. A statue, (though we see quite a chiropteran being killed by Saya next), and then a plant.

2. is the guy that Saya likes, her chevalier, her Haji, or... is he her antagonist... he did touch her cut... knowing how she had actually got it... does his knowing mean he's her ally or her enemy...

3. meh, dense Saya, she's raised to kill monsters, so she's got some catching up with understanding love and romantic stuff... that doesn't bother me, and sides as a guy I love that seeming innocence and shyness... so hawt, hehe

4. Also, I'm sure Saya actually does know the class rep/pres whatever likes her, but she's simply completely uninterested in him, lol.

[phio_chan]

I don't watch BLOOD+ so I can't say much about that. But you're right about slow starts sometimes can lead to awesomeness; that happened to me lately. So I hope BLOOD-C would come to that point as well. ^__^

my take on the plot:

1. right now, "whoever" is just testing the chiropteran blood on things, which mutates them into living chiropteran-like things. A statue, (though we see quite a chiropteran being killed by Saya next), and then a plant.

2. is the guy that Saya likes, her chevalier, her Haji, or... is he her antagonist... he did touch her cut... knowing how she had actually got it... does his knowing mean he's her ally or her enemy...

3. meh, dense Saya, she's raised to kill monsters, so she's got some catching up with understanding love and romantic stuff... that doesn't bother me, and sides as a guy I love that seeming innocence and shyness... so hawt, hehe

4. Also, I'm sure Saya actually does know the class rep/pres whatever likes her, but she's simply completely uninterested in him, lol.

1. Is that from BLOOD+? If so, I wouldn't be able to say anything about it. XD But considering that I do not know anything about it, maybe it's just some kind of demon possessing a statue and a plant? Although blood coming from a statue and a plant is just... strange.

2. Hmm, so you mean Tokizane is secretly watching over Saya? No idea so far. It doesn't look like her classmates are involved in any kind of action at the moment, but of course it is a subject to change. I tend to think that they would aid her later.

3. & 4. She's completely dense. I knew it. Judging from how she composed songs, how she blushes... I can just tell that she's that kind of clueless girl. Yet she is loved by many people because of that. XD

[HegemonKhan]

you should watch Blood+ !!!!!, I highly recommend it, as it's totally awesome, and most girls think Haji is way hawt.

it starts off with a "bang" hehe, that got me interested, blood and guts, lol. Berserk Saya (Rawr), *grins*

and then it's boring just like Blood C is now, but after ~ 7 episodes, it plot starts to open up and come out, and it gets so awesome, especially once the villian/antagonist is finally "released" (~episode 12 or 13), hehe

lots of girls really like Blood+, as there's lots of stuff for girls, there's actually not that much guy stuff in it, there's actually not that many battle scenes, compared to its 50 or 51 episodes.

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I have to disagree with Saya being dense, as I'm biased and a fan of hers, she's just pretending to be so, as her cover as a normal school girl. We see her trip and fall, which is obviously faked as seen from her battles. So, the same is probably true with love and romance, she knows the class rep/pres likes her and he's trying to subtly make his moves on her, she just doesn't have any interest in him, it's not that she doesn't know he likes her, she just could care less about him.

[destiny4ever]

Episode 2

- The OP is growing on me, I like it. And maybe it is sad to say this, but the op sequence has the Saya that I like, that red-eyed Saya that awakes my curiosity. Sorry Saya fans, but the Saya from the episode itself…well…I’m not too fond of her. She is...kind of flat as a character. She is a very good girl who adores her father and fight monsters. That’s it. That’s all we know about her so far. I really hope she has a dark side (a more to her than being a good girl) and I truly hope said dark side appears soon so Saya stops being such a boring character.

- About the fights, yes, the animation was good, but…I didn’t feel any emotion while watching those fights. I think the fights are lacking something…maybe is that emotional connection that turns fights from being simple actions of violence into actions used to protect and defend something that is dear and precious?

- The twins…I thought they were pretty cute. They helped to make the episode enjoyable.

- I’m not sold on this series yet. I will watch a couple of more eps before deciding to drop this series or keep watching it.

[phio_chan]

you should watch Blood+ !!!!!, I highly recommend it, as it's totally awesome, and most girls think Haji is way hawt.

Hmm, I will try it out when I have the time then. Thanks for the suggestion.

I have to disagree with Saya being dense, as I'm biased and a fan of hers, she's just pretending to be so, as her cover as a normal school girl. We see her trip and fall, which is obviously faked as seen from her battles. So, the same is probably true with love and romance, she knows the class rep/pres likes her and he's trying to subtly make his moves on her, she just doesn't have any interest in him, it's not that she doesn't know he likes her, she just could care less about him.

Um, remember the first episode, the very first part of it? We saw Saya sitting, concentrating. Then her father came in, talked to her about how much she could trip around, then tripped again after that. I would be able to take your theory if she only acted like that in front of her friends or at school, but I don't see why she should act like that too in front of her father if everything was fake.

Moreover, CLAMP likes to make such character, so it's no surprising for me.

...Sorry Saya fans, but the Saya from the episode itself…well…I’m not too fond of her. She is...kind of flat as a character. She is a very good girl who adores her father and fight monsters. That’s it. That’s all we know about her so far. I really hope she has a dark side (a more to her than being a good girl) and I truly hope said dark side appears soon so Saya stops being such a boring character.

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...I didn’t feel any emotion while watching those fights. I think the fights are lacking something…maybe is that emotional connection that turns fights from being simple actions of violence into actions used to protect and defend something that is dear and precious?

I agree with you about Saya's character and the battles. I even think that the story would somehow be more appealing if her character is completely dark and gloomy... But I'm looking forward to see more changes to her personality at latter episodes. As for the battles, I don't know either... Saya actually fought because she wanted to protect everyone, right? But somehow that feeling didn't come out during the battle. As if she only fought to win. The fact that her eyes turned red only on critical conditions still made me curious. I hope to see a better exploration of battle scenes at the next episode.

[yukihime03]

you should watch Blood+ !!!!!, I highly recommend it, as it's totally awesome, and most girls think Haji is way hawt.

He's right. Haji is a mysterious guy but that's his charm. Saya is charming too in her own way. I love the scenes when she cut her hand and her blood runs down the sword, covering it with blood. (since it's her blood that can kill the chiropterans). I kinda dislike the tragedy they went through though. It's just too.. sad for me to see the characters suffer like that. From the first eps, I know Blood+ will be a dark one, but for Blood-C, I know it will be dark not because of the story but CLAMP. They love to make complex story.

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I don't watch BLOOD+ so I can't say much about that. But you're right about slow starts sometimes can lead to awesomeness; that happened to me lately. So I hope BLOOD-C would come to that point as well. ^__^

Nope. It's from Blood-C.
Blood+'s chiropterans are shaped like... the usual monsters (?). I don't remember plants as monsters in Blood+.

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As for the battles, I don't know either... Saya actually fought because she wanted to protect everyone, right? But somehow that feeling didn't come out during the battle. As if she only fought to win. The fact that her eyes turned red only on critical conditions still made me curious. I hope to see a better exploration of battle scenes at the next episode.

Maybe it doesn't seem like she's protecting anyone coz she fights alone (the ones whom she protects are not around and not in apparent danger) and there's no monologue in her mind either... Usually when a hero/heroine fights to protect someone, at least they will say in their mind: "I'll protect ... (fill in the blank)!" But we don't hear it from Saya so that's why we might think that's she's fighting for the sake of the victory alone.

[HegemonKhan]

in Blood+ and Blood: the Last Vampire (and somewhat of the "monsters" so far in Blood C * ):

*Blood C = 1 chiropteran (beginning of episode 2), 1 "mud-statue mutant chiropteran" (episode 1), and 1 "plant/flower mutant chiropteran" (end of epsiode 2).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat

chiropteran = chiroptera = science word (Taxomony: Order) for bat

("King Paul Cried Out For Good Soup" = Kingdom Phylum Class Order Family Genus Species)

Bat ("Chiropteran") = Animalia (non-bacterii, nor fungii, nor virii), Chordata (has a backbone, spine, spinal cord), Mammalia (has breasts), Chiroptera (only truly flying mammal - bat), etc (Family), etc (Genus), and etc (Species).

Human = Animalia (non-bacterii, nor fungii, nor virii), Chordata (has a backbone, spine, spinal cord), Mammalia (has breasts), Primate (Great Apes and Monkeys), Hominidae (Great Apes: Humans only), Homo ("Man"), Homo sapiens ("Wise Man" - humans), Homo sapiens sapiens (Modern humans ~ 70,000 BC to 2011 AD)

so, the "monster" characters in Blood: The Last Vampire (Saya, 'won't spoil' - etc), Blood+ (Saya, 'won't spoil' - etc), and Blood C (Saya and 'coming soon') are **NOT** vampires, but literally batgirls or batmans, Human+Bat, Half Human Half Bat

[yukihime03]

in Blood+ and Blood: the Last Vampire (and somewhat of the "monsters" so far in Blood C * ):

*Blood C = 1 chiropteran (beginning of episode 2), 1 "mud-statue mutant chiropteran" (episode 1), and 1 "plant/flower mutant chiropteran" (end of epsiode 2).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat

chiropteran = chiroptera = science word (Taxomony: Order) for bat

("King Paul Cried Out For Good Soup" = Kingdom Phylum Class Order Family Genus Species)

Bat ("Chiropteran") = Animalia (non-bacterii, nor fungii, nor virii), Chordata (has a backbone, spine, spinal cord), Mammalia (has breasts), Chiroptera (only truly flying mammal - bat), etc (Family), etc (Genus), and etc (Species).

Human = Animalia (non-bacterii, nor fungii, nor virii), Chordata (has a backbone, spine, spinal cord), Mammalia (has breasts), Primate (Great Apes and Monkeys), Hominidae (Great Apes: Humans only), Homo ("Man"), Homo sapiens ("Wise Man" - humans), Homo sapiens sapiens (Modern humans ~ 70,000 BC to 2011 AD)

so, the "monster" characters in Blood: The Last Vampire (Saya, 'won't spoil' - etc), Blood+ (Saya, 'won't spoil' - etc), and Blood C (Saya and 'coming soon') are **NOT** vampires, but literally batgirls or batmans, Human+Bat, Half Human Half Bat

Wow... That's... a very... thorough explanation.

[phio_chan]

Maybe it doesn't seem like she's protecting anyone coz she fights alone (the ones whom she protects are not around and not in apparent danger) and there's no monologue in her mind either... Usually when a hero/heroine fights to protect someone, at least they will say in their mind: "I'll protect ... (fill in the blank)!" But we don't hear it from Saya so that's why we might think that's she's fighting for the sake of the victory alone.

Mm.. Maybe. Not necessarily as you said, but maybe it is so. She seems so heartless when fighting; no emotion (probably just pain). So maybe it made me think like she's fighting only to win. And only because she has to. But to think about it again, the fighting lack suspense, I suppose. The dynamic of a battle is the same everywhere: seem to win >> get beaten up so bad >> back on track and win. It is precisely like that, what Saya did. I think that is also why the fights feel so... empty.

I suppose I'm too fast to conclude this series based on two episodes only. Definitely looking forward to what will happen on the next episode. Hopefully it paid off the previous episodes. XD

[HegemonKhan]

now... a mutant train.... okay this is now becoming like Corpse Princess (Shikabane Hime), as it had a shikabane car lol, ... though I still await patiently, as I know this will get better... hopefully...

[destiny4ever]

Episode 3

I’m still not sold on this series…but I must say that I did like this episode better than the previous ones.

- I don’t know if I have mentioned it, but the OP song really rocks!!

- I’m not sure if this is going to take place in every single episode but I think ….Blood C’s formula is: High school events + Saya’s fighting a monster. I really hope that there is more to the formula of this series than just Saya going to High School and then fighting the weekly monster.

- It is really hard not to compare Blood C with Blood +, having said that, Saya’s Chemistry teacher reminds me of Julia from Blood + quite a bit. And I have the feeling there is more than meets the eye regarding that Chemistry teacher; she seems to be investigating something…

- The cute doggy with those marks appeared again in this episode…and I don’t think he is just a common dog.

- Saya’s dark side emerged during this episode and it made her a bit more interesting. I’m referring to the fact that she allowed for an innocent man to be killed. She didn’t try to save that hypnotized man (he seemed to be in some sort of trance); she waited for that pink monster to kill said man and then proceeded to kill the pink monster.

- As I said at the beginning of this post, I’m not sold on this series yet…but I’m willing to watch another episode since ep 3 was slightly better than the first two eps.

[HegemonKhan]

yes, Saya's school teacher is nearly exactly* like Julia in Blood+, I think it's obvious that her "research" was/is of chiropterans and of Saya, as I doubt the "lesbian" scene was just that, no the school teacher "likes" Saya as a specimen to study as a scientist...

*though Blood+ Julia is more... cough cough:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVxXGl-TZKU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNLWOw0RvJs
(6:50-7:30, at ~6:57 Saya stares, and then blushes, lol. 7:20-7:30, at ~7:29, Julia "dammit David, when I help give you an excuse to look at my revealing dress, why can't you look and stare at my cough cough like Saya did"... look at that angry face of Julia's at David, hehe)

http://www.bebo.com/FlashBox.jsp?FlashBoxId=4179040565&
(So, what do you think? About what? LOL)

and Cher in Wolf's Rain is almost the exact same as Julia in Blood+ as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40PSZIW_95Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV05av79hWo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVYl1...eature=related

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also, while these 3 episodes are quite "dryly simplistic", the narration about "nature vs nurture", to me suggests that this is going to get much more deep, complex, sophisticated, and etc at some point, there's a lot of suspense just waiting to be unleashed upon us, and thus giving it a great story/plot. But, right now we're just in the "warm up" phase, before the big plot and actual story smacks us in suddenness. I'm hopeful anyways, being biasedly optimistic still... (the "Saya Saga" has my next most interest after Claymore, I really love it, thanks to Blood+, hehe)

(If anyone wants to discuss Blood+, I'd love to, as I love it, though it's been so long I've sadly forgotten most of the details now, sighs)

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does anyone know what this 8 tetragram stuff is, are these like 8 challenges of chiropterans + chiropteran mutants Saya is for some reason having to fight, like some sort of weird trial for her? As I'm not famiilar with any literature about this, as I'm sure this is probably found in other stories too.

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Blood C Saya also has a similar dark side as seen in Blood+, when she's fighting too.

Blood C Saya's eyes glow more redish, and she completely pwns her opponent far beyond her normal combat prowess. The "Berserker~Ruthless Saya" of Blood+ "comes out", hehe

(though Blood+ Saya never just watches/lets a human be killed... this Blood C Saya is less human than Blood+ Saya, despite her comical acting... of a clueless clumsy school girl)

[destiny4ever]

I think it's obvious that her "research" was/is of chiropterans and of Saya, as I doubt the "lesbian" scene was just that, no the school teacher "likes" Saya as a specimen to study as a scientist...

Good observation, Hege! .

also, while these 3 episodes are quite "dryly simplistic", the narration about "nature vs nurture", to me suggests that this is going to get much more deep, complex, sophisticated, and etc at some point, there's a lot of suspense just waiting to be unleashed upon us, and thus giving it a great story/plot. But, right now we're just in the "warm up" phase, before the big plot and actual story smacks us in suddenness.

I really hope you are right, because ….tbh…I don’t want for each episode to consist of Saya’s HS life and then of Saya killing the weekly monster.

I'm hopeful anyways, being biasedly optimistic still... (the "Saya Saga" has my next most interest after Claymore, I really love it, thanks to Blood+, hehe)

Blood + was amazing!! And watching Blood C makes me miss it. While I still have hope of Blood C turning into a great series, I really doubt it can surpass the awesomeness that is Blood Plus.

does anyone know what this 8 tetragram stuff is, are these like 8 challenges of chiropterans + chiropteran mutants Saya is for some reason having to fight, like some sort of weird trial for her? As I'm not famiilar with any literature about this, as I'm sure this is probably found in other stories too.

The 8…what? Is this from Blood + or from Blood C?