Weak Points In FT

[ErosVp]

Not just the art, Ft is a pretty nice and satisfying manga... It is frustating that it could be much better, the beggining of this arc it was going so epic that i was rating it my second favorite manga. But now it is another fun manga to read, compared to Bleach (another manga i read) FT still wins by a large margin...

[MechR]

The point is your on the edge of whats the original ment target group. That means its not really written for you and those above your age. You always have to keep that in mind when reading shonen. As far as anything being wrong with FT? You serious? This story is a hit in Japan and abroad. It has its own anime which got extended already. Apart from that volume sales are doing great as well as merchandise. So far you nor anyone here saying Mashima is lame or doesnt do this or that right is throwing a fit over nothing. Just because your wishes arn't met?

I hate to be "that guy", but frankly One Piece sells alot more while targeted at the same demographic, because it has better writing. (It sure ain't for the art.) It's a huge mistake to assume young readers are all morons who'll let anything slide.

[Rarhyx]

Ft is a pretty nice and satisfying manga...

not more, atleast for me not.

I mean natsu got more then 2 times pwnd in this arc and he should really defeat hades now?
an no go.
laxus coming out of nowhere, (well I don't mind but should be better if he wouldn't show up in this arc, maybe in the next arc as "revenge" for the old man)
zeref getting beaten by ultear, then WTFINSTANTPWNOUTOFNOWHERE zancrow
cana being gildarts daughter
grey beating ultear
ultear being a wannabe medusa(hi @ soul eater)


people were complaing about last arc being shitty... the last arc was epic compared to this one

everything IMO

[MechR]

people were complaing about last arc being shitty... the last arc was epic compared to this one

The last arc was a total mess through-and-through. This arc at least started awesome, which is why it's more disappointing.

[exacta]

I actually liked the last arc alot, though the Oracion Seis arc was absolutely god awful, and the Star Festival Arc was awesome until Mashima decided to kill it with Mystogan being another Sieghart clone and from there it went straight to hell.

I'm surprised people like Rave better than FT. I hated Rave. I read it a few years ago because way back when I was a kid I watched the anime on TV and it got canceled, so I wanted to read the rest of it because I was looking for something to read, and it had pretty much all of the problems Fairy Tail has, although I thought it was to a greater extent. Alot of the main characters almost never won without some kind of nakama powerup, and there was way too much crying, and Mashima treated his antagonists like crap in Rave also. Sieghart was a total badass though.

But thats why I dislike Gerard/Mystogan/Siegrein so much, their design is completely based off Sieghart, infact Siegrein even wore basically the same outfit and had almost the same name. And they will never be as interesting as Sieghart because this is a different manga, not to mention its just weird watching a character that looks exactly like Sieghart walk around acting like a villain. I actually feel that Mashima has improved since he finished Rave lol.

[ErosVp]

Rave was really lame! Ft is definitely much better, Mashima improved a lot. Rave seemed like was just writing without having planned anything. I remenber when the Gales died, it seemed over. The author was just inventing plots as the histoy was going on... FT have independents arcs but we can see a major picture of the history...

[MechR]

I actually liked the last arc alot, though the Oracion Seis arc was absolutely god awful, and the Star Festival Arc was awesome until Mashima decided to kill it with Mystogan being another Sieghart clone and from there it went straight to hell.

Huh. I thought the Nirvana arc was mostly good with some bad parts, whereas Edoras was mostly bad with some good parts. Edoras managed to make Nirvana look well-planned, even with the disappearing-legs thing.

I didn't much like Fantasia while reading it (probably because it was the first arc I had to follow week-to-week instead of marathoning), but in retrospect it wasn't bad... until the very end, with that departure scene.

I actually did not mind Mistgun's face at all. Thought it was a good surprise at the time. But bringing back the real Gerard TOO was a bit much. And then Edoras wrote Mistgun out of the story after hardly using him. That was a waste.

[evolwizard4]

I hate the latest arc too. Natsu getting to many power ups in a short time. Though I like the humor during the fights. The story got worse when Natsu tried to create fire lighting. Unless it was a ST.Elmo's Fire.

[Quantized]

To all the complainers out there ( I'm one of you as well).
What is your reason to continue reading FT?
Despite my complaints, I still like it coz of the art. Of all the manga I've seen, Mashima's art is my favorite. It's cool. And I like some of the characters he creates, the others are just ok. At first, I did like Natsu but he's getting really corny. Another reason is, I like the magic powers. Mashima is really good at creating supernatural powers. It could match Naruto. What do you think? Plus, I've already used time in FT. Thinking some stuffs that could happen here and there. I won't just drop it. I even collected pics of it.

While I absolute HATE how easy going the series is, how the good guys always win, how Natsu always does the same over and over... The world, the character personalities and what not, still interest's me.. So it would be a shame to stop reading, even if I got big dislikes, and who knows, maybe the manga will change.. it sometimes happends

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Huh. I thought the Nirvana arc was mostly good with some bad parts, whereas Edoras was mostly bad with some good parts. Edoras managed to make Nirvana look well-planned, even with the disappearing-legs thing.

I didn't much like Fantasia while reading it (probably because it was the first arc I had to follow week-to-week instead of marathoning), but in retrospect it wasn't bad... until the very end, with that departure scene.

I actually did not mind Mistgun's face at all. Thought it was a good surprise at the time. But bringing back the real Gerard TOO was a bit much. And then Edoras wrote Mistgun out of the story after hardly using him. That was a waste.

Agreed, it's as if the mangaka got a "fetish" for this Gerard character... Why the overuse..?
Certainly if Mistgun had not looked like Gerard, Gerard's true return would not have been so harmful and annoying..

I don't know, I had hoped for more.. Fairy Tale seems as limited as a Fairy Tail is.. :/

[lgstarn]

I don't want to flame here, but let's be honest, FT is just a semi-ecchi big-breast delivery system with a little bit of story and magic around it. There is little to no character development beyond a new power-up. Nothing is learned, nothing really changes. There is no suspense to the stilted, formulaic fights. The plot is just one deus ex machina after another about places and characters it is becoming increasingly difficult to care about. In short, FT as of late has very little redeeming value (beyond the fact that is a still a semi-ecchi big-breast delivery system with a little bit of story and magic around it).

[exacta]

While I absolute HATE how easy going the series is, how the good guys always win, how Natsu always does the same over and over... The world, the character personalities and what not, still interest's me.. So it would be a shame to stop reading, even if I got big dislikes, and who knows, maybe the manga will change.. it sometimes happends

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Agreed, it's as if the mangaka got a "fetish" for this Gerard character... Why the overuse..?
Certainly if Mistgun had not looked like Gerard, Gerard's true return would not have been so harmful and annoying..

I don't know, I had hoped for more.. Fairy Tale seems as limited as a Fairy Tail is.. :/

It's because Mashima's favorite character from Rave was Sieghart who looks EXACTLY like Siegrein, Gerard and Mistgun. In fact, Siegrein even wears the same clothes. Yup. Mashima loves Sieghart so much he made 3 clones of him in Fairy Tail......hands down his worst idea.

[tobeulp]

I think Mashima loves Sieghart very much that he created Fairy Tail manga focusing on Mages ^^..

[Atobe the king]

@Exacta, if the negative comments were a recent thing its w/e but at some point it became something that happened every chapter. This has been a long arc, and people have been negative about 3/4ths of it. When something loses my interest i stay away from it and its fandom and periodically check in to see if its going in a direction I'm interested in, i don't set myself up for a torture fest.

The hero being beaten to grow is just as cliche as the unstoppable hero, and in my opinion far more annoying. And they didn't "win" they should have died several times Laxus inadvernantly bought the cats time, and the cats saved the day. Natsu and Co just beat a crippled old man with their full power. Hades was pretty cliche himself...idk what makes him a fabulous villain.

[exacta]

@Exacta, if the negative comments were a recent thing its w/e but at some point it became something that happened every chapter. This has been a long arc, and people have been negative about 3/4ths of it. When something loses my interest i stay away from it and its fandom and periodically check in to see if its going in a direction I'm interested in, i don't set myself up for a torture fest.

The hero being beaten to grow is just as cliche as the unstoppable hero, and in my opinion far more annoying. And they didn't "win" they should have died several times Laxus inadvernantly bought the cats time, and the cats saved the day. Natsu and Co just beat a crippled old man with their full power. Hades was pretty cliche himself...idk what makes him a fabulous villain.

It's really hard to drop a manga when you'v been following it for 200 chapters+. This arc only became consistently disappointing when Azuma lost. Before that, there were ups and there were downs.The Zancrow fight sucked, but after that Azuma fought Mirajane and Rustyrose fought Evergreen and Elfman. Those were satisfying, and FT was losing. Mashima killed the whole fight with Capricorn in one chapter. The fight with Kain Hikaru was ehhh.

He had cool magic and he was amusing, but he ended up being fodder. The whole Cana thing was dumb since her character was being extremely selfish, and the Gildartz being her father twist reminded me of a cheesy soap opera. I liked the fight with Meredy and Erza.Then after that, Erza pulled a win out of her ass against Azuma, Rustyrose went down very quickly and we got cheated out of an epic fight between Gildartz and Bluenote. Since then, everything has been consistently disappointing, IMO, and some of the things that people were looking forward to the most ended up being huge, HUGE letdowns.

Hades was the first villain in this series to directly show interest in Zeref. Not to mention Yomazu and Kawazu made Grimoire Heart look badass, and after Hades trashed Makarov, it really looked like FT was going to finally suffer a defeat, which is long overdue. Not to mention he was Fairy Tail's second leader, a really nice plot twist which added alot of mystery to his character. He also seemed very, VERY confident, and seeing as he was fighting against a guild he used to run and made the strongest member look like fodder(which had a big impact seeing as how Makarov trashed Jose and surprised us), it didn't exactly feel misplaced. FT's spoiled, lets be honest. Plus, its much more interesting to watch the good guys stop the bad guys when their plan succeeds then watching them stop the bag guys from completing their plan.

This series needs long-term villains. Mashima is constantly introducing new villains and because of that they don't get much time to be developed or become very interesting. So when Mashima finally does create interesting villains, its that much more frustrating when they end up getting the same treatment.

Either the hero wins, or he loses. Neither can be a "cliche". But Mashima using cheesy speeches to enable Natsu to win everytime gets old very fast, its corny, and it just downright doesn't make sense.It's not whether they win or lose, its how its executed. Natsu is too cocky. He needs to get his ass kicked so he can grow and mature.The fact that alot of the main characters haven't changed in over 200 chapters is kinda disappointing.

[BlackHair]

I called him fabulous 'coz he beat Mac with zero problems. No previous villain could have archived that. Furthermore his ties with the darkness and his knowledge, he had way more potential that this chapter.

A mainstream shounen is always about cliches, but even among cliches a change is needed, to avoid a repetitive pattern. The nakama power-up's are killing the fights and the manga for me. My main problem with Hades defeat was last weeks heroes comeback (twisting Gildartz words to fit into the story) and the rushed introduction & destruction of his "heart".

Many complainer have been with FT for a long time and have trouble letting go of it. I still remember reading the first few chapters back then as it was new. I dropped it at first but started later at ch.1xx. So Im not entirely from the beginning with FT, but I have been around the start. Thus I'm rly attached with FT. However this arc was a let-down in many points. And the only reason I read 'till now was to see some hope. But it was shattered. It's just the end of this thread for me.